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Topic: I am jack's utter disappointment... |  |
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Kaak
King
Lost
May 99
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posted April 26, 2001 17:41
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Oh well...I guess i'll have to wait for civ4 to come out before i switch. THE SCREENSHOTS have left me HORRIBLY disappointed. The visual interphase has crap thrown all over the screen like CtP. I like the nice clean interphase MUCH BETTER. What a pitty this great game is ruined.... |
Ralf
Prince
Sweden
Mar 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 18:11
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Now that you mention it I must say that I also get second thoughts.  Not so much because of the terrain-graphics - that can rather easily be updated/changed the next couple of months. Im thinking more about the interface itself.It reminds me to much of the interface-graphics in CTP. Also, I hated the blurry look of TOT. I prefer the crisp-sharp look of MS windows-graphics. Whats wrong with Civ-2 windows-style, with standard dropdown-menus an added rightclick-menus? Also, I want to be able to play the game in a window. And perhaps with different skins to play around with. |
Shadowstrike
King
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Jul 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 18:17
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I hope to God that this is an alpha screenshot. Because if the game looks like that in the final release, I doubt that many people would buy it. |
SerapisIV
Prince
Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Feb 2001
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posted April 26, 2001 18:35
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People don't buy Civ for flashy graphics, they buy it for the game. CivIII would easily be able to surpass The Sims sales if was sold today, even being at an off-time (not holiday) |
EnochF
Prince
Seattle, WA
b.02-15-99
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posted April 26, 2001 18:40
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Oh, here we go...Aside from some of the terrain squares, the graphics are fine. We've already seen the City Screen and we know it's not going to be plagued by CTP's infernal slider bars. And even if SMAC didn't convince you that pull-up menus can be as effective as pull-down menus, keep in mind that you can still use your function keys to call up pertinent information. There's nothing in the pictures we've seen that points to a problem with the i-n-t-e-r-f-a-c-e. Sheesh. Quit whining about the greatest game in the universe.  |
EnochF
Prince
Seattle, WA
b.02-15-99
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posted April 26, 2001 18:43
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By the way, that extra stuff at the bottom left of the screen isn't going to be there all the time. It's pretty clear that those icons relate to the possible actions that be taken with the highlighted unit: fortify and go, for example. |
Roman
Prince
Bratislava, Slovakia
Sep 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 19:42
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As far as I am concerned, the graphics are completely fine. |
connorkimbro
Emperor
DLIFLC - Presidio of Monterey, CA
b.02-15-99
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posted April 26, 2001 20:03
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I agree, the graphics are FINE!! If nothing else, they make me want the game all the much more.****, the game is MONTHS from being released, and you're complaining about the graphics because of what you ASSUME about the interface, which probably will change a DOZEN times before release? come on now. . |
Sirotnikov
King
Israel
Feb 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 20:48
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I guess it's not the final version, but a test version of SMAC with Civish graphics. I read this in Gamespot UK interview with Sid. |
ASHBERY76
Settler
ENGLAND
Jan 2001
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posted April 27, 2001 10:07
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Of course civ games are about gameplay but firaxis claimed that the game will have the best graphics of this genre.
I DONT THINK SO. |
Roman
Prince
Bratislava, Slovakia
Sep 2000
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posted April 27, 2001 11:14
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I don't want the graphics to be any "better" than they already appear to be from the screenshots. Too much animation and graphics would merely make the game look childish.BTW: Well done Firaxis!!! |
EnochF
Prince
Seattle, WA
b.02-15-99
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posted April 27, 2001 13:14
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By the way, who is Jack, and why are you his utter disappointment? |
Ralf
Prince
Sweden
Mar 2000
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posted April 27, 2001 14:14
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Originally posted by connorkimbro on 04-26-2001 08:03 PM
****, the game is MONTHS from being released, and you're complaining about the graphics because of what you ASSUME about the interface, which probably will change a DOZEN times before release? come on now. .
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 OK, then - perhaps I was a little to quick to comment that. As I said in another post; We havent all cards on the table yet - and the ones that IS available, can be replaced and changed I guess. By the way, that Domestic advisor screen looked nice. |
raingoon
Prince
Los Angeles
Aug 1999
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posted April 27, 2001 14:36
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Enoch, I believe "Jack's Utter Disapointment" was Ed Norton in the movie "Fight Club." By the way, how's Seattle? My own Apolyton name is a reference to that city you live in, my old home town, I'm sure everyone has been dying to know that! Well, now they do.So yeah, I must say I love seeing the whining and and kvetching start about what's wrong with the game, because it can only mean one thing -- THE GAME IS FINALLY COMING!!!! |
drake
King
of the Massholes
Oct 2000
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posted April 27, 2001 15:01
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Enoch, I believe "Jack's Utter Disapointment" was Ed Norton in the movie "Fight Club."
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It is a fight club reference, but that doesnt sum it up very well.......anyway......The Screenshots look fine to me. I don't see what the big deal is. There's nothing overly great about them, but there's certainly nothing wrong with them either. |
Cyberbugs
Settler
Sweden
Mar 2001
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posted April 27, 2001 17:46
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I guess I shouln't assume that the screenshots look exactly the same as the final game will look, but from what I see, I think the enviroment, for example the ocean, looks kind of dull. I wish they would use more distinct blue colors for the ocean and green ones for the grass. Make it something you will like looking at for 10 hours in a row - a nice home for the people in your civilization. |
Roman
Prince
Bratislava, Slovakia
Sep 2000
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posted April 27, 2001 17:49
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IMO: This game looks amazing in all respects (other than the 7 civilization per game limit). |
jordanz19
Settler
Campbell River, BC, Canada
Nov 2000
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posted April 28, 2001 01:27
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Ashbery: As has been stated is previous interviews, the Civ graphics you see in the screenshots are like this: As sson as they started to make Civ3, they took the SMAC engine, and replaced it with civ placeholders, and these shots sure look like it. In the 8-12 months until the release, the graphics will change. Don't be so quick to judge.
No wonder Firaxis was so reluctant to show screens this early. Dan M.-I understand now. But I know how it will improve, and I can't wait to spend my money!
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Kaak
King
Lost
May 99
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posted April 28, 2001 21:25
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hmmm...I never said anything about the graphics. The graphics will change almost assuredly. It is the interfase(sp?) i have a problem with. As ralf said, I too much prefer the civ2-windows-style display. It makes for cleaner, better organized gameplay.
For all those of you that turned this into a grpahics discussion: post your own thread if you have comments about graphics, don't hijack mine 
P.s. Enoch, if you don't know who Jack is, i hope that you live in a country other than the united states. If you live in the US, you really should get out more... |
John Paul Jones
Settler
Dublin
Apr 2001
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posted April 29, 2001 05:35
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Wait a minute - I know the map screenshot's are from an alpha ver. but they're FLAT. Why go to the trouble of designing funky voxel units when they get placed on a flat isometric map (which DOES look spookily similiar to the CTP series maps). Why not the raised & texture mapped world from SMAC or RailRoad Tycoon ][ ??? |
Kaak
King
Lost
May 99
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posted April 29, 2001 05:39
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i think graphics and maps aren't the main issue in that they are likely to change a great deal before the games release. I think the problem is that they aren't keeping the civ2 window-style interphase... |
Bkeela
Prince
Brisbane, Australia
Oct 1999
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posted April 29, 2001 11:49
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If those are the final graphics, I'll definately go the way of warez. With lush looking games like Black & White available these days, those graphics are a big joke. Test of Time looked just as good.Bkeela. |
markusf
King
Oct 1999
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posted April 30, 2001 11:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Kaak on 04-29-2001 05:39 AM
i think graphics and maps aren't the main issue in that they are likely to change a great deal before the games release. I think the problem is that they aren't keeping the civ2 window-style interphase...
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Ya i posted a thread on that before, not a single person who plays multiplayer actually wanted a game that wasn't windowed. If they are going to insist on not using standard windows, they should do what ultima did and force it to windowed mode. If they don't I am sure they will feel it in sales... |
Roman
Prince
Bratislava, Slovakia
Sep 2000
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posted April 30, 2001 16:51
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What?? Are you saying that the game is not windowed?!?! I hope this is a bad joke. |
Ilkuul
Warlord
of Thame (UK)
Mar 2000
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posted April 30, 2001 17:03
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Originally posted by Cyberbugs on 04-27-2001 05:46 PM
I think the enviroment, for example the ocean, looks kind of dull. I wish they would use more distinct blue colors for the ocean and green ones for the grass.
Make it something you will like looking at for 10 hours in a row - a nice home for the people in your civilization.
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I agree - except perhaps about the ocean! (Reminds me of tropical beaches, where the sea does have a greenish colour...) But the grass should be a vivid green! And your final paragraph expresses my thoughts exactly. Give us a bright, cheerful world to live in, Firaxis! |
markusf
King
Oct 1999
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posted April 30, 2001 17:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Roman on 04-30-2001 04:51 PM
What?? Are you saying that the game is not windowed?!?! I hope this is a bad joke.
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i wish it was just a bad joke
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