I'm checking it right now...

THANK YOU FIRAXIS!

The site is great. The units look absolutely SUPERB!! The graphics will be amazing in civ3 if these units animations are any indication.

The site has a few tidbits on combat. It looks extremelly promising. I can't wait to find out about the rest of the game.

It also looks like civ3 will have much more diversity in units. There are a panzer tank and a abram tank, also a F-15 and a MIG unit. This is excellent!

Also, in the community section, you can ask questions about the game.

Now I am going back to the site. see ya later...

I think it would overcomplicate the game and be very un-Sid Meier-like to have multiple versions of the same basic unit (i.e. F-15's/Mig's, Panzers/Abrahms).

Thus, I propose one of three things is going to occur.

1) They're going to ultimately use only one of these graphics for a final version (most likely).

2) The units stats will remain the same statistically (jet fighter/tank), but a different graphic may be used as the civilization becomes more advanced.

3) The unit stats will remain the same statistically, but a different graphic may be used depending on the civilization (tileset) utilizied (i.e. different civs already have different looking cities).

it showed an error when I tried to enter in the first couple times so I sent 3 letteres to the webmaster and then pressed the refresh button and it worked...

quote: Originally posted by Frugal_Gourmet on 01-08-2001 01:59 PM (Pure conjecture) I think it would overcomplicate the game and be very un-Sid Meier-like to have multiple versions of the same basic unit (i.e. F-15's/Mig's, Panzers/Abrahms). Thus, I propose one of three things is going to occur. 3) The unit stats will remain the same statistically, but a different graphic may be used depending on the civilization (tileset) utilizied (i.e. different civs already have different looking cities). [This message has been edited by Frugal_Gourmet (edited January 08, 2001).]

I was thinking the same thing - Assuming that they're not recreating the unit workshop from SMAC, then the idea of having different looks for a given unit based on the civ that built it is sensible.

Did anybody else also catch the part in the FAQ where they say "In Civilization III you'll find ... unique benefits depending on the Civilization you choose ..."

Excellent! The one thing in SMAC I liked even better than the unit workshop was the 'Social Engineering' table, and the different benifits that each faction had. Including this type of feature will no doubt make the Civ's more fun to choose.

Knights in a Western European Civ would be Samurai in an Asian Civ would be something equivalent in a native American Civ, etc....

Just give a little flavor to different civilizations.

Or, they could give each Civ a unique unit/tech. a la Ages of Empires (i.e. Janissaries, Tarkans, Mangudai, Huskarls, Cataphracts, etc.)

quote: Originally posted by Stefu on 01-08-2001 02:51 PM Anyway, Dan, now that you are here, are there religions in Civ3? Cause if there aren't, my work and all work done by contributors to Religion list thread is going to be wasted...

I'm not really sure if there are or not. Of course, even if I *did* know, I probably couldn't comment on that right now =)

I'll see what I can find out.

And both the Mig and the F-15 are capable strike fighters which -- in a game like Civ -- would perform virtually the same role and appeared at the same time in history.

The Panzer/Abrams update makes me think #2 -- that the graphic may evolve as technology evolves. Otherwise, it would be horrendously beareaucratic and boring to develop a whole new slew of tanks 10 turns after your first collection was built.

In later ages though, as the distances between civilizations become smaller, the differences between units need not be so great, (or need not exist at all).

ie: In 18th/19thc, maybe there are different city types and different 'versions' of riflemen for European and American Civs, however by the modern age, the buildings can all look similiar, and the 'fighter plane' units might also be the same.

They seem to be aiming to do the right thing - keep the best of civ1/2 gameplay, selectively add features, especially using SMAC as source, but going at least a bit beyond, and improving graphics (and presumably AI)

Not a Simnation, but not Civ2.5 either.

Oh, and an emphasis on customisability.

quote: Originally posted by eNo on 01-08-2001 04:54 PM The unit animations look good. And it's about the right size for the map too. There's another point for the argument that the shots released earlier were in game graphics. I hope I'll be able to turn off the animations though. I don't want to sit through all the animations of every battle during 3 hour game sessions.

Civ:TOT allows you to turn off animations, which really helps on a slower system - otherwise things start to really creep in late game (on a Pentium II!)
I assume it will still be possible to turn off animations on Civ3.

Now lets hope for update more periodically then the ones that Dinos got

The animation looks nice, a lot like a RTS game. Which means Firaxis is doing the right thing. They realize they must have the graphics to compete with the popular RTS. It looks like this early art will compete.

The Civ III website is Great, the new units are even better, and I like the way there are choices of several tanks.
Goodbye, I going back.

Can't wait to see more of this game.

This is THE strategy game of the year.

Personally, I expect civ3 to be fantastic!

I was a bit lukewarm about the whole civ3 idea, but the website keeps the dream alive, and makes me sit in anticipation of a game that will be even greater than civ2 was.

Question stemming from the FAQ:

quote: The publisher, Hasbro Interactive, makes decisions regarding ports to other platforms. Since this is a major release, you'll most likely see ports to other platforms, but there are no commitments yet. We'll keep you posted.

quote: Who's publishing the game? Hasbro Interactive will publish the game.