CTP2's Senior Producer Parker Davis, confirmed to us today that the team is working on a patch and is expected to be ready "within the next couple of weeks". A specific release date has not been set, nor is there a set list of bug fixes or changes.

I hope the Activisioners have a look at the multiplayer forum comments in addition to the patch wishlist.

Hey Markos, that explains the delay in your review, you were waiting for the patch first, right?

BTW I found your Usenet postings interesting to read )

quote: Originally posted by Mr Ogre on 12-06-2000 06:09 PM The primary focus of the patch is indeed network games. No new functionality for multiplayer has been added, but stability is greatly improved.

Real good idea that is!!!

There is a lot of inconsistency in LAN games. Friends do see my units at different positions than I do...

Also would it be possible to do a Team Modus? So that you can play 2 vs 2 games for example?

Please do not neglect a 'Hot Seat' patch.

These are the only thing i need patched.

More diplomacy between the AI players and More hostile to the human player (More attacks) They fight between them so just make them prefer to fight the Human.

Yes make the AI use transports over water both troopsships and carriers, missiles for bombers etc.

The Air unit fuel problem that have been discussed must be fixed.

/Mathias

A cavalry unit as ancient flanking unit... not the knight!

Unit capability to bombard from a distance!

Scenarios!

You'd think I would be glad but I'm actually paranoid...

I'd expect only fatal or near fatal errors will be addressed.

The thing that bothers me most is that there is no upgrade feature for units. And then the interface is also stupid. When I am in the build manager I have to know what and how many units are in this certain city! So what do I have to do? Click on City manager+klick on Units tag+klick on close. Waste of clicks that is!
Next the msgs of the message tab are displayed upper left hand corner. The "pool" is lower right hand corner. So when I click on a message I have to move the mouse all the way up to close it and then move it all the way down to delete the message. Very annoying! Besides why cant it be that I dont see all vital information in this one line of the message tag? For example: "[city.name] built [city.built], next: [city.queue[1]]" Something along this line, so that I dont have to open this message to see what is next. Would be very convient this way!!
when I think again I never need to open the message. Why not cutting that out and make the left-click on the message (in the message tab) a focus instead?
The focus currently doesnt work anyway. When I hit focus and then the city tab the previous selected city is displayed. So I have to additionally click the focused city is that what designers wanted???

Next thing is that sometimes a double click on a city opens the city manager and sometimes it opens the unit tab. Would be a lot better if there would be consistency.

My last request is that please but the army manager item in the right-click infobox on a city even when you have selected the city tab. Its lame work switching to the unit tab and then do the right click. Just the army manager!

And I dont like the new trade manager. When I abandon the trade route my caravan dies???? Why isnt it possible to use the caravan on other trade routes?

Oh and yes it seems that there is something wrong with the population numbers. It says all my cities are below size 30,000. I checked Warsaw and it said they were 252,000!!!

I miss the maximize buttons. Sure I could play around with the specialists for myself, but I dont want that. I want to hit: "Production" and Specialists are assigned that way that I have best production while still not starving.

If you could pay some attention to this things I would be very happy.

...'specially the slavers.. koooool...

So what to do for CTP2? I've tried allocating longer times for the AI to think, didn't help. Maybe 'hmm, what if I play and refuse to build wonders'? Or refuse to build bombard units... *sigh*

I just don't get it... Does people remember the old game Master of Magic? I'm guessing it is about seven years old, but the AI there is still hard to beat... Quite aggressive, combined with a bit of cheating... It still beats me one time out of two. What happened since then? Apparently nothing... Diplomacy, A&A, Advanced Civilization, CTP, CTPII, they all feel like stealing candy from a deaf, blind and overly cordial kid...

And while this is not a bug... It should be treated as a criminal offense...

Everyone hope that MedMod2 will correct these issues - and I believe that it will. After comparing a MedMod CTP1 and the default CTP2, MedMod CTP1 is still better.

CTP2 is better than the default CTP1 though.

I hope the whole 'Scenario Editor' issue will be addressed. At this point, all I can do is place settlers on a map. Placing cities causes a whole host of goofy things to happen. (maybe I am missing something here?) At least give us instructions how to do the basics...

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Big Dave

quote: Originally posted by Apollon on 12-08-2000 02:25 PM "and if you could make it so that you can zoom in and have your units battle in a first person view, that'd be killer wicked sweeeeeeeet. ...'specially the slavers.. koooool... Uhm, you don't fix that in a patch You add it to a game before it's released

Heh.. but I want to jump into my machine gunner in first person and use my mouse to run around and blow everything up like in Quake....

quote: Originally posted by CyberGnu on 12-08-2000 01:21 PM I just don't get it... Does people remember the old game Master of Magic?

That was a cool game!! Wonder if they'll ever make a Master of Magic 2. Hmm.....

Can we also please have a 'turn to next pop'. It really shouldn't have been left out. We should be able to have this as a column in our national management screen also.

quote: Originally posted by MidKnight Lament on 12-09-2000 09:25 AM Is anyone else bothered by how much clicking you have to do with the messages? Example: during my turn I click on the message tab. I click on the message so that I can see all that it's saying. I then close the box (or use the eye). Then I have to right click the message to get rid of it. Then on to the next message! It's a pain in the proverial... ah, neck.

I seem to recall that CtP1 just had msgs pop up to the left of the screen as little buttons. One could L-click to view a message, and then R-click to delete. Much better systems. Beats me why they decided that needed to be changed

1. Release an interim fix IMMEDIATELY to resolve the one major problem which is spoiling a lot of people's games - the saved game corruption problem;

2. Release the planned patch with network enhancements etc in due course, as soon as it's ready.