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Metamorph
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Commack, NY, USA
Mar 99
posted January 19, 2001 11:07   Click Here to See the Profile for MetamorphClick Here to Email Metamorph  send a private message to Metamorph
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Does this game have any hope whatsoever? Or will it be yet another imbalanced, tedious, nightmarish atrocity like the various other piles of slop that Sid and Friends have thusly churned forth?

- Metamorph

DarkCloud
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Do you think Alpha Centauri is tedious, if so, how so?
wittlich
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Let's hope not!
EnochF
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Alpha Centauri was fun to play for a good, solid month. But in the end, I went back to Civ II. Not because SMAC was a "imbalanced, tedious, nightmarish atrocity," but just because it felt like a big, graphics-enhanced Civ modpack. If they had release a version of Civ with the SMAC rules, that might have kept me more occupied...
The diplomat
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quote:

Originally posted by Metamorph on 01-19-2001 11:07 AM
Or will it be yet another imbalanced, tedious, nightmarish atrocity like the various other piles of slop that Sid and Friends have thusly churned forth?

- Metamorph

That comment is totally unfair: SMAC is a great game. Gettysburg is also an acclaimed title by Sid. Also, remember that Sid and co worked on civ2. Are you calling civ2 a pile of slop?


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[This message has been edited by The diplomat (edited January 19, 2001).]

yin26
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Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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Metamorph:

Call me biased, but I think Sid is perhaps the best game designer of all time. He focusses on what's important: Gameplay. This often means, of course, some of the flash values are dropped, and perhaps that turns some people off. But just take a look at this (and if anybody sees a game missing, please remind me):


  • Silent Service (1985)
  • F-15 Strike Eagle (1985)
  • NATO Division Commander (1985)
  • Conflict in Vietnam (1985)
  • Crusade in Europe and Decision in the Desert (1985)
  • Sid Meier's Pirates! (1987)
  • Red Storm Rising (1987)
  • F-19 Stealth Fighter (1988)
  • Gunship (1989)
  • Railroad Tycoon (1990)
  • Sid Meier's Civilization (1991)
  • Sid Meier's Covert Action (1991)
  • CPU Bach (1993)
  • Sid Meier's Colonization (1994)
  • Sid Meier's CivNet (1995)
  • Sid Meier's Civilization II (1997)
  • Magic: The Gathering (1997)
  • Sid Meier's Gettysburg! (then) Antietam! (1997)

Of course, on some of those titles, he was primarily an advisor (Brian Reynolds pretty much wrote SMAC and Civ2 on his own). BUT LOOK AT THAT LIST!!! If you don't find a game on there that kept you awake till morning and possible ruined several relationships, then all I can say is you should check yourself for a pulse.

In other words, I think Civ3 is going to be the best TBS game of the first half of this decade. And perhaps ever.

Take Care,

Yin
[This message has been edited by yin26 (edited January 19, 2001).]

Echinda
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Jan 2001
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Umm, shouldn't SMAC and SMACX be in that list?

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Chronus
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Aug 2000
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Silent Service and Red Storm Rising ...

Aahh, yes ... the good ol' days ... the sleepless nights ...

And, of course, the Civ years! :-)

yin26
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Apr 99
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I left SMAC off since from what I know, Sid had very little to do with it.
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