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Grumbold
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Mar 2000
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Originally posted by cyclotron7 on 02-16-2001 12:45 AM
Does anyone else actually understand this? Myself, I haven't the foggiest notion of what this means. So... does this mean I can choose to have paratroopers require only iron working? I can make a phalanx x2 vs. air units? Does all this go for your scenario builder, or the game itself? How could you possibly hope to balance any of this if its all up to the whims of the players? Does anybody out there get this post, and if they do, could they enlighten me!?!?

I think its like any other product. They provide it as fit for its intended use. If you then do the equivalent of add a dozen chrome wing mirrors and put bicycle wheels on your car, then its not their fault when it doesn't corner properly and gets you laughed at! They balance the vanilla game, produce an AI that does its best to win under all circumstances and some documentation on the customisation tools. You are responsible for making sure you don't make any mistakes with your customisation. If you produce a valid unit that the AI does not understand how to handle properly, they have a problem. If you produce a unit that just unbalances gameplay its your fault.

Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
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Mar 2000
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Originally posted by cyclotron7 on 02-16-2001 12:45 AM
DanM: "You will absolutely be able to create your own units. You will have the flexibility to do practically anything you want with them: you can give them whatever tech prereqs you want, name them whatever you want, fiddle with their abilities, and *lots* more.

Does anyone else actually understand this? Myself, I haven't the foggiest notion of what this means. So... does this mean I can choose to have paratroopers require only iron working? I can make a phalanx x2 vs. air units? Does all this go for your scenario builder, or the game itself? How could you possibly hope to balance any of this if its all up to the whims of the players? Does anybody out there get this post, and if they do, could they enlighten me!?!?



There will be tools to let you tweak the units, from simple skill adjustments to graphical representation. These tools can be used to create a full-blown scenario, or they can be used to just tweak the game to your liking.

Dan
Firaxis Games, Inc.

Roman
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Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS on 02-16-2001 10:26 AM

There will be tools to let you tweak the units, from simple skill adjustments to graphical representation. These tools can be used to create a full-blown scenario, or they can be used to just tweak the game to your liking.

Dan
Firaxis Games, Inc.

Thank you Dan, this is exactly what most of us understood from your previous posts.

Roman
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PS.
When can we expect a site update?
cyclotron7
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Jan 2001
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Originally posted by Roman on 02-16-2001 10:59 AM
Thank you Dan, this is exactly what most of us understood from your previous posts.

Ecchh... "most of us"... this post is so devoid of detail I still don't know anything more about Civ3... Is this because you haven't made any of this yet, and this is just "some thinkin'", or is this a new sales strategy? I for one would like some more concrete details, if at all possible...

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Yog-Sothoth
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Sep 2000
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I think it's detailed enough, give these people a break. I think it's great that Firaxis have this continous dialog with us. We should appreciate this, not just demand more and more.
[This message has been edited by Yog-Sothoth (edited February 16, 2001).]
young newbie forever
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I agree with yog. im gratefull to be heering from them.
by the way when will the site get updated?
Theben
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Originally posted by cyclotron7 on 02-16-2001 08:33 PM
Ecchh... "most of us"... this post is so devoid of detail I still don't know anything more about Civ3...

It would appear that Dan is saying Civ3 will allow players to tweak the game from image files & .txt files, but that it will all be 'out of game'. Like civ2.

He's hinted that there may be something else to tweak with but he hasn't said what it is yet...

GaryGuanine
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Chaos Warrior, what does "basta" mean?

Gary

Theben
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In Italian it means "enough". Not clear if that's what he meant from context though.
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