Alley_cat,

If you would like any help in the GL stuff I would be more than happy to help you out. I would have some learning to do, but then that is half of the fun!

quote: Originally posted by alley_cat on 04-03-2001 02:56 PM Sorry to spoil you fun Rhuarc, but the GL is already complete and any further bug fixes to it will be done by Wes (although I insisted that I will do it). Maybe Wes will give me some other job as I specifically told him I want one, and than you will be able to help me. Stay in touch...

That would be great. Just let me know. Wes, the same goes for you, if you ever need any grunt work done I would more than glad to help you out!

quote: Originally posted by alley_cat on 04-03-2001 02:56 PM Sorry to spoil you fun Rhuarc, but the GL is already complete and any further bug fixes to it will be done by Wes (although I insisted that I will do it). Maybe Wes will give me some other job as I specifically told him I want one, and than you will be able to help me. Stay in touch...

That would be great. Just let me know. Wes, the same goes for you, if you ever need any grunt work done I would more than glad to help you out!

I still see that half the things posted here that have people confused are explained in the various readmes. At least consult them before spending time posting here. It will save you time and effort.

I have already removed the old mech. inf. sprite. It was a sprite of an early tank, and was not similar to any true troop-carrying vehicle. I also checked out the WWII sprites mentioned for the Paladin, and they just look too old for the Information age unit. We really need someone with graphics expertise to step up and make a couple of units, since Morgoth has been bogged down with work. I need a couple of units that I know he will not be able to get to before we are ready to go public, and I will not hold up the public release because of an inappropriate unit among the 150 or so in the game.

Just to address David "Warmonger" Murray, it is very easy to take things out of the mod- it's getting them in that is a b1tch. I would encourage people to make their own variations of the mod once it goes public. The more experimenting people do, the better the game will become.

Be careful what you wish for as far as the GL. It has a very steep learning curve, as Alley Cat has found out. Those of you who have not delved into the innards of the mod probably don't realize how many *thousands* of lines of code have been changed or made from scratch. There are probably a couple of thousand in the units text alone. All of this stuff has to be tied together, and much of it shows up in the game through the GL.
The work Charles (Diodorus Sicilis) has made for the gameplay and historical files would take an hour to read. It is outstanding work, btw, for those of you at all interested in history, and I doubt few civers are uninterested in history. I said that the Medpack I was worth downloading just for the historical gls John LaMaitre made, and Charles' work is at least as good. One thing I may do before the public release is make a short readme on the creators, so that you can all see the quality of the people who have contributed to the mod.

Someone said that noble is available too early. I think he might be right. Now there is only few turns to play without nobles and in that time you usually don't even see other players.

And about the AIs' love all AIs I discussed earlier. I just want to say that the situation where AI either loves other AI or hates him is not a good situation. There have to be other possible situations too like AI is neutral against other AI etc.

And I last said that establish embassy sound comes allways two times. I am not sure anymore I have some problems with my soundcard(sometimes when I start up my computer soundcard is not working at all) and that two time sound bug might be only my(or my soundcard's) problem .

Anyways, just a couple of comments.
1. READ THE READMES! Too many things are being posted that are addressed in the readmes.
2. UPDATE! I also see a couple of things relating to earlier versions than the posted one.
3. The guy who reported the double-embassy sound. I'd say it's the soundcard. That's a common sympton when something's wrong with the soundcard. It probably only occurs with certain wavelengths, and that file is the right wavelength.

Sorry for not being here !! But I'm having trouble coming to the forum, ie 5.5 says that the page could not be found so I had to put www. before the URL.
Is this just me or do y'all have that same problem ???

Hadn't had much time to test, very busy with my work, but vacation is coming along in which I intend to spend a lot of hours playing and rewriting my script.

Had to begin all over again due to not making comments in the code I made an error somewhere but can't find it !!!!!

Anyways...hope there will be a new update soon and that I can reach this page normally !

Joseph1944 : In this thread early pages 1 or 2 perhaps 3 there are some articles about an error made by one of the modders where a sprite was named wrong so the game would crash......just look up this article, you should rename your sprite...just forgot to what so look it up

I think the idea that there should be any bonus at all for same-government civilizations is wrong--theocracies hate each other because they don't believe that any other religion is God's religion that their own, Monarchies battled it out for control of the world in the medieval age, democracies constantly have disagreements, and so on. Maybe it should be enabled for certain types of governments only--fascism, virtual democracy, etc. But why bother?

If only the real world was a peaceful as CTP2...I don't want to see war become the be-all and end-all, but almost all of our major historical events have been wars or the results of wars...and personally, I don't know about you guys, I don't find "diplomacy" with a pre-programmed pile of drives, screws and cream-colored casing very fruitful. I much prefer to experience the wonderful emotion, intellect and cunning of a human...so perhaps too much effort goes into tweaking things that don't really need to be tweaked, and yet war is still inconsequential in CTP2.

quote: Originally posted by David Murray on 04-04-2001 01:48 PM Well, I didn't mean to sound rude. I think the idea that there should be any bonus at all for same-government civilizations is wrong--theocracies hate each other because they don't believe that any other religion is God's religion that their own, Monarchies battled it out for control of the world in the medieval age, democracies constantly have disagreements, and so on. Maybe it should be enabled for certain types of governments only--fascism, virtual democracy, etc. But why bother?

David, if you read a post of mine back on page 5 I think it was, you'll note that I've taken out the same-govt cheat.

Tom (Morgoth) has his Mongol unit mostly done, and Harlan told me that Tom had told him that he would make a Siege Engine. The Apolyton Pack unit I am currently using is good enough until Tom gets the Seige Engine done, and I can use the Apolyton Pack Horse Archer, currently slated for the Nomadic Horseman, until the Mongol is done.

After that, the Paladin unit would be nice, with the animations mentioned for the Partisan. An early 20th century rifleman unit would be nice as well, to replace the Brown Marine from the WWII scenario currently being used.

As far as putting the mod in a self-extracting file, we tried that with the Ctp1 Awesome Aips, and found that Mac users could not use those types of files.
With the current setup, there should not be any problems, since you open up the Call-to-Power folder for extraction, and there is no reason for people to move around folders within the game itself.

Bye Bye

I first recognised this in my current game(27th march version). I have now played it ummm about to the year 200AD. In this game I have seen this dying animation two times. Both times only one unit in one visible city have been died. I had no time to see it well but it might be a sprite with a one man standing with dark(maybe black) shirt on and that man is maybe falling backward.

After the animation I have checked the units in that city and it seems that all units that were there before are still there. And militia is the same as before(phalanx).

I am not sure if there was a sound when a dying animation occurs but I think there were no sound.

And this dying animation only occurs(if I remember right) when I get new technology.

Anyone seen this too?

That happened to me once, but in my game it seemed like one unit died in every city, although I went and looked and I hadn't actually lost any units. Has anyone had any problems witht the wonder movies at the beginning of the game? The science wonders at the begginning all play the same movie, I think it is the agency movie, but I'm not sure. Somebody let me know if you've seent his too.

quote: Originally posted by alley_cat on 04-05-2001 07:45 AM Jani, I reported such a problem not long ago. It was after i got a technology and than all my Spearman Militia in all my cities were killed (that was pretty early in the game). Its nice to know I'm not the only one having this problem, only it appears a bit diffrent in our cases. In my case, All my spearman militia in all my cities died, and I saw them dying one by one, with the sounds (sounds pretty horrific, right? ).

Your situation is different(I think). I have had this "all militias gets killed" too(and I reported it too ) but I suppose it is now fixed(in 27th). It happened when you got technology that gives you the phalanx.

It does not seem to take away your militias, and it occurs as you get certain advances. Wes has mentioned that there still is some bugs in that code, and he is waitng for an update. Keep an eye on what is happening with your militias - whether they are being disbanded, because that will affect gameplay.

I know this is a little late to bring something up like this, but I was just reading in the Multiplaying forum that the hotseat support and things like that are still in the game, they just have lots of glitches and things. have you ever thought of trying to get those working in your mod? That was one thing I really like in CTP1 and was really dissapointed that they took it out. Well, think about it and let me know what you think!

I know this is a little late to bring something up like this, but I was just reading in the Multiplaying forum that the hotseat support and things like that are still in the game, they just have lots of glitches and things. have you ever thought of trying to get those working in your mod? That was one thing I really like in CTP1 and was really dissapointed that they took it out. Well, think about it and let me know what you think!

I have been playing you mod some more. Everything seems to be working fine other than the things that have already been mentioned, so I won't bring them up again.

I have an observation to make about the charts though. It would be nice if you could add a column in the Wonders chart that tells which advance gives a specific Wonder. That would be a very nice addition. Also, it would be nice if something could be added in the Terrain chart that tells what advance gives you teraforming capabilities and what capabilities those are. I know that these are just minor things, but I thought I would bring them up anyway.

Wes, you and the rest of the Mod team keep up the good work. I am really enjoying you mod.

I hope I say all of this correctly. I’m in the year 1630 or so, and this is happing. I made the discovery to build Ironclad and Ships of the Line. I put the Ironclad in the building queue and later when I made another discovery (and not sure which discovery) the Ironclad and Ship of the Lines dropped out of the queue, and now I can only build Gallons. I know that in CTP 1 when you made a Discovery that deleted a unit, it was dropped from the queue, but in CTP 2 it was not dropped. Is the cost of everything supposed to be high? (30 turns to build a Granary)?

Well it is now 7:33pm pacific, and now I have a bigger problem. The Cost to build new Unites or Improvments is still the same but the time to build them has gone way up. A granary now take 100 turn to build, a unit 400 turns, a wonder 1,800 turns, I know you wanter to slow things down a bit but this is kinda crazy. The discovery time is still the same, between 5 and 10 turns for a new discovery. I'm in the year 1780.