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Theben
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SCREW Elvis; we need a REAL entertainer!

Someone like Johnny Rotten or Siouxsie Sioux (in their youth)!

No old bloated drunks! Punk rock! Punk rock!

Wild in the streets!

paiktis22
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YOU PUNK!!!!

THE KING IS ONE AND THAT IS ELVIS.

AND ELVIS MUST BE IN CIV 3

I like punk a lot I've been to 3 ramones concerts here in Athens but what can possibly replace: «we're rocking Majesty»

[This message has been edited by paiktis22 (edited May 15, 2001).]

Grumbold
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I don't mind the occasional Elvis but not as advisor from 4000BC+ and every single entertainer head. Please NOOOO!
paiktis22
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Originally posted by Grumbold on 05-15-2001 05:07 PM
I don't mind the occasional Elvis but not as advisor from 4000BC+ and every single entertainer head. Please NOOOO!

What do you mean. It's not like he doesn't change outfits

SerapisIV
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THE ONCE AND FUTURE KING.....ELVIS !!
SerapisIV
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Civ without Elvis is like Vegas without...showgirls and Wayne Newton (oh yeah and those impersonator guys)
SerapisIV
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Is it just me or is this topic a flame war (light-hearted though) waiting to happen? Didn't we all learn something from the "Let's be civil" thread?
paiktis22
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quote:

Originally posted by SerapisIV on 05-15-2001 05:29 PM
Is it just me or is this topic a flame war (light-hearted though) waiting to happen? Didn't we all learn something from the "Let's be civil" thread?

Oh, I didn't bother to read it. I just saw the KING MUST BE IN line in the end

So flame away

I'm joking. I read it. And I agree that these forums are very civil.

But, coming back to the topic, ELVIS MUST BE IN


[This message has been edited by paiktis22 (edited May 15, 2001).]

SerapisIV
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My comments was loaded with sarcasm, as if I really expect people to get into it over Elvis, come on. It should just be expected that The King is universally loved and would unquestionably be placed in Civ3, its not like Activision is making the game (okay sorry for even bringing up that other company) Back to refuting this thread's title...Elvis IS alive and will return to Civ3. Nough said.
Chronus
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"It should just be expected that The King is universally loved "

BAH!

Throw the bum out.

If you want real entertainers then throw in Al Gore and George Bush.

ancient
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they cant ever replace Elvis.. nuff said..
SerapisIV
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Originally posted by Chronus on 05-15-2001 08:41 PM
"It should just be expected that The King is universally loved "

BAH!

Throw the bum out.

If you want real entertainers then throw in Al Gore and George Bush.

Heresy !!!

Gore and Bush are clowns or buffoons, not the multi-talented movie star/actor/collectors-plate combo that is The King. You never know, he might right now be reading this post. Elvis the Apolytoner, maybe he even works for Firaxis or a KFC in Georgia, you decide which

paiktis22
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Originally posted by SerapisIV on 05-15-2001 09:38 PMElvis the Apolytoner

LOL

joseph1944
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Elvis did not sing Punk period.

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Theben
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Hey, you haven't lived until you've heard Jello Biafra's version of "Viva Las Vegas". Puts that wailing has-been Elvis in his place.

Just say No! To Elvis!

Go punkers!

Mister Pleasant
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Agreed. Let's get Milo Aukerman (complete with hood), Henry Rollins, or Robert Smith.

Screw Elvis - the man's dead and his music wasn't all that great anyway.

Adm.Naismith
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Ok, I see you are hopeless in love for Elvis
I don't think Elvis is so entertaining, but really don't care about this minor aspect. Firaxis can chose the best joke teller they have at the Team and use her/his face. May be is someone from Test and Quality assuring Civ III will be free of "not system" bugs... (just kidding).

If I can vote, I'll prefer Charlie Chaplin (Charlot) as a modern icon of an entertainer actor. His films are great, funny and with some tears for good measure. Maybe during a war it can substitute the Military advisor too (anyone remember the film where Charlot replaced Hitler? A masterpiece of acting, real piece of movies history).

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SerapisIV
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I honestly don't like Elvis's music much as well, but when it comes to pure entertainer, no one tops Elvis as a one man machine. That and I find it way too funny to have Elvis as an advisor for him not to be included in Civ3
paiktis22
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Originally posted by Mister Pleasant on 05-16-2001 03:11 AM
Robert Smith.


Now how can HE be an entertainer?! He'd be depressed all the time depressing the populace with him

Mister Pleasant
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Sure Robert Smith is an entertainer- every time I see him I laugh. (I got the cure for that, where's my flamethrower?)

As for showmanship, you'd be hard pressed to top Pink Floyd or Rodger Waters (arena rock but bizarre). But I do think George Carlin should be the political advisor. Who's more qualified?

SerapisIV
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Dear God, not George Carlin, he was funny when he started, now he's just cranky and whiney.

Elvis has stood the "Test of Time" When the Post Office started making popular stamps, what was the first one they issued? The King. What voting got more attention then even the Florida ballots and with less trouble? Elvis stamps.

Stefu
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Hey, you may kill him, but Elvis will always live in our hearts, man...

Father Beast
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Just wondering...
Where does Shakespeare fit into all of this?

Maybe you can build the wonder "elvis stage show". makes all people in city content, cahnges name of city to vegas, expires with discovery of alcohol...

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Elvis is Cool. I'm a punk fan, too, but Elvis... Well, he's the king, mate. Litsen to some of his better albums some time, From Elvis in Memphis perhaps. He may have been crap during his unfortunate movie career and his late decline, but Elvis at his height in the fifties and again in the late sixties is cool, no doubt about it.
SerapisIV
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Originally posted by Father Beast on 05-16-2001 03:23 PM
Maybe you can build the wonder "elvis stage show". makes all people in city content, cahnges name of city to vegas, expires with discovery of alcohol...

That's funny as hell!

paiktis22
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YES. THE ELVIS WONDER MUST BE IN. (as well as Elvis)
EthnicCleanser
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why couldnt' the entertainer be black? say eddie murphy? or perhaps bill cosby......

but if he is white i suggest Carrot Top

Mister Pleasant
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I'm just pleased that the advisors can be modified. So our entertainer can be replaced by Elvis, Johnny Rotten, or Dave Shappel. Even Robert Smith (fat or thin, just like Elvis).

And George Carlin is as funny as ever (except for that sitcom several years ago).

Adm.Naismith
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Originally posted by Mister Pleasant on 05-17-2001 12:30 AM
I'm just pleased that the advisors can be modified. So our entertainer can be replaced by Elvis, Johnny Rotten, or Dave Shappel. Even Robert Smith (fat or thin, just like Elvis).

Ehrr, I was not speaking about advisor, I was speaking of littel pics representing specialist (scientist, taxmen, entertainer).
That little black man with the rounded hat and the stick, i.e. Charlot, will fit nicely there as an icon without age, out of a proper historical reproduction of entertainer.

IMHO Charlot is more widely know outside USA than others people you mentioned.
Elvis "the Pelvis" is well know too, but... just a matter of taste, nothing personal, you know

Seeker
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You're talking about Charlie Chaplin?
Adm.Naismith
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quote:

Originally posted by Seeker on 05-17-2001 06:51 AM
You're talking about Charlie Chaplin?

Quoting my previus post:

quote:


If I can vote, I'll prefer Charlie Chaplin (Charlot) as a modern icon of an entertainer actor. His films are great, funny and with some tears for good measure. Maybe during a war it can substitute the Military advisor too (anyone remember the film where Charlot replaced Hitler? A masterpiece of acting, real piece of movies history).

Yes, I am talking about Mr.Chaplin

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paiktis22
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Chaplin is too... serious for that kind of job if you ask me

His movies... Chaplin was formost a critic of his society and then an entertainer if you ask me. Comedy was just his way of getting his (great and humanistic) messages across.

(who's Carlin?)

Adm.Naismith
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Originally posted by paiktis22 on 05-17-2001 11:29 AM
Chaplin is too... serious for that kind of job if you ask me

His movies... Chaplin was formost a critic of his society and then an entertainer if you ask me. Comedy was just his way of getting his (great and humanistic) messages across.

That's absolutely true, but we don't need to "level down" the Entertainer, do we?
We had great entertainer in history, not necessary lighthearted
Considering the fact that Civ III seems to be inspired by "Tower of Babel" painting, but probably going back to Greek Theatre will be too much on the serius side...

quote:

(who's Carlin?)

I haven't a hint!
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How dare anyone suggest that Johnny Rotten was created by the state?
paiktis22
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Originally posted by Adm.Naismith on 05-17-2001 12:14 PM
but probably going back to Greek Theatre will be too much on the serius side...

But if it was a Comedy play (like one of Aristophanes) you'd fall off your ancient theater sit laughing! Do you know Satyros? (in english??)

Don't know... The King just seems to fit perfectly in that job. The Elvis impersonator was really great and the concept of Elvis in that job just clicks somehow

«I cannot raise the spirits of the people aloooone your majesty»

Mister Pleasant
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Admiral, those pics could be modified in civ2 by altering people.gif

That's nothing new. I used to have a version with Mr. T as the entertainer. Ethnically diverse and strangely entertaining at the same time. I hope that Firaxis does not change this.
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joseph1944
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Elvis is in. New screen shot from Game Spy has a picture of Elvis as part of the Population.

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The Mad Monk
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Uh-huh Huh!

SerapisIV
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Ladies and Gentleman,

Elvis has ENTERED the building !!!

Thank God Firaxis, for a while I questioning the sanity of your graphics artists, how could they have waited this long to include Elvis, damn near scared the crap out of me. Civ without Elvis? Ha!

joseph1944
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It's to bad he is gone because if he was with us, he could come up with a title song for CIV 3.

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