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Topic: I Want Paras |  |
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Lawrence of Arabia
Warlord
San Francisco, CA, USA
Apr 2001
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posted May 20, 2001 13:55
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I want Paratroopers in CivIII, They added a whole new dimension to the game.
- It was more complicated to defend your cities and infrastructure when you if you had a city within 10 spaces, you could drop in a few paras and cut the rail/road link. This would be especially usefull to get the players defend outside their cities. If a para lands on a vital silk road and cuts it, your whole civ could go into disorder.
- You could build para armies and drop the lot somewhere. A horde of paras dropping near one of your interior cities which is not defended can wreak havoc on your civ.
- Increases the amount of different playing styles that exist. (eg. Send in lots of paras and cut all of the roads between the cities, then do an amphibious invasion.
- Paras should be able to do a few 'engineer' type things. They should be able to build a weaker type of fortress (+25%)
Something that firaxis should add is the communication, organization, and tactics to the paras. When you first invent then, dropping them makes them lose 1/2 of their HP because lots of times they were scattered across half the contient, and many times they're parachutes didnt deploy. (see D-Day, and Operation Marketgarden, and the Invasion of Crete) With the invention of Jet Propultion, the paras should then lose 1/4 of their HP. Finally, with the advacne of Combined Tactics, your paras would not lose any HPs. When you first get them, paras should have a range of 10. With the advent of Jet Propulsion, this should be increased to 20.
One more thing. Paras should be resonably strong (lets say 5/5, or 5/4) and shouldnt be too expensive. When in covered terrain, they cannot be subject to bombardment of any sort, and can lie hidden from anything except all types of infantry. Tell me if this unit is too powerful. ------------------
Goooooooooooood Morning Vietnam! |
Stefu
Emperor
Schemperor
b.02-15-99
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posted May 20, 2001 15:39
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Heh, in Finnish language Paras means 'the best', so the title had me wondering a bit  Still, it's important, either way.  |
paiktis22
Prince
Athens Greece
Oct 2000
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posted May 20, 2001 16:58
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In slang greek Paras means money. So I agree 100% with the title «I want Paras» |
Grumbold
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London, UK
Mar 2000
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posted May 20, 2001 17:05
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That is way too powerful. Paratroops drop without heavy support armament and so, while well trained, are weaker than regular forces in a prolonged fight. Crete and Arnhem are good examples of what can happen if the enemy is able to react. They are not invulnerable to artillery either. With civ preferring relatively small unit numbers and units fortified in cities and fortresses any unit that can drop and instantly cut communication lines is likely to be too unbalancing unless they introduce air interception. I hope they do. |
Ralf
Prince
Sweden
Mar 2000
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posted May 20, 2001 17:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia on 05-20-2001 01:55 PM
Tell me if this unit is too powerful.
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If the AI only could really use the para-unit intelligently. Too powerful? Well, a paratrooper should of course be able to take control over a defenceless city within the same turn. But it should NOT be able to land on any improved terrain-tile and pillage it within the same turn. It just have to wait until the next turn. This reflects the vulnerability of dropping ligthly armed soldiers from the sky in enemy territory.
[This message has been edited by Ralf (edited May 20, 2001).] |
Lawrence of Arabia
Warlord
San Francisco, CA, USA
Apr 2001
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posted May 20, 2001 20:01
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i know that Paras means the best in Finnish. Im half Finnish. Also, i agree with you Grumbold. ------------------
Goooooooooooood Morning Vietnam! |
AzNtoccata
Chieftain
Jan 2001
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posted May 20, 2001 22:26
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GOod idea. I think they should be available earlier 2 if this idea is applied. |
joseph1944
Warlord
Napa, Ca. USA
Jul 2000
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posted May 21, 2001 00:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia on 05-20-2001 01:55 PM
I want Paratroopers in CivIII, They added a whole new dimension to the game.
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I'm not sure if Firaxis has stated which unite from Civ 2 will be deleated.
However they did say that most units from Civ 2 are still in the game. So unless they tell us that Paratropper are gone don't worrie about them. ------------------
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