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markusf
Prince
Oct 1999
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posted November 18, 2000 22:25
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Who wants to see civ III be a windowed game vs a full screen game....
I find it interesting that one of the biggest appeals of civ II is the fact that it is windowed. At least this is a huge appeal for those of us that play the game online. So which do you think is better?
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OzzyKP
Warlord
Washington, DC USA
Oct 1999
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posted November 18, 2000 22:40
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Well i don't see the point in *****ing and moaning here, but yea, i'm deffinatly in favor of it being a windowed game. I hate full screen games, i've always got a crap load of other things going on. ------------------
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Zero_Tolerance
Warlord
Nashville, Tennessee US
Oct 2000
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posted November 18, 2000 22:46
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Originally posted by OzzyKP on 11-18-2000 10:40 PM
Well i don't see the point in *****ing and moaning here, but yea, i'm deffinatly in favor of it being a windowed game. I hate full screen games, i've always got a crap load of other things going on.
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Easy to get around; just hit the Microsoft Windows key on your keyboard to minimize any full-screen program and return to the Windows desktop. Though, it may be a good idea to have a full-screen game only as an option. ------------------
Zero
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markusf
Prince
Oct 1999
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posted November 18, 2000 22:48
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Thats not what we talking about.
ALT tabing is a pain in the butt. If you get a icq message etc you will never know unless your alt tabing out every 5 seconds.
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Zero_Tolerance
Warlord
Nashville, Tennessee US
Oct 2000
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posted November 18, 2000 22:59
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quote:
Originally posted by markusf on 11-18-2000 10:48 PM
Thats not what we talking about.
ALT tabing is a pain in the butt. If you get a icq message etc you will never know unless your alt tabing out every 5 seconds.
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Simple! If you have ICQ, then don't choose to play a full-screen game.  ------------------
Zero
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Empress
Queen
cause mingy loves me
Apr 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 00:51
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I definitly want it to be windowed. I think I would have played SMAC more if I had been able to do other things between turns. |
deity
Prince
Killcare Heights, NSW, Australia
May 99
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posted November 19, 2000 01:23
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Has to be windowed.I can't stand a game taking over the full use of my pc.
Don't like this in the reaMYST demo and it might put me off getting CTP2. They talked for years about muti-tasking, well now we all want to do it! civMP
napster
icq
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messenger
winamp........ I mean, you only do it if you got a good pc (or Mac)
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Moker Guy
Warlord
The Matrix
Feb 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 02:06
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you summed it up ozzy. when you need to contact people its better to have a windowed game than a full.
full screen games suck.Moker ------------------
Im here to play civ. Screw all of this political BS. Give me a game of civ with good players, that are more than just robots, and im having fun. I bet everyone else is too. Who cares who wins or loses? Its better to make friends than make enemies. Who knows you might run into a very important person on here. Oh yeah EyesOfNight is the most pathetic person i have ever ment in my life. |
jdlessl
Settler
Atlanta, GA, USA
Mar 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 02:18
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Winamp I never had a problem with in SMAC, but everything else was a pain in the ass. I also got ahold of windowed Colonization and loved it to death.Firaxis, if you're listening, for the love of god make it windowed! --
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vlad
King
Of Comedy
Dec 1999
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posted November 19, 2000 03:11
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I agree definately windowed!!! If it has multiplayer that is a must feature. |
Evil Capitalist
King
Let slip the butterflies of War!
Jul 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 03:55
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Am I the only person who doesn't mind full screen? |
Mercantile
Prince
Westcoast of Canada
Sep 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 03:58
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windowed and multi player all in one. None of this sp game and then an mp game years later to make more money. |
markusf
Prince
Oct 1999
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posted November 19, 2000 04:10
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quote:
Originally posted by Evil Capitalist on 11-19-2000 03:55 AM
Am I the only person who doesn't mind full screen?
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When your playing multiplayer and you got to wait close to 20 minutes later on in the game just to get your turn. The last thing you want is a game that is full screen it is boring as hell. Most of us love our windowed civ 2 because we can do our work, or chat etc between turns. I think you will be hard pressed to find anyone in the multiplayer forums who would be for a full screen game, its just such a pain in the ass. |
finbar
Emperor
Sydney, Australia
Jul 1999
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posted November 19, 2000 04:51
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I just "hide" the game on my Mac and get on with other things. Apart from that, Civ 3 should be windowed.------------------
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carnide_
Warlord
Aug 1999
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posted November 19, 2000 09:25
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Windowed! |
arii
Prince
St-Louis MO USA
b.02-15-99
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posted November 19, 2000 16:08
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Windowed. You've got to be able to do other things in between turns. |
Zero_Tolerance
Warlord
Nashville, Tennessee US
Oct 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 16:25
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Pardon me, but I believe that a windowed game uses more system resources than a non-windowed game. Though, I don't have any information to support this fact, I've had this problem with other games. That is why the player should have a choice to either have a windowed or non-windowed game. Which do you prefer? Ease of doing other tasks while playing civ, or a speedier, more stable game. The player should decide.P.S. If someone could successfully find some proof about this on the Internet and post it in this thread with a link to it that would be great! Thanks. ------------------
Zero
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MarkG
Apolyton CS Co-Administrator
Greece
b.02-15-99
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posted November 19, 2000 19:28
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response on the same issue in the ctp2 forum from Pyaray, a ctp2 developer
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The problem with running in Windowed mode as oppossed to full screen, is that animations are VERY slow. We do actually use quite a few animations in our game. There were no animations in Civ2, and that's why it could be a Windowed game. I seriuosly doubt Civ3 will be that way, although obviously I don't know for certain
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Crustacian
Prince
North Idaho PST
Jul 1999
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posted November 19, 2000 19:50
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windowed! CTP was a pain that way with no other messaging you could do easily.
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markusf
Prince
Oct 1999
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posted November 19, 2000 21:03
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markg Just compare CTP 2 to Sudden strike, red alert 2,starcraft or TA. All those games have 4+ players moving 100's of units at once. The only real lag in those games is caused by the network in multiplayer... Anyways SMAC and CTP 2 only allow you to move 1 unit at a time, therefor the effects of animations should be insignificant. The battle sceens in CTP 2 are nothing compared to a 100 unit army clashing with another 100 unit army in either TA or startcraft  I think the point has been made here, that there isn't a single person who plays civ2 online that wants to see civ 3 played full screen. That is because people get bored to death waiting between turns, and at the same time your cut off from doing anything else on your computer. |
ColdWizard
King
Nothing...... anybody seen my crown?
Feb 2000
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posted November 19, 2000 23:00
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windowed. i usually do several things at once and full screen games are a pain in the ass |
UltraSonix
King
Melbourne, Australia
May 2000
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posted November 20, 2000 07:28
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I can't belive everyone ignored Markos' quote - I thought all you guys wanted pretty little animations in the game - looks like windowed will be unsuitable for that!And as to the topic - I think the game should be full screen. (And that was before reading Markos' post.) quote:
I definitly want it to be windowed. I think I would have played SMAC more if I had been able to do other things between turns.
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Even though SMAC wasn't windowed as such, it still ran as though it was. You could still use other programs while playing - I use icq in the EOT's. But I think you might need to call up the taskbar by a ctrl+esc or use alt-tab or something...------------------
No, in Australia we don't live with kangaroos and koalas in our backyards... Despite any stupid advertisments you may see to the contrary... (And no, koalas don't usually speak!) |
Sirotnikov
Prince
Israel
Feb 2000
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posted November 22, 2000 17:02
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Originally posted by UltraSonix on 11-20-2000 07:28 AM
Even though SMAC wasn't windowed as such, it still ran as though it was. You could still use other programs while playing - I use icq in the EOT's. But I think you might need to call up the taskbar by a ctrl+esc or use alt-tab or something...
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I noticed that too... SMAC works very good eith other games.
I think it's becasue it doesn't use Direct-X etc.
I hate when some one ICQs me during a MP game and a game crushes. WINDOWED!!! WINDOWED!!! WINDOWED!!! |
VetLegion
GGS Programmer
Sep 1999
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posted November 22, 2000 17:59
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full screen |
Biddles
Prince
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mar 99
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posted November 22, 2000 20:52
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Fullscreen.It isn't that difficult to alt+tab. Shouldn't it be possible to option this. I have seen games (a few years old, but still) that you can run in either fullscreen or windowed modes. ------------------
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UltraSonix
King
Melbourne, Australia
May 2000
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posted November 22, 2000 21:15
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Fullscreen.
It isn't that difficult to alt+tab.
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I think what is meant by "full screen" would be that is would be impossible to multitask - like in Starcraft. Otherwise the answer to the questionwould be obvious!------------------
No, in Australia we don't live with kangaroos and koalas in our backyards... Despite any stupid advertisments you may see to the contrary... (And no, koalas don't usually speak!) |
Biddles
Prince
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mar 99
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posted November 24, 2000 23:06
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Ultra, what are you talking about? You can ALt+Tab out of starcraft. I don't think I have found a game yet that you can't alt+tab out of.------------------
- Biddles "Now that our life-support systems are utilising the new Windows 2027 OS, we don't have to worry about anythi......."
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UltraSonix
King
Melbourne, Australia
May 2000
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posted November 25, 2000 07:56
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What the?
Be back soon to verify the veracity of that information... if SC is still installed.edit: Damn it's no longer installed. But I seem to recall that SC wouldn't be alt-tabbed out of unless you access the map editor from the main screen. Oh well in that case than the debate on full screen or not has a forgone conclusion, then. ------------------
No, in Australia we don't live with kangaroos and koalas in our backyards... Despite any stupid advertisments you may see to the contrary... (And no, koalas don't usually speak!)
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