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Author Topic:   The all time greatest idea: Replay movies...            Current Date/Time: May 02, 2000 11:17:22
Kaak
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May 99
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I can't tell you how many times i have been playing civ2gold MP and wondered by how much units missed each other early in the game, or see the other person's strategy...It would be AMAZING! if y'all could make it so that after a game has been played to completion, it is possible to go back and watch turn by turn w/ a revealed map and it be like a civ movie that is different for every game! HELLA FUN!
mwaf
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Helsinki, Finland
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There was a similar function in Civ1. When finished the game you could choose between Quick replay, Complete replay and Save Replay. However, as a cross platform player, I'm not sure this is featured in the original PC Civ1, but I think it was featured in the PC CivNet as it had the same graphics as the Mac Civ1. (BTW, I've mostly played Civ2MPG for PC and Civ1 for Mac, but I've also played CivNet and Civ1 (and the regular Civ2) for PC)

Quick replay and Complete replay was the same (expect for Quick replay being faster), it showed the whole map and you could see the cities and the area every civ had colored with respective civs in-game color. This animation showed quite clearly how other civs advanced, if civs that you couldn't find before destroyed actually was you nearest neighbor and stuff like that.


The Save replay option saved all major happening of the game as text. Here is an example of how what the looked like:
The file starts with a map
------ (In the actual file the map is bigger)
........ ..
....... ...
.....*Athens ....
.. .... .........
.*Sparta .......*Rome
.. *C+Antioch*Caesarea
.. ...............
... ++*Pharsalos..
...... *Memphis ......... ..
...... .. . ....+Pe*Washington
..... ... .......
.. ..*Corinth... *Nicopolis
... .......*The*Uruk
------ (it starts with 4000 BC and end when the game ended)
3200 BC: Egyptians produce first Phalanx
3180 BC: ROMANS PRODUCE FIRST CAVALRY
3100 BC: Egyptians found the city of Memphis
3080 BC: Washington destroyed
3080 BC: American civilization destroyed by Romans
3080 BC: Romans make peace with Chinese
3000 BC: ROMANS: 1 CITIES; 60,000 POPULATION
2980 BC: Egyptians discover Currency
2940 BC: Chinese found the city of Peking
2820 BC: Babylonians found the city of Sumer
2480 BC: French found the city of Orleans
2460 BC: Babylonians discover MapMaking
2440 BC: Greeks make peace with Babylonians
2200 BC: Egyptians discover Writing
2200 BC: Greeks found the city of Corinth
2140 BC: ROMANS DISCOVER CODE OF LAWS
2120 BC: ROMANS BUILD THE COLOSSUS
2120 BC: Babylonians discover Mathematics
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I liked this feature and I wouldn't mind having an more advanced option in Civ3, as you suggested.

Kaak
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May 99
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hehe...and there for a minute i thought i had a truly "original" idea =)

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WarVoid
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of the Republic of Atlantis
Apr 2000
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I loved the original replay in civ1. And I was very dissappointed to find it missing in civ2. Alpha Centauri has something like it in the endgame sequence.

I would prefer to have a 'replay player' option. Where we can load replays of old games and use them to remember old strategies.

OrangeSfwr
Chieftain
Pennsylvania
Feb 2000
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I believe I saw an entire thread on this before. I think if there is no replay option than Sid is doing the game (and Civ fans) a major injustice. It even showed territory boundries in the Civ 1 replay which was really neat. You could look back and see where civs had control when you hadn't yet made contact with them. I'm praying they include it in Civ 3.

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MidKnight Lament
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Melbourne, Australia
May 99
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Here 'tis: History Book as an ending of the game

btw, I agree. The replay in Civ I was cool.

- MKL
[This message has been edited by MidKnight Lament (edited May 01, 2000).]

Earthling7
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Jul 1999
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No doubt there. There HAS to be a replay thingy in Civ3. Otherwise I will believe that the injustice of Civ2 will reign forever, and obviously that is a sure road to doom...

Seriously!

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SilverDragon
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Apr 2000
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It would be fun to be able to replay the game with the entire map revealed. Once, I saw an AI send an explorer right through my territory just barely missing all of my cities. So the explorer never found me. It was funny. Imagine all the things like that the replays would show.

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mwaf
Settler
Helsinki, Finland
b.02-15-99
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It would also be nice to first see how the world got it's shape, which continents belonged together long before man walk 'em, also how humans ended up on different continents by continent movement. This would show things as why most civs are/aren't on a given region (examples: europe/Australia).

It would also be nice if the random map generator would place mountains where they geographically could be. (not sure how correctly placed mountains are in CivII)

Steve Clark
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Colorado Springs, CO
Oct 1999
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Are you saying you want to see a replay of the AI strategy?!? I couldn't care less to view the many stupid moves of the AI. I really don't think this will be an injustice if they don't do it, I'd rather to have them spend more resources on 'improving the AI' instead of cosmetics. IMO of course.
markusf
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Oct 1999
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I agree its a great idea, and i loved that function. But as a programmer i would it would give me nightmares about all the cheating that could be unleashed. The only way to stop cheating is to allow it only after the appollo wonder is built.
mwaf
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quote:

Originally posted by markusf on 05-01-2000 05:10 PM
The only way to stop cheating is to allow it only after the appollo wonder is built.

If I remember correctly the replay was only available when the game ends (not when you retire) like; you conquer the world, spaceship arrives, time runs out (2020 AD I think) and maybe even if you got conquered.

Adm.Naismith
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Milano - Italy
Oct 1999
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Please, take a glance at the thread "History book..." that MidKnight lament nicely link in previus message, it already contains same (and more) ideas about the replay.

It also contains some of my best brain efforts

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