The mod I was going to do was a 'through the ages' mod which is sort of what Wes's Medieval Mod is turning out to be.

Too bad you're busy doing other things, you're graphics are the best (better even than Activision's). If you (and/or Katy) plan on making any more sprites that might be useful for my scenario, let me know.

Lord Silvi,

Glad to hear there's an audience for my scenario. But be warned, it'll take me a while to finish it, I've got lot's of other stuff to do as well.

All,

I did some research to find out what kind of units I need and what is already available and I think I'll still need the units listed below. A lot of my idea's came from Age of Empires, maybe someone could convert (some of) those units to CtP-format? Of course units that are designed from scratch (like Morgoths work) are generally of better quality, but for now I'd be glad enough to get anything. If anyone has ancient units that aren't on my list, I'd love to see and use them as well. Well, here's my list (as it is for now):

1. Melee Units
   
   
   
   • a Light Spearman (something in between the Phalanx and Morgoth's Egyptian Spearman)
     
   • a Very Heavy Spearman - more like a lanceman (is that the correct English word for it?), something like the Centurion in Age of Empires
     
   • a Light Swordman (something in betweeen the Legion and Morgoth's Swordman)
     
   • some kind of Heavy Swordman, a la AoE's Longswordman and/or Broadswordman
     
   • a Light Axeman, as a predecessor for Morgoths Huscarl
     
   
   
2. Cavalry Units
   
   
   
   • I'd really like to see the Elephant Archer from AoE converted to CtP format (as Harlan already did with the War Elephant)
     
   • a Chariot and/or a Chariot Archer (Harlan already made one but I don't really like the sprite, it doesn't fit all the other sprites I've found so far)
     
   • I vagely recall someone working on a Camel Cavalry Unit or something like that. I don't remember who it was, but that would be great to have as well
     
   
   
3. Ranged Units
   
   
   
   • one more Siege Unit, I already have the Catapult from the Apolyton Pack but I'd like one more
     
   • two or three Archers/Bowmen, now there's only one Archer available (plus Morgoth's Slinger), but I'll need a few more for my scenario
     
   
   
4. Naval Units

   I hardly have any ships yet, just the Trireme and Fire Trireme that went with the game (and I might use the Longship as well), but I will certainly need more ships
   

   
   
   • some sort of Galley
     
   • a very Light Ship, a la AoE's Scout Ship
     
   • some very heavy attack ship, something like AoE's Juggernaught
     
   
   

1. Naval units (all have equally high priority but should you have time for several units I'd prefer you to make one (or maybe two) ships and then move further down the list)
2. Archer(s)
3. Chariot (and/or Chariot Archer)
4. Heavy Swordman
5. Spearman (either heavy or light)
6. Siege unit
7. Elephant
8. Light axeman

Everything else (more archers, light spear- & swordman, heavy spearman) is equally important and on the bottom of my list.
I could really use #1 & #2, everything else is somewhat less important.

I'll finish WesW's sprites tomorrow so those will be out of the way. Regrding the units. I was thinking of doing a light Javelin man -(Velite type unit) also possibly a light Roman style dart thrower. Katy was doing a Mongol style horse archer which if she doesn't finish it I may have a go and try and complete.

Hey! Did you get the email???
We should really talk--I have most of those units, but they're not converted directly from AoK & AoE because they are way too damn small!
So, they are nothing too fancy (no animations), but 5-facing and proportional sizes to other CtP units.

These are ones I have so far:

Ancient Infantry (color is red)
Phalanx-like unit (gold, silver)
Mid-East Phalanx-like unit
Legion-like unit (blue, silver)
War Elephant (no rider)
War Elephant (rider has spear)
Elephant Archer (a few colors)
Priest (white & gold)
Longbowman (blue)
Chariot (blue, gold)
Chariot (red, gold)
Early Cavalry (blue, gold)
And I have six ancient seacraft done.

I'm planning a generic "tribesman" unit, with an Aip-specific note, to replace the native "warrior" unit--a guy with a big club. Also, a war galley, knight, axeman, skermisher, mounted camel unit, and a ballistic "scorpion" unit.

Doing them up is easy, it's just that they're not sprites yet--can't do it with my program
Any ideas?

Well, I have a map to make. Let me know.
Later.

Oh ok. Yes, I know exactly what you mean. Thanks for doing those units. I don't know of how much use a Mongol Horse Archer will be (after all, it's a mainly European scenario - although maybe Persia will be included as well), I guess I'd have to see it to find out, but the others are highly useful. Well, whatever you do, I'm grateful already

gemini,

Yes, I decided on doing an ancient scenario because you were already making a WWII one and the Roman Age is my favourite part of history after WWII as well.
Anyway, the problem with your CivII idea is that most graphics would require at least some touching up and I'm a complete moron when it comes down to making graphics. Text-file editing and programming and stuff like that is easy but even removing an ugly edge around an existing picture or something like that is too much for me. I have the script Harlan provided and I think I'm even capable of adapting it if necessary but getting even a one-facing unit together is gonna be very difficult for me. So I really need pre-made graphics. Luckily I found out last week how to convert Age of Empire graphics to CtP format and actually that's so easy even I can do it! Even animations should be a piece of cake (although I haven't actually had the time to tried that yet). So together with Morgoth's and maybe Nordicus's units that should solve most of my graphics problems.

wilco000,

What you're describing is tactical warfare and CtP (and Civilization in gerenal) is not so much a tactical game but more a strategic one. And in the strategic area the Romans were quite aggressive. I have been thinking of giving the same or similar units different attributes for different civilizations to reflect this kind of thing. The Greeks were very aggresive so a higher attack value would be justified and the Romans were more defensive so they should have higher defensive values. The Celts always quarrel under each-other where the Carthagians are generally very united, this could also somehow affect certain things (though I don't know how yet). In some cultures religion was more important then in others so the effect of temples might be stronger in some civs. For now I haven't made any decisions in this area yet but I am considering it.

Nordicus,

Yes, I got your email and replied to it (a little late since I was out of town for the weekend). The units sound fantastic, send me whatever you have, I'd love to take a look. Don't worry about the them being sprites, I can take care of that, as long as it doesn't involve much more then adding an alpha channel or something like that.

everyone,

I'm still looking for an idea for one more production improvement and if someone has a great idea for a gold improvement as well that would be great (I have plenty of idea's for that but none of them are really good IMO).