1. Yes, I love it! Give me expanding, huge cities with 4 or 5 circles radius!

2. I like it, but don't let cities grow beyond 3 circles radius.

3. I like the idea of expanding city radius, but 2 circles radius (Civ2) is enough.

4. No! I like the Civ2 style fixed city radius (2 circles).

5. I don't know / I don't care.

In the same time, I'd like to see benefits for big cities, like trade/tourism/production/science bonuses, but some negative effects too: overcrowding, crime, deseases, etc.

This is crucial as to when I buy the Game. If the Map is dynamic then I will buy right at release 48$ but if not will wait a year and buy at the discount 9-18$

So far, I vote for 2) Expanding, but don't let cities grow beyond 3 circles radius (starting with a radius of 1).

I would like to consider City radius not exactly a circle: I mean, if a city is near unpassable mountains it must limit the radius in that direction, as 1 square limit in sea shore direction (large fishing far from coast is unrealistic until proper tech advance, i.e. port facility).

I don't think this should be balanced from a radius stretch into "permitted" directions, i.e. having coastal city area growing more square following the coast line, but I'm open to different opinion.

It's more complex than usual circle method, but it could be more interesting, at least if some kind of CTP2 "public works" will be implemented.

Of course the player should have some "point cursor here to show city usable area" function, to check before moving a settler to found a new city.

Let's see how many possibilities do we have:
1. far sea tiles - port facility
2. tiles behind high mountains - road/railroad ?
3. tiles on the other side of rivers - bridge building
4.... something else ?

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work camps can be connected to the city by railways or road.

So any present & future polls dealing with core-elements of Civ-3 is basically a waste of time.
At this stage; polls should instead be about minor addon features, or minor tweaks & changes in the game.

quote: Firaxis has mentioned that they already playes around with a very early & premature beta-version of the game. If so; any such elementary game core-element as for example what city-radius model they should apply, has most probably already been decided, designed and irreversibly implemented.

Ralf, you may be right, but Firaxis told the very same about early beta developed for Dino, and now we had discovered Dino never taked off!
At that stage they haven't decided yet if the game had to be First person, TBS, RTS!

So I'm not taking anything for sure until Firaxis tell us in bold letter, therefore I suppose we can chat about almost everything

Ehi, I'm not sure only Firaxis team is reading the forum: you can never be sure where do "The Next Big Game" will come from!

Choice.....................................................Votes
1.expanding, more than 3 circles radius.........3
2.expanding, max. 3 circles radius.................8
3.expanding, max. 2 circles radius.................5
4.fixed style city radius, with 2 circles............3
5.I don't know/I don't care............................1

Just because you build a city doesn't exactly mean that its people are doing anything with the area all around it, right? So I think a city's radius should directly reflect the development you designate...no limit except for the fact that the further the tile from the city, the greater the efficiency penalty.

So while I could technically have a city radius of 10 circles, it would hardly be worthwhile to do so, pushing me then to either make more cities (which I hope we fix with anti-ICS stuff anyway) or by making my current tiles much more efficient (which is really what I hope will have to happen).

quote: Originally posted by Gastrifitis on 02-21-2001 04:46 PM I like the cities normally having a fixed radius, but I think there should be a Wonder of the World which allows a specific city to have an expanded radius. That would keep things from getting too out of hand.

Or an improvement, like mass transit, subways, or streetcars. Just as aqueducts and sewers increase maximum population, there would be improvements to increase maximum city size. Improved local transportation was the major force in creating the large, sprawling cities of today and inventing suburbia.