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MacUser
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Olathe, KS, USA
Jul 1999
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Woo Hoo! Cool pics!

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Kumiorava
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quote:

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui on 12-26-2000 09:53 PM
Why don't we give the benefit of the doubt to Sid and assume there will be customization PLUS in the game?


Hmm, your probably right. Firaxis is yet to turn out a bad game.

DarkCloud
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Jul 2000
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We've developed a brand new graphics engine that will bring the Civ world alive like never before and we continue to work on an interface that will make Civ III the most intuitive to play in the series.

The above is by Sid Meier.

-Yes, I know that Sid is the gaming god, but I do not quite trust this; they are making a new interface- Civ II's was fine. and new graphics- I have already voiced my opinions about this.

The new interface, It would be nice of Sid to give us a alpha copy screenshot of it for us to comment on.

hHydro
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Nov 2000
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I dont know about that!! Look at how many people are getting all worked up about about 3 unit concept drawings!! Imagine how many people will end up overreacting if they see an alpha concept drawing of the interface.
Kumiorava
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Originally posted by hHydro on 12-28-2000 07:01 PM
I dont know about that!! Look at how many people are getting all worked up about about 3 unit concept drawings!! Imagine how many people will end up overreacting if they see an alpha concept drawing of the interface.

LOL!

supremus
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Feb 2000
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Very promising at a first glance! Go ahead Firaxis!
Depp
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SMACX was pretty bad, the playbalancing was really poor. But it wasn´t a game really, so they are still safe
My Wife Hates CIV
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yeah well fancy graphics do not a great game make.

how many titles are collecting dust at my house because the game was destroyed due to fancy graphics. to hell with game play as long as that unit looks good.

CTP and TOT are very poor games (the graphics killed both of them IMHO).

we'll see...

Chaos Warrior
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Arcanus
Mar 2000
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the rifleman looks gay. he's dressed like an aristocrat, soldiers are dirty and dusty

the tank looks like a humanitarian aid convoy

the phalanx' shield is covered with a silly face, I hate it

the units themselves look OK, but the details, the details

and then, won't we get a unit model as in SMAC? I HATE static unit models, me want SMAC model

Deathwalker
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Great Britain
Mar 2000
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I like the units, but the rifleman looks like a musketeer?

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Vrank Prins
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Sep 2000
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I hope the looks of these units will stay as good in smaller 3d-versions as they look here in 2d.

I agree with the comment on the rifleman. I bet he looks like Mel Gibson (in the movie "the Patriot") when he turns his head. The hat somehow looks too 18th-century alike. Here's an idea I got when reading the beginning of the thread were someone spoke about colonial troops. Maybe it's possible to make a difference between "home"- and "expeditionary"-troops, resp. in a kind of "union"like uniform, and I would like the "redcoat with whitehelmet" uniform.

Panzer (in dutch "pantser", though everybody here uses the word tank for a tank) means first and foremost (in dutch too) armour. In german the word panzer has become synonymous for (english)tank. The "official" designation for tank in german was/is Panzerkampfwagen ("armoured battlecar"), a lot of other armoured vehicles were given such functional names too, but they were never refered to as "panzer".

And I too don't like the ambulancelook of the tank.

And best wishes to everybody outhere for the new year
[This message has been edited by Vrank Prins (edited January 04, 2001).]

The Mad Viking
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Feb 2000
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What a lot of over-reaction!

Take 3 ordinary pieces of art, add the words "Civilization III" and presto- hysteria!

Just to drive the point home, those pics could be in play, as long you don't mind displaying only a 10 by 6 tile portion of your map!

(The picture part of the phalanx is 65 pixels wide x 125 high, and the tank is 105 wide b 85 high.)

ContradictioN
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Nov 1999
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yah, but they are all polygons, they can be resized down easily.

like in ctp

Darkknight
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Ireland
Nov 2000
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Ug a ooga ook uk wogga blag zoog!!!!!

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Darkknight
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-Why can't they draw proper swastikas and not red crosses?

-Why is the phalanx wairing pyjamas and why is that face on his shield sticking his tongue out at me?

-Why has the Rifleman got frilly bits blocking his sight?

Vrank Prins
Chieftain
Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000
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quote:

Originally posted by Darkknight on 01-03-2001 10:53 PM Why can't they draw proper swastikas and not red crosses??

Why not the red, white, blue and orange circle ??
Why not the red star of the red army, the thing looks pretty much like a t-34 tank.
But certainly not swastikas, that's too much honour for those dammed nazi's (and it isn't historically correct either !!, german tanks had white/black crosses on them).
It'd better be something neutral, but not with red crosses, that gives a strange association for a tank.

supremus
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Feb 2000
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Originally posted by The Mad Viking on 01-03-2001 05:47 PM
What a lot of over-reaction!

Take 3 ordinary pieces of art, add the words "Civilization III" and presto- hysteria!


Yes. That's incredible ! BTW August is still the launching date ?

Chaos Warrior
King
Arcanus
Mar 2000
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Originally posted by Darkknight on 01-03-2001 10:41 PM
Ug a ooga ook uk wogga blag zoog!!!!!

hmm... that reminds me of an ICQ message I once received from Provost Harrison:

ogga ogga ogg ogg

:lol

Chaos Warrior
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Arcanus
Mar 2000
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quote:

Originally posted by Darkknight on 01-03-2001 10:41 PM
Ug a ooga ook uk wogga blag zoog!!!!!

hmm... that reminds me of an ICQ message I once received from Provost Harrison:

ogga ogga ogg ogg

:lol

airdrik
Warlord
Boise, ID, USA
Oct 2000
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I definetally agree that they should take the rifle out of that man's hands, give him a musket and call him a musketeer. I have no comment on the phalanx, and the tank needs to have the red cross removed (though not necessarily replaced by another insignia because then we would be favoring whoever used that insignia).

But we need to remember that these are only concept drawings and for a concept drawing I think they look pretty good.

John Thornburgh
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Jan 2001
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I don't want to be negative because I loved Civ 1 and 2 and am really looking forward to Civ 3. But I don't much care for the Civ 3 units they've released so far. As far as pretty animated units go, I don't think they are nearly as attractive as, say, Age of Kings. But even more importantly, if they go this route, it will be impossible for any but experts to modify them.

Being able to change the units in Civ2 using a simple paint program was brilliant. I'm not an artist, but even I have spent hours tweaking my units -- downloading new ones from the hundreds available online, and modifying them. This is one reason why Civ 2 is still thriving, 5 years after release (what other game has been played so much so long?). It won't be possible for me (and many others) to do this in 3D, and certainly I can't begin to create animations.

Anyway, maybe I'm swimming against the tide, but I'd be perfectly happy if Civ 3 used Civ 2 graphics, and just deepened the AI, diplomacy, and rules. I know that's not the road they're taking, but I'd love to see a 2D option at least.

The diplomat
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muncie,IN USA
Sep 1999
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I was watching the different unit animations. Does this mean that there will be a battle screen since there is an animation for running, attacking and a victory and death? Or are these animations for the main map?

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