e.g.

Americans - Confederates
English - Republicans

Actually rulers before industrialization had very little control over their civ. Peasant revolts came with just a few years between, and it was often that the aristocracy began a civil war because they didn't like how the king ruled the country.

The peasant revolts almost always came due to food shortage. This could be because of a bad harvest. This could be a sponaneus event happening very often in a city (City X will produce only one half of it's normal food production for 2 turns), and if the people starved there could emerge 1 or 2 (pretty pathetic) units in or near the city. If the units garrisoned weren't capable of destroying these the city would fall into the hands of the peasants (a new civ would have emerged), and this could give major unhappyness in the nearby cities, perhabs causing them to revolt. So if you didn't destroy all resistance fast Machiavellan style you could end up with a large civil war.

Other causes of civil wars could be nationalism (a colony could become it's own nationalistic entity if there was not enough contact (migration and trade) between that and the motherland) causing a war for inependance. Or a once conquored enemy could suddently revolt, causing rebellions in it's previous cities.

Too high taxes could also cause civil wars, and so could unhappyness with your current SE settings. I think the people in each city should have it's own distinct "personlality", meaning that they would have a rating on 1-10 in different areas - individualism, militarism etc. Your SE settings would have to somewhat resemble your citizens' characteristics. So if you were a democracy you would need at least an individualism level of 5. And if it was 6 or 7 there would be a significant amount of corruption and waste (look at Russia). If you had a low individualism level your people wouldn't be unhappy with a nondemocratic govenment. But what if one of your cities had a much lower individualism level than the other cities and you were a democracy? That would give a lot of unhappyness and corruption in that city, and a high chance of rebellion. What if there were 10 cities next to each other which were all different from your other cities? That would be a very good reason for a civil war.

I think the problems with having a too polarised civ should be so large that you in modern times would not integrate a conquored civ, but make it a protectorate or give it it's independance back.

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Originally posted by Dobermann on 01-04-2000 03:26 AM
Uh, when you change goverment there should be a chance(15%?) of civil war during the next 2? turns

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American - Confederates
English - Republicans (or Welsh/Scotts?)

Some others might be:

Russian - Bolsheviks
Native American - (whatever Tecumseh's confederacy of Indian nations was called)

In Civ I Civil War was a nice strategic tool to use AGAINST a too-large computer opponent, by capturing their capital. However, obviously capturing a large civ's capital might very well unite such a country against you, rather than divide them.

In Civ III, whatever causes civil war must be the relationship between the player's needs and their citizen's needs. For instance, somebody's suggestion that "devolving" your government to a lower form may cause a civil war. Perfect example from a game design point of view. The player playing a democracy needs to wage war in a more economical way. The citizen's needs in the same democracy are to grow, and peacefully. Thus, imposing Fundamentalism on them would lead to civil unrest, with a percentage chance that one of the cities will outright revolt against the capital, starting the civil war.

Civil Wars in Civ 3

1. Reasons for Civil Wars
2. Causes
3. The Revolting Faction
4. Effects
5. Misc.

Reasons for Civil Wars
The idea for civil wars to occur more frequently in Civ 3 and to be more severe is based on a two things.

1. The vast majority of nations have had or continue to have some sort of civil war.
2. The outcome of some civil wars have changed the course of history or forever changed the nation ( the American Civil War, English Civil War, Boshlivak Revolution, and the French Revolution just to name a few).

Causes of Civil Wars

1. Lack of food - If city is in a state of famine( meaning loss of city size) for two turns, then the people in the city would revolt. This would correspond with the peasant revolts in most ancient time due to a food shortage.
2. Change in government - If a civ changes its form of government, then a revolt in cities that have an opposition to that form of government should occur . The same is true if a civ reverts to a less advanced form of government i.e. Monarchy to Despotism, Republic to Monarchy, cities that have a lower individual liberty rating will have no problem, but cities that are big on individual liberty will be mad and most likely revolt( will revolt if the change is from a republic or democracy to a communist or despotic government).
3. Pacifistic City - If a city is pacifist, meaning it has a low militarism rating, and the nation is involved in a war, then there should be some unhappiness or a good chance of revolt in the city. If the war is against a smaller, peaceful neighbor, then there should be a great likely hood of revolt in the city.
4. Casualties - Cities that have lost a certain percentage of its unit during a war would being to get upset and if the losses continue then the city would revolt and demand peace.
5. Capture of a Capital - In Civ 1 and I think in Civ 2, if the capital of civ is captured then there was a chance of a civil war in that country. I think that countries that have a non-representative form of government( non republic or democracies) should be the only ones affected by this.
6. Revolt in Neighboring Cities - Cities that are close to one that is in revolt should have a greater chance of revolting against the government. Sympathy with neighbors is a common way for civil wars to spread.
7. Occupied Cities - Cities that have been conquered by a nation should always be threatening to revolt against their conquers. If the cityÍs civ is still alive then the threat of revolt is great. The moderating influences on this is if the conquering nations have military superiority and if the civ has died.
8. Overtaxation - The overtaxaiton of citizen is a sure fire way of getting them mad at you. If a city has a tax burden greater than 30% of its base trade income (excluding all multiplying factors except the marketplace and trade routes) then the city would go into a state of revolt.

The Revolting Faction

1. A civil war should occur only if two or more cities located in near each other are in a state of revolt for more than one turn. (This is just for the sake of playability) However, if a civ changes it government or loses its capital, then the time limit is removed.
2. The revolting faction should have a historical name of the revolting faction that correspond with the original civ. American Ü Confederate, English Ü Republicans are a few names.
3. The home nation can give the revolting faction its independence, offer to give it autonomy, or subdue the rebels.
4. The revolting faction has the possibility of recognition and intervention of a foreign power in their favor. This would occur only if the revolting faction had dealt a certain amount of casualties on the original civ. This would allow the revolting faction to conduct diplomacy with the recognizing civ.

That's it so far. Keep those ideas coming!!

Though not every coup ends in violence. The coups in Ivory Coast and Pakistan were peaceful.