The dominance of popular music by africans and their descendants is a lnger lived phenomenon, and much more clearly tied to long lived cultural traits, then, say, the temporary German dominance in armour tactics.

In civ3 African civs, (say the Zulus) should have, instead of elvises, "louis armstrongs" A louis should have double the happiness impact of an elvis.

Think they'll put this in the game?

Before you say this is racist, realize that it is no more racist than other manifestations of the "unique race" idea that have been suggested for the game.

LOTM

It was really interesting to listen how nations & people who lived in them, was more deeply effected by their own nation-cultural way of looking on things, then they perhaps like admit to themselves. One can really talk about specific and indevidualy different national-/cultural mentalities here. Especially in a melting-pot like Europe.

The truth is that each nation is in many ways still like a little duck-pond, with its own unique and strange (well, strange in the eyes of its neighbors) national and cultural habits. Sweden for example, is a tiny pond, while france and spain are both somewhat bigger ponds. The national mentality-differences between france and spain are clear and unquestionable. USA is by no means "urban", or "the norm" on the worldstage in this respect. USA is nationally/culturally a duckpond to - although a rather big one. They have a rather big influence culturally by their movie/television perhaps. But, as a people they are nevertheless stamped with certain introvert duckpond-like national/cultural characteristics that make them "typical americans", seen from a foreigners point-of-view.

quote: Originally posted by MarBaS on 05-06-2001 12:57 PM Why dont you drop this whole racist thing. The racisted argument is the dumbest thing people can argue about. Stop whineing about your stupid bull****.

What he said

quote: Originally posted by BeBro on 05-06-2001 05:26 PM I cannot see a link between unique civs and racism. The civs represent nations, not races!!! And nations are different, that doesn´t mean that one is better...

Then they should have differences in 1800 based on who they were in 4000 BC, apart from those based on the course of history, which already exist in civ, and do not require unique civ cherecteristics.

LOTM