quote: Originally posted by markusf on 05-11-2001 10:10 AM Oh come on, i play red alert, i play starcraft etc. most games have different factions with unique units. One guy gets a cool tank another guy an airplane and another guy gets a science bonus etc. Those games wouldn't be so successful if it didn't work

I would have to concur. The reason in my opinion that Firaxis is putting unique civs in the game is because they feel that it is going to add to the multiplayer element.

quote: Originally posted by markusf on 05-11-2001 10:06 AM Oh come on you think the power graph actually means anything? When someone has 3 times the science rate and 2 times the cities of everyone else they are going to win. If i went into WLTKD for 10 turns and totally dominated the pg, what would that prove? Would mean i couldn't drop my luxeries back down to 10% and i couldn't reasearch anything. PG is the most useless way of telling if someone is winning.

I agree about the pg and I know this is a tangent to the thread but I just had a quick look at the last save and you have 24 cities and I have 18 - you tend to exagerate
And, even if you are correct (doubtful), the Science Rate is not a measure in itself. There are the Science bonuses too. Your analysis is so simplistic.... LOL... then there is the military side and alliances
I'm first in pop, production and very advanced with irrigation - can churn out settlers and caravans for rapid expansion and trade...
Gosh, if I got the huge river matrix start you got the game would be over!
Hope we can continue it when agharta is free from study.