Arrival-436ad

Collosus-3000bc
Cope’s-2100bc
Shake’s-2500bc
Sir Isaac-2000bc
Darwin’s-1100bc
Apollo-25bc
Leo’s-1650bc

Republic-3050bc
Democracy-1450bc

1-2150bc
2-2100bc
3-2050bc

12-2100bc
21-1650bc

Trade-2950bc
Construction-3050bc
Sanitation-2800bc
Refrigeration-925bc
Automobile-775bc
Computers-375bc
Space Flight-75bc

Hopefully there will be an automated log in Civ3

For a moment I was afraid that we would get only units and no tech at all, and then ... Warrior Code showed up .
But it's simply too easy, there are way too many huts on a map like this.

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AC: 436

Monarchy: -3050
Republic: -2650
Democracy: -1850

Colossus: -2600
Copernicus: -2100
Shakespeare: -2400
Newton: -1800
Leonardo: -1700
Darwin: -725
Apollo: -75

Trade routes: -2150, -1850, -1750

Size 12: -2000
Size 21: -1550 (S25 in -1350)
Size 35: -525

Trade: -3250
Construction: -3150
Sanitation: -2100
Refrigeration: -1000

Automobile: -700
Computers: -575
Space Flight: -100
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Map size: 160x125
Starting location: [60,52]
City location: [74,60]

-4000 Going SE, to the centre of the universe
-3950 N-Archers
-3900 N-Archers
-3850 N-Horsemen, N-Chariot
-3800 N-Archers
-3750 N-Horsemen, N-Horsemen, 2 Gold and 2 Wine! - starting to work the land
-3700 Warrior Code , N-Horsemen, Alphabet
-3650 100
-3600 N-Archers, 50, N-Archers, N-Horsemen, N-Horsemen, 100
-3550 N-Archers, N-Horsemen, 50, N-Horsemen
-3500 Writing, Bronze Working, N-Horsemen, N-Archers, N-Archers
-3450 N-Archers, Currency, 50, N-Archers, N-Chariot, N-Horsemen, Horseback Riding , N-Horsemen
-3400 100, N-Archers, N-Chariot, The Wheel , N-Archers, Ceremonial Burial, 25, 50
-3350 N-Archers, 25, N-Archers
-3300 N-Archers, 50, Code of Laws, Iron Working, ROME
-3250 Literacy, Trade, Map Making, 50, Monarchy, N-Chariot, 25, Feudalism, Chivalry
-3200 Marketplace, 50, Knights, Barb Horsemen, N-Knights
----- Vikings, traded for Pottery, Peace, 14 techs->V, Maps, no Ally , di N-Archers
----- Next tech is 414 turns away ....
-3150 Silver, Masonry, Mathematics, Knights, Mysticism, Philosophy, Construction, 50, di N-Archers
-3100 Dye, 25, N-Legion, 50, N-Knights, 50, N-Knights, di N-Archers, Revolution
-3050 Gold, MONARCHY, Wine mined, di Knights, 25, N-Knights, 50, 50, Barb Horsemen, 50, N-Knights
-3000 Library, University (<-Phi), 25, N-Knights, Barb Horsemen, 50, Seafaring, N-Legion, 50, N-Legion, 50, 50, 50, di N-Archers
----- Carthagians, Peace, 22 techs->C, Maps, Ally
-2950 Settlers, Rome survives!! , di Knights, Bridge Building, The Republic, 3x N-Legion, Astronomy, 50
-2900 Settlers, 50, Engineering, 50, 50, Barb Horsemen, N-Legion, 25, 50, N-Legion, 100
-2850 Settlers, 100, N-Legion, N-Knights, 50, N-Knights, Barb Horsemen, N-Knights
-2800 Settlers, 50, Theory of Gravity, Banking, Medicine, N-Knights, Chemistry, Barb Horsemen
----- Zulus, Peace, 29 techs->Z, Maps, no Ally , 15 techs->V, Maps, no Ally
-2750 University, S2, 50, Economics, Invention , Barb Horsemen, 50, 25, 50, N-Legion, 50, 50
----- Aztecs, Peace, 31 techs->Az, Maps, no Ally , di N-Archers
-2700 Wool, Settlers join Rome ->S3, di N-Archers, 25, 50, 5x Barb Horsemen, 50, N-Knights, 50, N-Knights, 25, Revolution
-2650 Food, REPUBLIC, di N-Archers, 50, 50, 25, 50, 50, 100, N-Legion, Barb Horsemen
-2600 COLOSSUS, Settlers join Rome ->S4, N-Legion, 25, 50, N-Legion, N-Legion, 50, N-Knights, N-Knights, Barb Horsemen, 10 techs->C, Maps, 25 , di N-Archers
-2550 Food, 25, Knights, 25, 25, 50, di N-Archers
-2500 Bank, 50, 4x Barb Horsemen, 100, 50, 2x N-Knights, 25, di N-Archers
-2450 Food, N-Knights, 50, 25, 50, 25, Barb Horsemen, 50, N-Knights
----- Americans, Peace, 30 techs->Am
-2400 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE, We Love , 50, 100, 50, Knights, 100, di Knights, 3 techs->Z, Maps
-2350 Hides, S5, N-Knights, 25, 50, 50, 25, 25, N-Knights, di Knights, N-Legion
-2300 Hides, S6, 50, N-Legion, N-Knights, 3x Barb Horsemen, 25, 100, N-Knights, 50, 50, 25, di Knights
-2250 Hides, S7, N-Knights, 50, 50, 2x N-Knights, 50, 50, di N-Legion
----- Mongols, Peace, 31 techs->M, Maps, no Ally
-2200 Hides, S8, N-Knights, 50, 50, 25, Barb Horsemen, N-Knights, 25, di N-Legion
-2150 Aqueduct, S9, Barb Horsemen, 50, 25, N-Knights, 25, N-Legion, 50, N-Legion, 25
----- Silver to Carthage (d,397), Wine mined, di N-Legion
-2100 COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY, Sanitation, S10, 50, 2x Barb Horsemen, 50, 50, N-Legion, N-Knights, 50, di N-Legion
-2050 Food, S11, 50, N-Legion, 50, 50, N-Legion, 100, 50, di N-Legion
-2000 Stock Exchange, S12, 50, Barb Horsemen, 25, 50, di N-Archers
-1950 Sewer System, S13, 25, 50, 50, Barb Horsemen, 50, di N-Legion
-1900 Wine, S14, N-Legion, 50, 100, N-Legion, di N-Legion
-1850 Food, Democracy, DEMOCRACY, S15, 50, N-Knights, 25, 25, N-Legion, 50, di N-Legion, N-Archers
----- Dye to Zimbabwe (d,486), 4 techs->V, 3 techs->Am, 2 techs->Z,Az,C,M, Carthagians end alliance
-1800 ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE, S16, 50, 100, 50, di N-Legion
-1750 Food, Gunpowder, S17, 50, 25, N-Knights, Gold to Zimbabwe (263), di 2 Legions, Archers
-1700 LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP, S18, 50, di N-Knights
-1650 Food, Explosives, S19, 25, 50, Barb Horsemen, di N-Knights
***** Early Warrior Code strikes again: only Leadership & Polytheism available *****
-1600 Food, S20, 50, N-Knights, 100, di N-Knights
-1550 Food, Leadership, S21, N-Dragoons, 3 techs->Z,V,Az,Am,M, 1 tech->C, Ally(Az)
----- Wool to Zimbabwe (294), Hides to Washington (216), di N-Dragoons
***** only Metallurgy and Navigation *****
-1500 Silver, Navigation, S22, 25, 50, 25, 50, 1 tech->all, Aztecs end alliance , di N-Musketeers, N-Dragoons
***** Metallurgy, Physics, Polytheism *****
-1450 MARCO POLO'S EMBASSY, S23, di N-Dragoons, 2 techs->C, Ally(C), 125
-1400 Food, Metallurgy, S24, 1 tech->all, Carthagians end alliance , di N-Dragoons
***** Conscription, Physics, Polytheism *****
-1350 Food, S25, di N-Dragoons
-1300 Food, Physics, We Love ends , 1 tech->Z,Az,Am,C,M, Hides to Tenochtitlan (210), di N-Dragoons
-1250 Food, Magnetism ** no Electricity **, 1 tech->Z,Am, Hides to Washington (238), di N-Dragoons
-1200 Food, Steam Engine, 1 tech->Z, Hides to Trondheim (d,396), di N-Dragoons
-1150 Hides, Electricity ** no Refrigeration or Railroad **, di N-Dragoons
-1100 Hides, di N-Musketeers, N-Dragoons
-1050 KING RICHARD'S CRUSADE, Conscription, 5 techs->V, 4 techs->Az, 3 techs->Am, Maps, Ally(Az), 125
----- Wine to Samarkand (d,657), di Chariot
-1000 Hides, Refrigeration, di N-Riflemen, Barb Elephant
-975 Supermarket, di N-Chariot
-950 Hides, Railroad, Barb Elephant, 4 techs->Z, 2 techs->Az,Am, di N-Chariot
-925 Hides, Barb Archers, di N-Chariot
-900 Hides, Tactics, 3 techs->V, di N-Riflemen
-875 Hides, di N-Riflemen
-850 Hides, Industrialization, di Cavalry, 2 techs->Am, 1 tech->V,Az
-825 Factory, di N-Cavalry
-800 Hides, The Corporation, 2 techs->Az, di N-Cavalry
-775 Hides, We Love , di N-Cavalry, Barb Musketeers
-750 Hides, Refining, S26, di N-Cavalry, 2 Barb Musketeers, 2 Barb Cannons
-725 DARWIN'S VOYAGE -> Steel, Combustion, S27, 1 Barb Musketeers, 3 Barb Cannons
----- 12 techs->C,M, 6 techs->Z, 4 techs->V, 3 techs->Az, Maps, 100<-Az , 1 tech->Am, di N-Cavalry
-700 Hides, Automobile, S28, di N-Riflemen, Silver to Zimbabwe (357), Barb Dragoons
-675 Superhighways, Electronics, S29, Hides to Ulundi (675), 2 Barb Musketeers, 2 Barb Cannons
-650 HOOVER DAM, Machine Tools, S30, Hides to Zimbabwe (756), di N-Riflemen
-625 Silver, S31, Mass Production, Hides to Zimbabwe (756), di N-Cavalry
-600 Mass Transit, Miniaturization, S32, Hides to Zimbabwe (756), di Engineers
----- 8 techs->Am, 5 techs->Z,V,Az,C,M, Maps
-575 Hides, Computers, S33, di N-Cavalry
-550 SETI PROGRAM, Mobile Warfare, S34, di Engineers
-525 Hides, Robotics, S35, sold Sewer System, di N-Cavalry
-500 Manufacturing Plant, Atomic Theory, sold Aqueduct, di N-Riflemen
-475 Hides, Recycling, di N-Riflemen
-450 Hides, Nuclear Fission, di N-Riflemen
-425 Hides, Nuclear Power, di N-Riflemen
-400 Hides, The Laser, di N-Riflemen
-375 Hides, Communism, di N-Riflemen, traded for Polytheism(Z), 8 techs->Z, 10 techs->V,Az,Am,C,M, Maps, 200<-Az
-350 Hides, Guerilla Warfare, di N-Riflemen, Aztecs: PYRAMIDS
-325 Hides, Labor Union, di N-Cavalry
-300 Hides, Amphibious Warfare, di N-Cavalry
-275 Hides, Espionage
-250 Spy, Flight, Silver to Kaupang (d,605)
-225 Spy, Genetic Engineering, Hides to Zimbabwe (376)
-200 Radio, Hides to Zimbabwe (376)
-175 Advanced Flight, Hides to Zimbabwe (376)
-150 Rocketry, Hides to Zimbabwe (376), all techs->all, Maps, 150<-Az
-125 Combined Arms, Hides to Zimbabwe (376)
-100 Space Flight, Hides to Zimbabwe (385)
-75 APOLLO PROGRAM ** no spacepart option **, Plastics, Hides to Zimbabwe (385)
-50 Hides, Superconductor, Hides to Zimbabwe (385)
-25 Hides, Environmentalism, di N-Cavalry, 2 Hides to Zimbabwe (2x385)
1 Solar Plant, Fusion Power, 2 Hides to Zimbabwe (2x385)
20 S#01, F#01, 2 Hides to Zimbabwe (2x385)
40 S#02, Monotheism, 2 Hides to Zimbabwe (2x385)
60 S#03, F#02, 2 Hides to Zimbabwe (2x385)
80 S#04, F#03
100 S#05
120 S#06, Theology
140 S#07
160 S#08, F#04
180 S#09
200 S#10, F#05, 3 Hides to Zimbabwe (3x385)
220 S#11, Fundamentalism
240 S#12
260 S#13, F#06
280 S#14
300 S#15, F#07, di N-Cavalry
320 C#01, di N-Cavalry
340 C#02, Stealth
360 M#01
380 M#02, F#08
400 M#03, LAUNCH
401 Silver, F#09
403 F#10, di N-Cavalry
404 HANGING GARDENS
405 F#11
407 F#12, di N-Cavalry
408 ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO.
409 F#13, Silver to Kaupang (d,630)
411 F#14, di N-Cavalry
412 MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL
413 F#15
415 F#16, di N-Cavalry
416 J.S. BACH'S CATHEDRAL
418 F#17
419 di N-Cavalry, Mongols sneak attack, M-Armor kills N-Cavalry
420 STATUE OF LIBERTY, Bribed M-Armor
421 Silver, F#18, Bribed Barb Fanatics, Americans sneak-attack, they lose Marines
422 Am-Howitzer, Br V-Howitzer
424 F#19, di Fanatics, N-Cavalry, Zulus sneak-attack, they lose Armor and Marines
425 UNITED NATIONS, Z-Howitzer, Peace(Am,M), Zulus refuse to talk, Americans steal Fusion Power, Barb mass
426 3 Barb Artillery, 19 Barb units in one hit , Br Barb Fanatic, remaining barbs run the other way
427 F#20, Silver to Kaupang (d,647)
428 EIFFEL TOWER
429 F#21
431 GREAT LIBRARY, di N-Cavalry
432 F#22
433 ORACLE
434 di Fanatics, 2 N-Cavalry
435 LIGHTHOUSE, F#23, Peace(Z)
436 ALPHA CENTAURI

Score: 692 (89%)

For the OCC purist, I guess the problem with this game is one of sheer luck. The last one to Invention has a great chance to win! I won't start making excuses that the Leo's tech rolled out so soon (I think it was possible to catch another 21 advances), so long as you lot don't laugh too loudly at the log.

Questions about the Hanging Gardens and Recycling Centre will be explained … in my memoirs.

Thank you to Paul and Solo for providing a very enjoyable game.

Deity/2.42

Arrival 936AD

Colossus-2950BC
Hanging Gardens -2600BC
Copernicus-1700BC
Shakespeare's Theatre-1650BC
Sanitation-1500BC
Isaac Newton-1200BC
Leonard's Workshop-1050BC
Darwin's Voyage-375BC
Refrigeration-275BC
Apollo-500AD

Republic-3050BC
Democracy-1850BC

Trade routes: 2150BC, 2000BC, 1800BC

Rome built on grassland river with 2 Gold, Silk and Whale.

BC YEARS

3950 Chariot
3900 Chariot
3850 Masonry
3800 Archer
3750 Horse x 2
3700 Horse/Archer
3650 Horse x 2 /50g/Warrior Code/HBR
3600 Archer x 2 /50g/Horse
3550 Archer/Pottery
3500 Horse/25g
3450 The Wheel/Archer x 3 /Alphabet/Horse
3400 50g x 3 /Archer x 2 /Chariot x 2/Bronze/100g
3350 Peace with Carts/ CB/ Currency/50g/Archer x 2/Chariot
3300 Chariot/Iron Working/Writing/Horse x 2/CoL
3250 Chariot/Legion/Horse x 3/Trade/50g/25g
3200 Legion x 2 /50g/Horse/Construction/Bridge Building/Engineering
3150 Legion/Literacy/Chariot/25g x 2/Horse x 2/Legion x 5/50g x 2/The Republic/Polytheism
3100 Legion x 2/Banking/Monarchy/Mathematics/Feudalism/Elephant x 5 /50g x 2 Chariot/Invention Ahhggggg!/100g/Peace & Alliance with Americans. Give them Literacy/25g Peace with Mongols
3050 Govt = REPUBLIC / Elephant x 2/Horse x 2/Legion x 4/25g x 3/50g x 2/ROME FOUNDED
3000 Researching Democracy/(Discoveries 175 turns) 25g/ Peace with Aztecs swap for Mysticism! Have decided to stop opening huts this turn. Going to "b" the other settler into Rome and hope I get a nomad.
2950 COLOSSUS - 50g x 7 /25g x 6 /Horse x 3/Barb/More Barbs and more! And a 4th lot!
Legion x 2/Chariot
2900 Temple - 25g x 3/50g x 5; NOMAD near S. Polar Icecap! Barb/ Legion
2850 Library - 50g x 5/Horse/100g/Barb/Chariot/Elephant x 2/25g/Barb/Legion x 2 /Contact with Zulus peace
2800 Dye Caravan/50g x 3/Barb/Elephant/25g/
2750 Hides Caravan - 25g X 2 /Barb and again and more/50g x 5/Chariot/Elephant
2700 Hides caravan/50g x 3/Elephant x 2/Barb and again/Horse/25g
2650 Food Caravan - Disband some troops for the HG!/100g/Elephant/50g x 6 /Barb x 2/25g/
2600 HANGING GARDENS - 50g x 3 /Horse/Barb x 3
2550 size 4 - Market Place - The process of giving away science to the AI is harder than I imagined - they often say goodbye after the first gift!/ Barb x 3 /50g x 6/Chariot/25g x 3/Legion x 2
2500 Size 5 - Colosseum - 50g x 5/Elephant/Chariot/Legion/Barb x 2/100g
2450 Size 6 - Caravan 25g x 2 /50g x 2/Barb x 2/Legion
2400 Size 7 - Aqueduct - 50g x 4/100g/
2350 Size 8 - Bank - 50g x 5/100g/Barb x 2
2300 Settler - 50g x 2/100g/Barb
2250 Size 9 - Caravan - Vikings destroyed by Carts/ Legion/50g x 3
2200 Size 10 - Caravan / 50g x 3 / Elephant x 2/Barb x 2 /100g
2150 Size 11 - Caravan /50g Gift of 50g from Americans/25g x 2/Hides to Washington 270
2100 Size 12 - Democracy researched - 50g x 3 /Barb/25g
2050 Caravan - 50g/25g x 3/Legion
2000 Caravan - Hides to Teotihuacan 294/ Elephant/ Peace with Germans
1950 Caravan - At last Map Making from Germans - Swap maps with Germans!
Maps from Zulus: Aztecs: Americans: Carts: Mongols/Barb/50g
(From here onwards frequent map trading and tech gifts)
1900 Caravan - 100g
1850 Government becomes Democracy/50g
1800 Astronomy; Dye to Tenochtitlan 294g ; Hides to Teotihuacan 290g
1700 COPERNICUS Philosophy giving Medicine/ 50g American gift of 50g: Sell Colosseum
1650 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE: Sell Temple
1600 Caravan
1550 Caravan
1500 Sanitation - Caravan
1450 Sewer System - Now celebrating; Gold to Tenochtitlan 169g
1400 Size 13 - Caravan; Hides to Teotihuacan 320g
1350 Size 14 - Caravan - Research University; Hides to Caralis 390g
1300 Size 15 - University;
1250 Size 16 - Caravan theory of Gravity: 100g from Americans;
1200 Size 17 - ISAAC NEWTON
1150 Size 18 - Caravan - Gunpowder; Hides to Tenochtitlan 394g: Hides to Teotihuacan 197g
1100 Size 19 - Chemistry - Food Caravan; Seafaring from Aztecs;
Hides to Teotihuacan 208g x 2
1050 Size 20 - LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP
1000 Explosives - Still 20 Food shortage. Hides to Teotihuacan 200g ; 50g from Americans;
0975 Size 21 - Caravan
0950 Economics - Caravan; Hides to Teotihuacan 222g
0925 Caravan - Hides to Teotihuacan 222g
0900 Monotheism - Stock Exchange; Dye to Washington 386g
0875 Caravan
0850 Metallurgy - Caravan
0825 Caravan - Hides to New York 232; Hides to Tlatelolco 458g
0800 Caravan - Conscription
0775 Caravan
0750 Caravan - Navigation
0725 Caravan
0700 Caravan - Chivalry; Physics from Aztecs; Hides to Washington 197g
0675 Size 22 - Caravan; Hides to Washington 197g; Hides to Tlatelolco 458g
0650 Size 23 - Caravan; Leadership; Hides to Washington 197g
0625 Size 24 - Caravan; Hides to Washington 197g
0600 Size 25 - Caravan; Magnetism;
0575 WLTPD ceases; Caravan; Hides to Washington 203g
0550 Caravan - Magnetism; Hides to Karakorum: Hides to Washington 205g
0525 Caravan - Steam Engine
0500 Caravan - Electricity; Hides to Washington 205g
0475 Caravan - Hides to Washington 205g
0450 Size 26 - Caravan - Tactics; Hides to Washington 207g
0425 Caravan - Hides to Washington 208g
0400 Caravan - Railroad
0375 DARWIN'S VOYAGE - Industrialisation & Communism
0350 Caravan
0325 Freight - The Corporation
0300 Freight; 200g from Americans
0275 Freight - Refrigeration; Freight to Teotihuacan 250g x2 ; Hides to Utica 290g x 2
0250 Supermarket - Electronics
0225 Freight - Dye to Carthage 566g
0200 Freight - Steel; Hides to Texcoco 486g ; Hides to Tenochtitlan 255; Hides to Utica 290g
0175 Freight - Machine Tools; Hides to Utica 290g; Hides to Karakorum 294 x 2
0150 Freight - Refining; Silk to Tenochtitlan 764g; Wine to New York 577g
0125 Engineer - Combustion
0100 Freight
0075 Freight - Automobile; 300g from Americans
0050 Superhighways
0025 Freight - Mass Production

AD YEARS

0001 Mass Transit
0020 Freight - Miniaturisation
0040 Freight
0060 Freight - Mobile Warfare; old to Teotihuacan 517g;
0080 Freight - Computers from Aztecs
0100 Research Lab
0120 Freight - Atomic Theory
0140 Factory; 250g from Americans
0160 Hydro Plant - Nuclear Fission
0180 Freight - Nuclear Power; Wine to Leptis Parva 1260
0200 Freight - Robotics
0220 Recycling Centre; Gold to Teotihuacan 412g
0240 - Manufacturing Plant; Flight
0260 Freight
0280 Freight - The Laser
0300 Freight
0320 Freight - Radio
0340 Freight
0360 Freight - Advanced Flight
0380 Freight
0400 Freight - Rocketry; Wine to Leptis Parva 682
0420 Freight - 450 from Americans
0440 Freight - Espionage
0460 Freight
0480 Freight - Space Flight
0500 APOLLO
0520 SS#1 - Plastics - Sell Sewer System
0540 SS#2 - Sell Aqueduct
0560 SS#3 - Superconductor
0580 SS#4
0600 SS#5 - Combined Arms
0620 SS#6
0640 SS#7 - Fusion Power
0660 SS#8
0680 SS#9 - Stealth
0700 SS#10
0720 SS#11 - Guerrilla Warfare
0740 SS#12
0760 SS#13 - Labour Union
0780 SS#14
0800 SS#15 - Environmentalism
0820 Component #1
0840 Component #2 - Genetic Engineering
0860 Module #1
0880 Module #2
0900 Module #3 LAUNCH - Fundamentalism

War with Carts and Zulus - turned Fundy built loads of spies, stealth fighters, city walls etc.

During the 36 years after launch both the Aztecs and later the Zulus had attempts at building spaceships. Perhaps I had given a tad too much science away! The Aztecs started building an amazing number of structurals in record time, so an army of spies was sent in to do a little sabotaging. I noticed how easy it was to destroy their spaceship production - spy casualty rates were very low. I will let the espionage testers know this on the relevant thread.

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quote: <font size=1>Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 02-08-2001 08:08 PM</font> For the OCC purist, I guess the problem with this game is one of sheer luck. The last one to Invention has a great chance to win! I won't start making excuses that the Leo's tech rolled out so soon (I think it was possible to catch another 21 advances), so long as you lot don't laugh too loudly at the log.

Maybe we can play this map again with the huts removed. Paul, could you make such a scenario for us?

Edit: same suggestion for OCC#22, that could keep us going for a few fortnights

Invention seldom comes earlier than it did for you! Just helps to prove my point that this game was not that suitable for pure comparison play, but it was worth doing for the pure fun of it.

No laughs from me, either about your log. The integrity of your play, and your landing prior to 1000 with such an unlucky start was most impressive. I also learned something new by studying your log: how to trigger wandering nomads. They are my favorite hut result. Thanks for that tip.

Ribannah

Super idea to remove the huts and replay on this map, though I can't see how to do it with the map editor. My knowledge of setting up games/scenarios is very limited, as you are already aware. Paul must know a way of doing this.

From my hut testing I think you may be able to have more than one NON settler - but on different continents. The only time when they will appear from grassland/plains squares is when the surrounding terrain is poor for food. (The game considers an Advanced Tribe would not be viable) Near or on the polar regions is the best place to find them - though they can pop out from woods, swamp or jungle.

The above is only a guide - more testing to come!

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I think one of the reasons for my late AC landing was unluck (early Invention, followed by little "hut techs", no Monarchy or Republic from huts).
But what else did I do wrong? Perhaps one of you OCC-experts could give me some advice for my next OCC game?

My log:

Alpha Centauri: 1546 AD

Colossus: 3000 BC
Copernicus': 800 BC
Shakespeare's: 675 BC
Newton's College: 475 BC
Darwin's Voyage: 280 AD
Apollo Program: 1120 AD

Republic: 1250 BC
Democracy: 225 BC

Trade 1: 2200 BC
Trade 2: 2150 BC
Trade 3: 2100 BC

size 12: 525 BC
size 21: 125 BC

Trade: 3300 BC
Construction: 3300 BC
Sanitation: 450 BC
Refrigeration: 280 AD
Automobile: 560 AD
Computers: 920 AD
Space Flight: 1100 AD

Being stuck in despotism for so long did you in. Even average luck with invention lets you start as a Monarchy or Republic. WLTDD was your only option, and I see you made use of it. Perhaps more caravans very early, before building Colossus, library, marketplace would have helped you to a better form of government a little earlier. More early caravans speed up early science, and commodities only last so long before you are stuck with only food. Once a city gets to a decent size, Colossus, library, etc. become more effective. But this was a special situation. In the usual OCC game, Colossus first is the best move because you usually have nothing better to do. But in a nutshell, you were held back about 1000 years by bad luck and did the best with what you were given.

The thing that helped me improve my OCC play the most was to study the logs of the players who do the best and to keep practicing on old scenarios while referring to the logs of the best players, so I could compare how I was doing in my own practice games.

All that tribute and all those gifts you managed was quite amazing! I am not good at this. Please clue me in on how you do this so effectively! Are you playing MGE or an earlier version? In my games I only managed one alliance. After that, no amount of free tech would warm up any of the other AI to form one. Also, if I talked to them too often, they just cut me off, but you seemed to get away with your constant contacts. I must be doing something wrong. Can you help?