Anyway. SMAC had governors in each base, so I assume we'll have the same in Civ3 - whether they go beyond the model in SMAC (ie simply a device for saying do this, don't do that) or whether they'll be more complex, who knows. I'd personally be happy with the SMAC model.

Looking forward to it all!

quote: Could leaders develop relationships with other leaders which could alter over time and affect diplomacy and administration?

Good idea, but imagine 7 civs @ 25 cities each, and all the possible combinations of relationships for the computer to compute.

It was a thing I liked very much in the game I played. The properties of the Governor should be somewhat hidden however (unlike MOOII), otherwise you would be checking the sorry bastards every other turn (I might), adding to the micromanagement strain. Messages from agents that report a governor doing very bad / good should be included. Corruption in this way should not be traceable directly to a city, but only to the central treasury ("we lost $121 to corruption this turn, sir).

I mean, nobody knows everything, and only having a spy/agent network might improve you knowledge on this.

Remember..Opportunity doesnt present itself..it is created by circumstances we place ourselves into!

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I've been saying similar things many moons ago. I totally agree, but I think that leader's personality shouldn't affect the human civ, as I evolve and change my strategies anyway.

quote: Originally posted by Zeevico on 03-01-2001 10:06 PM Egypt: Pacifist? Not in the same sentence as far as i know. During the past 50 or so years Egypt has attacked Israel three times

Also, during the time of Moses (I can never remember the years), Egypt was an empire, not just a big nation. Now, there may have been times that Egypt *was* pacifistic, but not through their entire history. In fact, I don't think any of the major civilizations (especially those in Civ) were pacifists for their entire history. I guess this counts as a vote for the evolving leaders idea. :-)

Marc

quote: Originally posted by Zeevico on 03-01-2001 10:06 PM Egypt: Pacifist? Not in the same sentence as far as i know. During the past 50 or so years Egypt has attacked Israel three (this is the amount when the declaration of war was actually made. Other times they just sent gangs to kill a few farmers or blocked of Israeli shipping) . Maybe it was pacifist before that but right now it isn't too much of a pacifist (it, along with other Arab countries, contributed a total of 1 billion dollars to the intifadah in Israel. Meaning, that's even more weapons and bombs Arafat has to blackmail Israel). That kind of reveals it stance towards Israel rather openly, does it not?

Well, I ignored the part about egypt being pacifist and supported the civ 3 idea, but I really appriciate your post.

You know, you should be in the Off-Topic forum as there are constantly discussions there about the nature of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it's history and current events. I think you have lot's to contribute.

Most posters there know little and speak only about their impressions from bits of news.

I would also be glad to invite you into the Israeli Defense Coalition consisiting of Me (Siro for short), Eli (formerly known as Builder) Taurus, Yoav, Natan, Spartan187.
(kidding, there is no such coallition. Each poster posts mainly on his own.)