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fasteddie
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Jun 99
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hehe cheers scooter!!

comon diemar im dying over here!!

Obi Wan Kenobi
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Jul 1999
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Come on Diemar, finish the story!!!!!!
KDan
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Aug 1999
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Yeah, please, I also want to hear the rest of the story!

Daniel

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Sniper
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Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Jul 1999
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What happened to Diemar??? Did he decide not to finish the story?
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Chuckles
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Burnaby, BC, Canada
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I guess he didn't survive.
Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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I've just moved to a city that is closer to The University. And I haven’t gotten my act together yet, this is The First time I 14 days I’ve turned on my computer! AND the term starts in just 3 days. But I will continue this game/story as soon as I find the time.

About The bad language I’m Danish I try to the best of my ability, geez

Thanks for all the interest, The story will continue as soon as things start to flow gently.

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

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hexagonian
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Hey, what's more important here, school, or lives of millions of virtual citizens? Get your priorities straight. (hehe)

We're still with ya!

ghen
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wowee hi diemar! We all knew you were coming back

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Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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Just bumping this to let you guys know, that i have'nt forgotten about this game of mine!
I'll just have to be on top of things here at the university, before i have any time at all.
Hope that i will have time to resume this thread, within the week.

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar


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Emporer
Warlord
West Vancouver, B.C. , Canada
b.02-15-99
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Great Story!!
dagnut
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Bronx,NY,USA
Sep 1999
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Hi Deimar,

I just got here and started reading the story. It's very interesting and I learning lots of new stuff.

Please continue!

Anyone: I'm in the Diamond Age playing at the chieftain level. One of my competitors has been sending "infector" units. How do I get rid of them and cure the infected cities???

ghen
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in cheiftan? just go take all his cities away!
Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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[This message has been edited by Diemar (edited September 28, 1999).]
Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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He He ghen, that's not nice!

For starters, you should make sure that you "can see em comeing"
Place lookouts, units who can see the infector, on strategic locations, on roads and such.

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

PS I'm working hard at being able to get some time to play civ. Will be posting as soon as i can!
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ghen
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lol but its sooo true
Diemar
Chieftain
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Jul 1999
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A undefeated Diety players story

Part four

All-out war

The attack on The Greek capitol of Athens was, despite successful, absolutely disastrous! The Greeks had obvious anticipated The attack, as this was The only city I could attack, not that it came as a surprise, but The amount of looses astounded me. I lost 3+ of my attacking size 9 armies to The Greek army on The walls of Athens. This effectively lead to a halt in my conquest of The Greeks as I dug in on The one tile now separating my nation and The Greeks. The war with The Greeks was reduced temporary to hit and run tactics while The wait for reinforcements to The Greek line initiated. I would dispatch half of The newly constructed units from this point in time to The Greek frontline, thus taking some of The upcoming momentum to The German campaign away, which were about to launch with 5 size 9 armies into The hearth of The German nation. The strategic situation with The Germans was allot better then The one with The Greeks. I was able to avoid The frontline city The Germans had close to my border. I sent more than half of my combined army around this city, penetrating deep into German territory, towards citys further behind, thus drawing defenders form The frontline city, and other citys to intercept these armies in order to prevent them from taking these less defended citys. The scattered German armies were easy prey, as my armies with minimal losses, slaughtered The German armies in The open on grassland. I almost head The spirit of The Germans crack, as The last of their notable armies was sent to rest on The grassland in The heart of their own nation. And with more units streaming continuously into The evermore decreasing German territory, I knew that The German nation soon would be a mere memory in The minds of my still growing German slave-population.


Gearing up yet again

As I discovered The technology of Gunpowder, I would now once again turn my attention towards The Greeks. I had 2 size 9 armies at The Greek border, which was making small advances into Greek territory, but I would wait awhile with a all-out attack, until I could cut their Pikemen down with musketeers.
Off cause I would make sure to be The one that was to build The emancipation act wonder, with all my slaves, that seemed as a very good idea! But that wasn’t worrying me very much, as I was The one, who were building all of The wonders at this time.


More to come...

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

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Diemar
Chieftain
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Jul 1999
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Thanks everybody for your great positive response and for your patience The last month.
I’m afraid that I cant post as often as I used to, because of The amount of work I have in my study of computer-science and English at The University.
But I will be playing and posting when ever I have some spare time!
Of cause I’m able to answer questions to The story more frequently, than I’m able to post The continuation of The story.

Thanks again

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

[This message has been edited by Diemar (edited September 28, 1999).]

ghen
King
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Aug 1999
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We're just glad for what we can get!
keep up the good work
KDan
Chieftain

Aug 1999
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As cool as usual :-)

I have one question though... are you playing with some sort of time-slowing mod...? I'm asking because I never ever have time to build so many units... I mean usually my whole army in the modern age is a few stacks that I casually drop near the ennemy's key cities to blitzkrieg them to death before making peace again for a while. Before modern age I just try to avoid war because I know I won't be able to build that many units :-)

Daniel

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Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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Kdan

ENSLAAAVE!!

War means SLAVES!! Slaves equals production-enhancement!! War is GOOD!!
It‘s because you don’t take every opportunity you get to enslave your enemy (or your friends ), during The time frame in which this is possible (Emancipation act ), that you are experiencing problems with ancient and pre-modern warfare.
If you from 4000bc continuously enslave everything and everybody, keeping 1 slaver with every stack of military-units, even those defending your citys, then your citys will be almost twice The size of your neighbors in no time.
This fact combined with a rational choice of city-sites and The research effort aimed towards boosting production, should provide more than adequate production rates in your citys, within a reasonable time-frame.
THEN GO KICK SOME AI ASS!!

ENSLAAAAAAAAAAVVVE!!!!!

By The way…I NEVER use any mods!

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

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Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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Is there anyone who can enlighten me about how to patch my CTP with patch 1.2, and then being able to continue the save game for this game I’ve got going here?
I haven’t patched yet in fear of The possibility of The save-game not working with The new patch!
Thanks

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

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Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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He He...I've been posting here for 6 month now, and i've just discovered that you can write in HTML and UBB code!!

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

KDan
Chieftain

Aug 1999
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You know what... I decided to slow down my game and did that modification that whoever mentioned to get 10 times as many turns and 1/10 the research speed... and at the same time I found out how to really use slaves...

The really really cool thing is that now I actually got to use all the units. I was very glad when I discovered bronze working so I could have phalanxes along with my warriors to be sure to resist against my neighbour's legions, and have a chance of killing them too, I was extatic when at last (after a couple hundred turns from the start) I discovered domestication and, at last, had a ranged attack unit to be more sure to win - etc.
And all through this I used slavers everywhere, enslaving my dear neighbour's slavers and everyone I beat... and I have to say this bloody rules!
Now I've just built the emancipation act. I've got 3 cities over size 30, who up to now were filled some with up to 21 slaves! I LOVE it. It's so cool having a size 30 city that also keeps growing all the time because the slaves hardly eat anything...
The cool thing is although I misfired on the turns slowdown (2900 BC and built the emancipation act :-P) that doesn't really matter since I got the research slow down right, I think... I just changed the research handicap from 25 to 250 in the DbDiff.txt file... anyone know of a better way?
The thing is, right now I've got a very massive civilization thanks to all the slaving I did (I had roving stacks of samurai+archers+slaver wandering around my nearest competitor's territory, fighting all units they could kill without damage on the spot :-) ), and my research has kind of sped up - ie I can research stuff like Gunpowder etc... in 11 turns. Now I know that's a lot of turns, but as I said that game is slowed down... except that at 11 turns/advance I won't get to use all of the units :-(
Especially when I start having research labs and stuff... I'm not sure it will slow down again when I reach "critical mass" or if my research will keep on growing exponentially...

So... anyone know of a more... constant way of slowing down research? Because this way it was slowed down too much in the beginning, and not enough once I got my cities so over-sized... which is easy when you've got so many turns to slave...

Anyway... Now I can try to use this on a normal game... but I still think that the slowed down game, although obviously very slow and tedious at times, is better than the normal game... More strategy, more buildup...

Daniel

Diemar
Chieftain
Tåstrup, Sjælland, Denmark
Jul 1999
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Kdan

You can do several things to slow down the research rate, even within normal setup parameteres.
One being setting the amount of goods on the map to virtualy none existing.
Another being playing on a very small map, with alot of opponents.
And then you kan play the ulimate game, play with the settings of my game, which i'm writeing a story about, but offcause in this case you would have to cheat a little in order to get 30 players on the map


Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar

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KDan
Chieftain

Aug 1999
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Yeah, I've done that (the no-goods bit) which saved me from having to build the Labyrinth - which I couldn't have built anyway...
But still it's going too fast! Now it only takes me 10 turns to discover things like railroad, and 4 turns for stuff like Machine Tools... That's WAY too fast to have time to enjoy all the units fully...

So are you playing it slowed down (in terms of years/turn) or not??

I did try a game with 30 players a while ago but with the P166 I have over here in Geneva, it kind of gets ridiculously slow...

Daniel

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Diemar
Chieftain
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Jul 1999
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Kdan

Then just play on a smaller map, with as many computer players, that your computer adequately kan support.
This will mean that everone directs more resources towards military, in order to keep what land they have. This, Combined with alomost no goods, should slow things down.

By the way...has everybody lost interest in my game because of my resent absence?

Enslave them all!!
Thomas Diemar


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hexagonian
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Jun 99
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no!
KDan
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no way! keep slavin', man! :-)

Daniel

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Forster
Settler
Columbus, GA
Oct 1999
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Love this story, but what I would like to see as a side bar, would be the details of how you did everything. Set production to ..., built mines, and so forth. I have not been able to win above prince, and I still can't figure out how the computer gets so far ahead of me.
Big Dave
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Apr 99
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Diemar,
Please continue your story, it is well placed here in the strategy forum. Please keep posting the details as you have been, not in a novelized form as some have requested. I like the idea of the sidebar with even more details, too, if you have the time. But please play more and post more as time permits!!

Big Dave

Marcel I
Chieftain
Zaandam
Sep 1999
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Hi Diemar,

Any news of the Spanish front ?
I'm still interested to hear more

Keep up the good work

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ghen
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lol diemar, I've quit playing ctp in the time it takes for you to complete one game
but I'd still love to hear the rest of the story!
pchang65
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Diemar,
Just a few questions...
What year is it now?
What are your city and production levels at?
How far away are you from:
Agricultural Revolution?
Gunpowder?
Cannons?
KDan
Chieftain

Aug 1999
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Yeah, what's up? Did you forget about us story-hungry people? :-)

Or have you given up on this game...?

Daniel

ghen
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do be do be do.... I hit the ctp forums about once a week.. where are you?
ghen
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edit: dp
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playnice
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Nov 1999
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I to got hooked on the story. Please continue.
Dregor
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Washington, DC, USA
Nov 1999
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Yes - this is good stuff. PLease share your story with us all.
Zrf
Settler
France
Sep 1999
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So many days since my last connexion ...

Diemar,
come back please, we need the next part.

KDan,
I have slowed the time of the game :
at the beginning 1 turn = 5 years, so from 4000BC to 0 it takes 800 turns ...

I have also downed the science rate in the govern.txt file : divided by 100 (you have to modify each government ).
The only problem is to save enough gold for science (100 gold = 1 recherch) very hard at the start.

I didn't change the research handicap in the DiffDB.txt (I just learned it so I will experience).

I have found that in advance.txt who can change the cost of each advance, long no ?

Hope that will help you.
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Lord Silvi
Warlord
Düsseldorf, Germany
Nov 1999
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Hi
I like this story. Please continue.
Especially "... growing German slave-population..." is thrilling - I am german.
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