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Topic: POLL 21: Windowed mode? |  |
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vgriph
Warlord
Norrköping, Sweden
Apr 2001
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posted May 06, 2001 15:47
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Originally posted by Kc7mxo on 05-06-2001 03:11 PM
I dont see why anyone would have a problem quiting when they're done playing civ.
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If you are done with it you may quit. This is correct, but if you are waiting for your turn in a multiplayer game you can not just turn off the game. And minimizing it would mean that you might miss your turn. No windowed it shall be!
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Darkknight
Warlord
Ireland,Galway,Athenry
Nov 2000
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posted May 06, 2001 18:51
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I'm confused you can still Alt-tab out of CTP2 whats the problem? it doesn't matter whether it's windowed or not??
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Ralf
Prince
Sweden
Mar 2000
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posted May 07, 2001 14:50
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Originally posted by Darkknight on 05-06-2001 06:51 PM
I'm confused you can still Alt-tab out of CTP2 whats the problem? it doesn't matter whether it's windowed or not??
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Well, I once promoted "windowed Civ-3" with added hooks for game-interface skins: Is Civ-3 game-interface with SKINS a good idea? |
eNo
Settler
Canada
Dec 2000
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posted May 07, 2001 16:05
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Darkknight and others who don't understand why ALT-Tab'ing a fullscreen program is bad:ALT-Tab'ing tends to result in one or several of the following:
1) Crashes the program
2) Crashes the computer
3) The computer starts going really really slow
4) Hard drive starts to "thrash"
5) Colours get screwed up (inverted?)
6) Mouse pointer/keyboard is not "captured" by appropriate program I think I'm missing a couple but what I've mentioned can happen whether your getting out of your fullscreen program or getting back in. For people running ICQ or hiding the game behind homework when parents walk in, fullscreen mode is just a pain in the [BLANK].
[This message has been edited by eNo (edited May 07, 2001).] |
Roman
Prince
Bratislava, Slovakia
Sep 2000
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posted May 07, 2001 16:11
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Originally posted by eNo on 05-07-2001 04:05 PM
ALT-Tab'ing that tends to result in one or several of the following:
1) Crashes the program
2) Crashes the computer
3) The computer starts going really really slow
4) Hard drive starts to "thrash"
5) Colours get screwed up (inverted?)
6) Mouse pointer/keyboard is not "captured" by appropriate program
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I completely agree with this list. All of those happened to me at some point. |
vgriph
Warlord
Norrköping, Sweden
Apr 2001
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posted May 07, 2001 16:16
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Originally posted by eNo on 05-07-2001 04:05 PM
I think I'm missing a couple but what I've mentioned can happen whether your getting out of your fullscreen program or getting back in.
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It may also frees the game that you leave until you are back and in MP that may result in crashing 6 other computers also. quote:
For people running ICQ or hiding the game behind homework when parents walk in, fullscreen mode is just a pain in the [BLANK].
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You want F5 back as Boss key, do you? 
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Jarouik
Settler
Helsinki, Finland
Dec 2000
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posted May 08, 2001 02:58
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I agree with the above posters that a full-screen mode is less than desirable. Although, if Civ III programmers implement it correctly, it should under no circumstances crash the game or computer, and I think that even thrashing the hard drive is due to the game taking up so much memory that the swap file has to be used when switching to other programs, so this is not a feature of full-screen per se, there are other negative aspects about it in comparison with windowed mode. Many of them I pointed out in my earlier post in another thread, which read thus:I, for one, rarely or never play multiplayer Civilization, but would definitely want to have Civ 3 in a window anyway. All those countless hours of single player Civ 2 were partly made possible for me by the fact that the game is easily available and can be left on all the time while I surf the net, read email, use ICQ, listen to music and whatever else I might be doing - if the game e.g. changes system-wide video settings in any way, like SMAC, it would render other programs so ugly as to be unusable. If you can't have it in a window, it had better be full-screen so that it is easily minimized and maximized and alt-tabbed out of and into like most games without affecting any other programs, not the way SMAC does it changing the whole system to 256 colors. A window, however, is the best option, since I have two displays and I love nothing more than being able to have any other programs open on my secondary display and clicking and using them any way I like while Civilization is still visible and open on my primary display - if you alt-tab out of a full-screen game, it will no longer be visible at all! And yes, I like the fact in Civ II that I can cover the window with an Outlook Express window at work whenever somebody comes into my room 
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markusf
King
Oct 1999
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posted May 08, 2001 16:35
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Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS "Yes I just love windows."well looks like we have a supporter  Hopefully it gets implimented now... |
Ralf
Prince
Sweden
Mar 2000
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posted May 08, 2001 16:55
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by markusf on 05-08-2001 04:35 PM
Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS "Yes I just love windows."-------------------- Edited: The guy who voted wasnt Jeffrey Morris at all. He voted under false name.
[This message has been edited by Ralf (edited May 12, 2001).] |
Darkknight
Warlord
Ireland,Galway,Athenry
Nov 2000
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posted May 11, 2001 20:20
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Yeah it happens in a lot of games but some games like CTP2 never did a thing if I alt-tabbed them they were fine. B+W goes a bit weird when you alt-tab the cursor turns into a square of various colours.
I would rather have it windowed but if they make sure that alt-tabbing doesn't cause any problems it's not too bad if they have it un-windowed.
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meriadoc
Chieftain
Dec 1999
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posted May 11, 2001 21:22
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I've played Civ2 and CTP enough that I too feel that Civ3 should be able to be run in a window instead of full screen. The major reason is simply that most of us like to run other programs at the same time as Civ3. I may not ever play a multiplayer game, but I do like to run AOLIM in the background or watch TV via my TV tuner card. Both of those pretty much require that Civ3 be in a window of its own. So therefore, I am casting my vote for a window.------------------
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Paul
Emperor
Zwolle, The Netherlands
Mar 99
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posted May 12, 2001 06:18
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Do we have a fake Jeffrey Morris here? I just accidentally had my cursor over his name in the comments and noticed that the link to his profile didn't have a plus sign between Jeffrey and Morris like with other people who have multi-part names. So I clicked the link and this person is a settler with zero posts. It looks like we have an imposter here. |
vgriph
Warlord
Norrköping, Sweden
Apr 2001
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posted May 12, 2001 18:01
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Originally posted by Paul on 05-12-2001 06:18 AM
Do we have a fake Jeffrey Morris here? I just accidentally had my cursor over his name in the comments and noticed that the link to his profile didn't have a plus sign between Jeffrey and Morris like with other people who have multi-part names. So I clicked the link and this person is a settler with zero posts. It looks like we have an imposter here.
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Damned imposter  , using hard blankspaces (#160) in the name, I really hoped for Windows after his vote. I hope that MarkG will ban him. |
Darkknight
Warlord
Ireland,Galway,Athenry
Nov 2000
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posted May 12, 2001 22:20
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I just got Airfield inc. It has an option for windowed or fullscreen at the start maybe they could do something like that??Shane |
Darkknight
Warlord
Ireland,Galway,Athenry
Nov 2000
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posted May 12, 2001 22:31
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JESUS he is fake when I clicked on his profile I came up with netckc's which is:Date Registered: May 08, 2001
Status: Settler
Total Posts: 0
Current Email: Not available.
Homepage:
Occupation: Student
Location: Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
Interests: PC Gaming
ICQ Number: 36339491
Private Messages: Send netckc a Private Message BAN HIM!!!!! He really thought noone would notice 
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JosefGiven
Warlord
Okehampton,Devon,UK
Jan 2001
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posted May 13, 2001 11:14
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...Damned imposter , using hard blankspaces (#160) in the name, I really hoped for Windows after his vote. I hope that MarkG will ban him......JESUS he is fake when I clicked on his profile I came up with netckc's...
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Oh, this really is appaling! Who could betray us in such a way? I demand the culprit be banned with maximum ritual disgrace. Whoever you are, never darken these forums again!! Shame on you!!
[This message has been edited by JosefGiven (edited May 13, 2001).] |
Ming
Deity
ACS CivII/OTF Moderator
b.02-15-99
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posted May 14, 2001 08:42
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There is a reason why Jeffrey Morris's profile shows 0 posts... The "fake" log on was caught quickly and disabled  ------------------
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