When programming civ1 the major concern was the program size (they zipped it in one 1.44mb floppy disk, or was it two?) since hard disk were very small at that time. This 'compact' program could not expand very well, and all statistics had upper limits (city size cannot got beyond 127, etc.).

When civ2 was out they could reprogram everything but they just used the old civ1 codes. Then they just used the civ2 codes when producing Cic, FW, MPE, and TOT.

I have printed out the list and will keep it with my manual. I'd feel rather bad if I discovered one of them myself and used it, not realizing it wasn't intended as legitimate tactics (most are obviously not intended to be done, but some are less certain.

If you take an air unit, and move it onto a hut square, then the hut dissapears. This could be used to 'remove' huts close to one of your enimies cities.

Here are a couple of other "exploits" (good term) that I believe violate the "Spirit of the Game"

1) Continually "harvesting" a barbarian city for "NONE" units (especially when the player deliberately creates conditions for the barbarian capture of one of his cities for this purpose).

2) Just before a caravan sets up a trade route, maxing out the "connected" cities trade production to increase the one-time pay-off, and then resetting the workers afterward.

Do you agree with this opinion?

This is actually described in the manual, as the air unit "frightens" the villagers and they abandon the area. What you describe is more of a tactic than a cheat, IMHO.

"When you start a game as a civ, such as the Americans, and build a few cities. Let's say
Washington and New York. Then quit, then start another game as the Americans, it will try to name your first city Boston, then Philadelphia. Neither of thes are useful, and they don't appear in most games, but they happen."

This won't happen if you quit Civ2 entirely, back to the desktop. If you quit only to the main screen, then you'll encounter this problem. Very annoying.

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Sorry. Never had time to read the whole manual, and I never saw that part .

quote: Originally posted by Xin Yu on 01-30-2000 07:34 PM While more details still need to be tested, one more bug is found and confirmed once. You can use 'w' key to put your airplanes on the air on hold and move other units, then use 'Ctrl-n' to end the current turn. The planes won't crash.

It seems like this same trick can be used to keep your ships from being lost at sea early in the game. If you move your ships just two squares, hit wait, and then do a Ctrl-n to end the turn, they will not sink. The problem with this one is, it would be very difficult to detect in an MP game... sigh.

I did know about some of these cheats but not all of them. I've never had a spaceship successful land before 2010. I've never had a score anywhere near a record. I always played/play against the AI with fast games. The whole game played in 1 or 2 days (like 4 hours total). Than MP came along and I found myself having to play my best game every single freaking stupid turn. Why? Because everyone does the things listed here in this thread. Yes, say what you want but I've played with many here and everyone cheats. I've even used the two PC, peek at maps during play before with... don't make me say who! When people get into a tight spot they will do whatever it takes to win. Thats why we play MP - we like to win. MP is so full of bugs it's not worth it. Could I land a ship before 1900? Could I do OCC? Probably, just never bothered before. I play MP the same way, fast. Those of you who have played MP with me know this. You don't see 'Savages turn' up there very long. Some of you take sooooo long (I'm sure taking advantage of every single little loophole), it's just not fun. It just goes to show what a good start can do for you. Some games I can keep up with the best players (best players... ?? what does that mean?).

The game should check to see if any of these types of activities has occured.

Some of the more obvious and annoying AI cheats:

1) AI Triremes never sink.
2) AI can switch gov'ts with no period of Anarchy.
3) AI Democracies cannot be made to collapse.
4) AI can bribe units with any unit. This is especially annoying in scenarios where diplomacy units are purposefully not included.
5) AI has an unlimited supply of Cruise Missiles when your Battleship or Carrier comes close by.
6) AI knows which cities have SDI without needing to investigate first.
7) AI Bombers don't crash if they don't return to a city at the end of their second turn out.

The below are lesser AI cheats and may legitimately be considered part of the handicap that the AI gets at certain difficulty levels:

But since that job is really done, this now is meant to provide a list for those that play. So thanks for adding your AI cheat list for those that aren't aware of how they can be cheated by the AI during a game...

If you build a city on a single square out in the middle of the ocean as a future airbase/supply center, you could conceivably have a problem. This square would have to have no borders except the ocean. If you put a trireme inside the city, it can be ***lost at sea***. I guess there is ***coast*** around your city, even if your trireme is safely stuck in dock!

I didn't have units in the trireme at the time, so I don't know whether the units were also ***lost at sea*** or whether they just became the garrison.