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Morgoth
Warlord
England
Jul 1999
posted January 29, 2000 16:03   Click Here to See the Profile for MorgothClick Here to Email Morgoth  send a private message to Morgoth
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Well finally I saw that my early spy got a 1 out of 10 rating so I guess its time to bow out of the sprite making business.

I'm feeling a bit low at the moment so if the toe rag who gave the rating could explain why I'd appreciate it - I'm curious what he/she was expecting! - but I think that's the end of the story.

Marko's has a couple of my units from before the millenium still to post - so I guess before the next they will be! but now I've other things I need to catch up on.

For you other mod makerS if you need a unit let me know. I'll see what I can do but I'm eagerly awaiting a couple of new games so it depends ontime.

madcow23
Chieftain
London, England, UK
May 99
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Don't bow out of the sprite-making business - your efforts are much appreciated.

May I humbly suggest you bow out of the business of checking the ratings in the Apolyton lists! They're pretty much meaningless.

Am I the only person who really, really dislikes them? If they're actually starting to discourage our valiant mod & sprite makers from their trade, then maybe a rethink might be in order.

MarkG
Apolyton CS Co-Administrator
Greece
b.02-15-99
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NO!!!!

come on man, you cant quit because of an idiot!

first of all, it's only one vote.
second it actually is 4.5 now with 2 votes(the second is not mine )
three, look at the Apolyton Pack: it's the mix of what we call "the best of the best", and it has a 7 rating with 40 votes! not 1, not 2, but 40 votes! I mean, if cd's mod is an 8, why AP is a 7?
four, dont just look at the rating. see that the same file has almost 400 downloads(in 5 weeks, 80 downloads per week)! just like the apolyton pack has over 5000. either just can't be so bad, can it???

John LeMaitre
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Greece
b.02-15-99
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Well, I don't vote for such things normally, but I'd give at least a nine for your early spy.

Really.

skorpion59
CTP Maps Webmaster
Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA, (GMT -6)
May 99
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Morgoth,

No, don't stop. Everybody in the mod business appreciates what you do. Don't pay attention to some guy that wants to make himself feel good by giving you a bad rank. Besides that, (sorry Markos & Dan) not many people actually pay any attention to it, so you shouldn't either. And if you MUST look at it, understand that just a few people voting is not going to give you any kind of accurate judgement.

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Don, Apolyton Junkie

Morgoth
Warlord
England
Jul 1999
posted January 30, 2000 08:59   Click Here to See the Profile for MorgothClick Here to Email Morgoth  send a private message to Morgoth
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Ok, now I've got your attention What sort of units do you think we need more of? I was going to have ago at a couple of naval units next. I've sort of half done a Cog (Medieval boat - well the AVI file is done anyway) and I was then thinking of doing an ACW style Ironclad. Anybody got any deas or preferences after that?

Markos - by the way I just sent an Ancient Egyptian based spearman to you so you now have 3 units from me (Musketeer and ancient heavy Cavalry)

MarkG
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Greece
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yeap, along with 4-5 other ctp files, over 10 smac files and some 30 smac hof saved games....
John LeMaitre
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Greece
b.02-15-99
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I think it'd be cool to have units that look like

A 19th century professor
a Hindu priest
a Catholic Bishop
a witchdoctor type
a Buddhist monk
an improved horse archer

Also, I'm having a problem. I cannot find the sounds for two units, and the game keeps crashing. How do I find them, when I think that they've been compressed into sounds.zfs. Help!

Thanks for sticking around, BTW!

Morgoth
Warlord
England
Jul 1999
posted January 30, 2000 11:42   Click Here to See the Profile for MorgothClick Here to Email Morgoth  send a private message to Morgoth
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John
Katy is working on a Mongol horse archer type unit so that should do as the new horse archer unit.

Not sure about the other units as they aren't 'combat' type units.

Sorry but I haven't looked into the sound files so I'm not sure where they are kept.

Paul
King
Zwolle, The Netherlands
Mar 99
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I just finished the new version of graphics for CD's mod. If I had known you were working on a new horse archer I would have waited with that, but I guess now I'll just have to do a new version when that horse archer is finished. Please let me know if you are working on anything else that could be used for CD's mod so I don't have to come out with a new version every week or so.
Pintello
Warlord
Deland, Florida
b.02-15-99
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Hi Morgoth,

I personally liked your early spy alot, as well as your Javelin Calvary, Nobleman, and Fyrdman. I also liked your other units that have been posted as well, I just haven't figured out how to use them yet. I am looking forward to Katy's Mongol Archer, and I think an improved Seige Engine would be nice. I remember some people saying that when playing on lower resolusion settings it seemed out of proportion to the other units. I personally haven't experienced that because I play at 1024 X 784, but if it would help some people, I think it would be worthwhile to do it.

Timothy Pintello

skorpion59
CTP Maps Webmaster
Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA, (GMT -6)
May 99
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Morgoth,

While you are on the subject of ships, how about an 'attack hovercraft'? (Technically, I guess it is not a ship.) I started using them in Civ2 and want to introduce them to CTP but have yet to see a hovercraft graphic that I wanted to use.

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Don, Apolyton Junkie

WesW
King
Huntsville, Al., USA
b.02-15-99
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I'm glad you threat turned out to be a hoax, Morgoth, or I was going to write you a nasty letter.

Anyway, I have written you in the past about what *I* would like to see as far as new units.
One new thing, though. Would Katy be willing to strip (the armor off the Noble Cavalry) for us?
(Maybe *this* will get her to post on the forums.)

If she *is* willing to strip for us, I would put her (unit) in a new edition of the Medieval Mod, and also the Modern mod.
The unarmored cavalry would go into the Jav. Cav.'s current position, and I would move the Jav. Cav. into the Mounted Archer's position.

And remember, no nasty emails.

Morgoth
Warlord
England
Jul 1999
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Skorpion59 - Can you send me an example of the type of Hovercraft you were thinking of ie the units file from CIV2.

I'll see what I can do.

WesW - If we strip the armour off the cavalryman you would end up with a similar one to the Javelin Cavalry but with a shield is that what you want?

Tim - I was thinking of doing a medieval Bombard. I'll see about adding a new Catapult after but the AOE one that the existing catapult sprite was made from is quite good.

Mark H
Chieftain

Nov 1999
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we could surely use a WWI rifleman...
Mark
Pintello
Warlord
Deland, Florida
b.02-15-99
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Hi All,

I will also put in a vote for a WW I Rifleman. You could also use him in a WW II senario as a regular GI too. The helments were different and so were the rifles, but a WW I rifle and a WW II M-1 rifle look very similar.

Timothy Pintello

WesW
King
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Yeah, Morgoth, that is what I want. Just a mounted spearman with a shield.

About the WWI rifleman; I believe the Americans were the only nation with a semi-automatic rifle in WW II. I know that the Germans used the same bolt-action rifle they used in WW I.

Morgoth
Warlord
England
Jul 1999
posted February 02, 2000 02:55   Click Here to See the Profile for MorgothClick Here to Email Morgoth  send a private message to Morgoth
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WesW
Stabbing spear or throwing spear ie like the Javelin Cavalry but with a shield or like the heavy cavalry without armour? I don't really know of an equivalent to the former as the armour tended to come in before the shield (at least in the Greek/Successor style armies).

I agree a WW1 style infantry is required and a WW1 Tank.

WesW
King
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The shield isn't necessary. I would just like a mounted spearmen, with the thrusting attack.
If you remember back a few months, my initial concept for the ancient mounted assault unit was something like the Native American Sioux. Just a guy on a horse with a weapon, preferably a spear.
John LeMaitre
King
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If you're talking combat units, depending on upcoming mods and whether or not I find the time to make my own (mod, that is...):

Early Balloon
Derigible
Mounted Elephant
Chariot
Barbarian (Gothic or Hunnish) - I was thinking that perhaps it's possible for an early unit to be made that only the barbarian civ could get...
War dog and handler

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