At this point the only real news about CTP is the various player mods. Eventually even those will dry up and blow away as these same players move on to other games.

I'm not a MAC owner or user but I disagree with you on the MAC issue. MAC coverage, as well as Linux, belongs here at Apolyton. That is part of what makes Apolyton so good. They cover Civilization, EVERY aspect of it. And, like it or not, that includes the MAC. Besides that, Apolyton is ADDing MAC coverage to the PC coverage, not replacing it.

As for the MAC preference by the people that put Apolyton together, Baston is who runs the CtP MAC area not Dan & Markos. So yes, he is going to be a bit biased. Just like some people seem to be a bit biased towards the PC.

2) patches and tips from developers are activision's job, not ours

3) we were the first and we are the only to cover CTP2

4) a few days ago we posted a new ctp1/2 interview

5) recently we supported the creation and hosted Don's ctp maps site

As for the more recent release of CTP in MAC format. I admit I did not take this into account when I posted. That of course would have an effect.

Regarding patch releases I never stated it was Apolyton's responsibilty. It is however 'news' and Activision's lack of effort on this front does indeed mean a corresponding lack of news on this. If you don't got it, you can't give it.

Any computer game that's ever been released or ever will be released has a natural life cycle. It's released, it's hot, it's lukewarm, it's dead, it's replaced by the next hot thing. At this point I'd say that CTP still has a bit of life to it but the signs are already there, written as plain as day on Apolyton's main site.

I hope nobody at Apolyton takes this as criticism. It's not. In fact I greatly appreciate the effort that goes into this site on a daily basis. It's quite obvious that Apolyton is a labor of love for the people who work on it.

Its a sad thing when people literally fear speaking their mind about the negative aspects of something simply because they don't want to get in trouble with "the powers that be."

Hey man don't go anywhere. You expressed your opinion, I in turn, expressed my opinion. And Markos listed what they had/were doing to address your concerns. What is wrong with that?

Granted, I might of gone a little overboard. If I did, please accept my apology.

I am just tired of the Apolyton Admin always getting slammed for everything they *supposedly* do wrong. Nobody ever says, "Hey, your doing a good job. I appreciate all the hard work you put in to make this site what it is". Instead, everybody nitpicks about every small, insignificant thing they can find.

Side note: To be clear here, let me say, I am not part of the Apolyton Admin.

Are you insane? No one has attacked you for your criticism. Instead people have simply put up arguments for why they think your opinion is wrong.

There actions do not mean that criticism of Apolyton is unacceptable. Rather, they are just attempting to put forth a different opinion than your own.

I don't see how you have gotten "in trouble" for speaking your mind. Have you been banned from posting in the forum? It doesn't appear that way. Does getting in trouble mean that someone puts forth a point of view that differs from your own?

Simply put: You put up your opinion. Others countered with their own. They hardly squashed you with the hammer of the forum gods. If they really disliked your opinion and were as fascist-minded as you seem to profess they would simply have deleted your post instead of replying to it in a rational manner.

If anyone is being close-minded and unwilling to see all sides of the picture it is you. Get a grip.