My other proposal deals with Civ breakups. In rules.txt, there should be specified several nations that could be the independence-wanting parts of breaking-up empire. Here are some:

But things like these can change over time.
The swedish people was once the terrifying vikings that robbed what they could from other countries. The strive in sweden right now is to be very good at IT-techs and enviromental-friendly techs. We have changed from power to knowledge.

And as for Austria, just include it as own civ and name it "Austria-Hungary" and it can break into Hungarians, Yugoslawians, Czech and Austrians.

The only thing, you have to take care is then localization! Because I am absolutely sure, Firaxis will replace "Germans" with "Deutsche"!

This whole problem expires if you use Celts!

As for civil wars, I agree wholeheartedly. The only real way that a civ has civil war is if the capitol is overtaken. I think that if an empire reaches a large size that it should undergo a civil war (and it should not necessarily be known to the player that it is going to happen). For example, if the Americans start of as the only civ in the Western Hemisphere and by the time 500 AD roles around is occupying the entire continents of North and South America, a civil war should break out. Some stipulations of course (I can't think of any at the moment) but you get the idea. I also think the breakaway civ should be somewhat organized on which cities become the new civ. Why should random cities jump ship to the new civ during the Civil war? There should be some reason why a city joins the other civ. It's a great idea to have the Civs break up according to current geography (E.G. When the Russians undergo civil war, the Ukrainians would be a good choice for the new civ, not the Zulus.)

I was referring to "German" the word used for ancient era and I also know how it is pronounced. Ge-ru-man? is it right? not Ger-man. Ge's G sounds like Guy's G not Germ's G. I tried to learn German language once but it was too hard for me to master but I still remember this Der-Des-Dem-Den, Die-Der-Der-Die, Das-Des-Dem-Das and Die-Der-Den-Die. Right Ata? If i'm wrong please correct me.

Hello OrangeSfwr

I completely agree with you on that "no more civs in Europe" so long as the map scale will be small as CivII' one.(too crowded!) But if there is an increase of map scale, I wanna see all the major European nations included. Frankly, I want to see the latter taken into the game.

Stefu

Isnt it understandable that everyone (at least once) want to play his own civ?

Iam not nationalistic or so. Dont get me wrong, but when I see the list of civs to choose from and I cant find one, I really would like to choose my own. But sadly it isnt there

Atahualpa is right, we finns don't like if someone called us swedes, russians, or even vikings. Finland is completely different. Our culture is scandinavian, capitalized and material somewhat like yours in US, Canada, Australia, England and other "western-countries" but the people look different from eg. the swedes. The language is something you can't find anywhere else. The grammar is a bit similar to hungarian but almost all the words are our own, small amount taken from swedish or russia. I'm nationalistic but not too much, I'm Finnish not European. I know it's just a bit over 5 million of over 6 billion people living on this planet, but it sounds like you in "America" could replace all the civs in Europe with only one, The Europeans. And please don't fill up the empty areas of the map with Brazil or Australia etc. Use native people for that. The idea of having a civilization to break up into other civs is great. That just doesn't really work with the countries of Europe, especially not Finland. Rather leave Finnish out of the game than let them continue after Russia or the Vikings loose. Finland is not a nation whose people were sometime a real part of some other nation, two countries, first sweden then russia just happened to occupy this piece of land the finns were living in. None of the finns ever thought they were swedish or russian.

Every country I've been to (almost every country in Europe, only some in south eastern Europe unvisited.) is different from the others. I bet everyone who lives in Europe feels the same way.

Maybe Firaxis could make Europe larger, or make the squares smaller in Europe. CTP went way over the line when they put eg. Jamaica to the game, Firaxis, don't over do it!! I'm actually happy about the civs in civ2. In Civ2 if I want to play Finnish, I can always take Vikings, change the name of the tribe and walk a few squares with my settler, then press "B" and build a city named "Helsinki"

There you have some info about Finland..
I didn't intend to offend anyone, if I did I apologize. This whole subject just feels really irritating sometimes.

perhpas you want ability to name all your oponents in SP .. a i play MP I always choose custom civ and dont care about name si fighting against...