Thanks, DaveV. I'll get on it shortly.

The next 250 years were peaceful and prosperous. Three new cities were founded, Killdeer, Bear Paw, and Big Mound. Bronze Working was discovered and in anticipation of a need for celebration, Potter was chosen as the next topic for research with an eye towards the Hanging Gardens. Mindful of the potential for unhappiness prior to HG, the people also began a mass effort in build temples. The gods must be appeased! And in an effort to find new lands for settling, our faithful diplomat was sent off to the north, sans compass mind you. Along the way, has so far reported of new whaling seas to the north.

And in a surprise, the barbarian city of Beijing has been described by our seers as the fifth most powerful city in the world.

And now, kcbob bids you all farewell as he, too, rides off into the sunset in search of the princess Ribbanah.

1250 bc. - Another reign completed in peace and harmony. Every city has now started a temple, some are near completion, and a couple have been completed already. Our wise diplomat continues exploration. So far he has discovered a forest rich in animal life, mostly pheasants, he also discovered another ideal whaling spot.

Two of our cities have completed their temple projects and the people now feel that our impetus for expansion has been stifled long enough. We have begun once again to train settlers. The people at Big Mound found it necessary to hurry the training of a warrior band in order to maintain order, oh the trials of rapid growth.

The year is now 1000 bc. and this leader grows weary. It is time for that young brave who has groomed for leadership to take over. Roman, I leave our kingdom in your capable hands.

Save game forwarded to Roman and thoth.

*edit*

I spoke too soon. Roman has finished. That's the good news. The bad news is that he can't get to Apolyton now. Not to worry, though. He sent me a copy of his completed game and I'll forward it to Thoth and Julius. Here's Roman's narrative:

Our isolation from other civilizations coninues, though diplomatic emmisaries have been sent out to establish contact with other civilizations. In the meantime, our civilization is expanding rapidly. Virtually all cities are creating splinter nomadic groups to be sent out for further settlement of the continent. Two such groups were already formed during my 200 year rule. Almost all of our cities have built temples to keep the peasant folk occupied with religios rather than anti-state duties and our cities are reasonably well garrisoned. In my final years I have heard a rumour, while traversing the streets of liberated Cedar Creek that the Chinese civilization has been anihilated by the Greek civilization, but so far I don't know whether other civilizations can indeed exist. All we have met so far were the Barbarians. The rumours, however, might be true. I even heard reports that there are peoples with the knowledge of masonry and literacy and are working on wonders these fantastic technologies enable. To alleviate even the possibility of our backwardeness, I commisioned the building of two libraries in our largest cities. All the other provinces, however, remain true to the vision of the founder of our great Sioux civilization and follow the "ICS" religion.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 02-24-2001 09:43 PM I spoke too soon. Roman has finished. That's the good news. The bad news is that he can't get to Apolyton now. Not to worry, though. He sent me a copy of his completed game and I'll forward it to Thoth and Julius.

Game recieved, played and save file forwarded to Julius, kcbob and the Gits.

775 bc A new King takes the reins of the Sioux empire. Big Mound is instructed to build warriors before building settlers.

750 Our settlers move towards new city sites. The charioteers from Little Bighorn are sent after our eastern settlers to ensure the peasants in the new city work.

675: Wood Lake is founded in a forest with ample fishing grounds.
To the east, Dead Buffalo is built to take advantage of offsore whaling grounds.

650: Riots erupt in Wood Lake, these will be put down by the hasty intervention of Big Mound's warriors. The king steps down, and passes the mantle of rulership.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 02-24-2001 11:36 PM Man, when I asked for serious players, that's what we've got. We're rockin' now. Way to go Thoth.

Game sent to Scouse Gits with copies to Ribannah and Kcbob. We’re playing faster than light ! Is that serious ???

quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 02-25-2001 05:23 AM Game sent to Scouse Gits with copies to Ribannah and Kcbob. We’re playing faster than light ! Is that serious ???

I was starting to wonder if we could actually finish a full round in under 24 hrs.

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 02-25-2001 09:22 AM "Give me Gardens, noble leader!" __________________ The sigless Git

Amen, brother. One with vision appears on the horizon.

quote: Originally posted by Thoth on 02-25-2001 I was starting to wonder if we could actually finish a full round in under 24 hrs.

It's a shame Monday has to roll around.

375 BC Reassigned several workers from forests to roads
350 BC Library in Little Bighorn, Great Library started
325 BC Settlers built in Slim Buttes
300 BC Little Bighorn becomes size 4! Message: "Glorious Sioux are largest"
275 BC Settlers built in Dead Buffalo, Bear Paw and Stony Lake,
... Trade discovered, switching to Marco Polo's Embassy, "Greeks start Oracle"
250 BC Settlers built in Cedar Creek and Wounded Knee

Edit: zipped save sent to DaveV and kcbob

quote: [Originally posted by Ribannah on 02-26-2001 06:54 AM] If only we can beat the Greeks to the Oracle

Well, the Oracle may not do us much good with only one temple...

250 Chariot in Stony Lake is awakened, and given the mission to explore more territory. Many workers moved from grass to forest. Unneeded temples sold in all cities except capital.
225 "Aztecs undertake MPE".
200 Settlers build Little Big Horn to size 5.
175 Little Big Horn to size 7. 60% science, 40% lux to maintain WLTPD (ouch!).
150 "Zulus have nearly completed Lighthouse". Little Big Horn completes MPE ("I met a traveler from an antique land..." ), Aztecs switch to GW.
Zulus, Aztecs peace

code:

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                    Russian Zulu    German  Aztec   Persian Greek   Sioux
Alphabet,           x       x       x       x       x       x       x
Bronze Working,     x       x       x       x       x       x       x
Ceremonial Burial,  x       x       x       x       x       x       x
Code of Laws,       x               x       x       x               x
Construction,                       x                       G4      T3
Currency,           x       x       x       x                       x
Horseback Riding,   x       x               x       R       x       x
Iron Working,       x                                       x       T7
Literacy,           T2              x       T5                      x
Map Making,         x       x       G2      x       G5      G3      T1
Masonry,                    R       x       x                       T4
Monarchy,           T1      x       T4      x                       x
Mysticism,          x       x               x       G6      x       T2
Polytheism,                 x               x               T7      T6
Pottery,            G1              x       T6      x       x       x
Trade,                      x       T3      x                       x
Warrior Code,       x                                       x
The Wheel,          R       x               x               x       T5
Writing,                    x       x       x                       x
                    484     399     359     416     53      570

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BTW. I don't think I've ever built the Oracle. Should I consider that in future ICS games?

quote: Originally posted by DaveV on 02-26-2001 04:33 PM Germans declare war when asked for tribute. Aztecs ignore our feeble threats. Greeks ignore our feeble threats. Zulus: no maps, war. Persians: no maps. 125 Russians undertake GL, Zulus complete Lighthouse. All AIs demand tribute and declare war when I refuse.

Arrrghh! What happened to making friends and exchanging knowledge? Where are our Temples? I should not have left the poor Sioux, they're lead by a heretic!!

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Scouse Git[1]

In the year 50 BC, the people welcomed a new leader, kcbob the Confused. Where were the temples that had been begun under the reign of his great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfather? The people cried out for happiness! “How long, O Lord, must we be unhappy? How long must we do without cable TV, hot tubs, and religious houses of worship?” And so it was decided to begin build caravans in anticipation of building a great wonder of which the world would stand in awe.

Three new settlers were trained and sent out into the world so the kingdom might continue to prosper and grow. And then, in the year 25 BC (how the heck did we know it was BC, anyway?), the golden age of Philosophy began in the kingdom of the Sioux. We thought, therefore we were. And with our next thought, a choice had to be made. Fish or cut bait. Engineering or Monotheism? Leonardo’s or Michelangelo’s? Did it really matter since they were both of Italian extract? Yes! It mattered! The cries of the people were heard and Monotheism was chosen! Fortunately, Engineering was hot on its heels and chosen next.

And then, in a most strange chain of events, cities were founded with nonsensical names. Great River on a plain. Seven Brothers when, in fact, there were only five brothers, one sister, and a dog from Wayside Waifs. And strangest of all, Snake Canyon. Strange? There were no snakes! Lots of frogs and lizards but no snakes! But the scribe digresses.

The great chapel by the artisan Michelangelo was begun in Killdeer, its vary own caravan beginning the glorious project. And none too soon. For with the end of kcbob’s reign, the symptons of the dreaded ICS malady began to appear. The chapel will come none too soon.

In other news this evening, the Russians have nearly completed the Great Library.

This was a quiet time in our history, no new projects were started, no scientific breakthroughs, no wars, just peaceful improvements made to infrastructure, trade routes and expansion. About the most significant event during my rule was the Russion completion of the Great Library, a happening already predicted by my predecessor, that great indian wise man, Chief kcbob.

Turn sent to Roman, cc to thoth and kcbob.

quote: Originally posted by Thoth on 02-26-2001 08:59 PM I prefer to use those sheilds towards Mike's chapel....even more cost effecient. Then go for Theology and grab JS Bach, essential for war as a democracy.

kcbob, could you send me the original 4000 BC save? I'd like to try out the Oracle route for comparison
(And of course I will keep the NONE Settlers, too )

After the death of King John, Roman assumed the throne. Immediatelly he decided that new cities must be built to reduce overpopulation, not realizing the Monarchy limits had been reached. This was a fatal mistake. After commisioning three new nomad groups, a new city was founded. Separated from their family members sent to colonise the virgin lands, people across the Kingdom rebelled. Our mighty treasury of 124 gold was reduced to 7, by attempting to placate the people through temple rushing. The extra temples make our economy operate at a loss, as the upkeep now exceeds income by 1 gold piece per turn. This, however, was not enough to stop the rebbelions, as they were spread across too many cities. Clowns had to be hired to preform in the cities and divert people's attention. To avoid such problems in the future, Roman instructed his political scientists (noblemen/noblewomen, lords/ladies, and such) to develop a new political system designed to appease the people. He termed it the Republic.

In the meantime our emmisaries reported that the barbaric Greeks have finished building the oracle. Our own efforts at Michelangelo's are luckily progressing well. The rebellions did not affect the building process and caravans with marble blocks and extra workers poured onto the building site.

After his 150 year attention span expired , Roman finally fell into an enchanted sleep , while siting on the throne (read "behind the computer").

quote: Originally posted by Ribannah on 02-27-2001 08:41 AM kcbob, could you send me the original 4000 BC save? I'd like to try out the Oracle route for comparison (And of course I will keep the NONE Settlers, too )

Done. Good luck.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 02-27-2001 07:08 PM Done. Good luck.

Dang! The NONE Settlers have already been sacrificed in your 3800 BC save.

quote: Originally posted by Ribannah on 02-27-2001 08:07 PM Dang! The NONE Settlers have already been sacrificed in your 3800 BC save.

Sorry! It never occurred to me to save the original position.

This should horrify the hardcore ICSers.

I went a little overboard on the number of turns . Sorry, got caught up in it.

AD 320: A new ruler, who shall become known as "The Peacemaker" takes control of the Sioux empire. Shaking his head in dismay at the state of the empire, he examines the cities. A caravan is used to complete the Wonder "Michealangelo's chapel".

The Germans are contacted, and peace is made in exchange for Philosophy. Banking is aquired in exchange for Monotheism. The republic is aquired in exchange for Engineering.

The Zulus agree to peace in exchanage for The Republic. Bridge building is aquired for Philosophy. Mathematics for Monotheism.

Peace is made with the Persians in exchange for construction. The Republic and Polytheism are gifted in exchange for the Persian maps.

Peace with the Aztecs in exchange for the Republic.

Greeks accept peace after a gift of Mathematics. The Republic is gifted in exchange for the Greek maps.

340: Our researchers direct their studies towards University. The Zulus begin construction of King Richards crusade.

The citizens of Big Mound celebrate their Love for the new Monarch.

360: Little Bighorn comletes aquaduct in preparation for WLTCD.

380: The new Sioux Republic is declared. Morning Rock, Naples and Issus founded. Copper caravan from Wood Lake to Little bighorn.

400: Cunaxa founded.

460: University discovered. Invention is chosen as the next advance.

Such is the joy of succession games!

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Scouse Git[1]

quote: Originally posted by Thoth on 02-27-2001 09:56 PM This should horrify the hardcore ICSers.

Excellent, great job! Now we can show them