quote: Yes, I'm planning on finishing the readme for it by the weekend, then send it in. Apparently, there's a bug in the New Trade Goods Mod--> when someone tried to look at his trade screen to view what was going where, it crashed and caused an error saying that something was 'not found in asset tree,' and the something turned out to be Walrus, or more specifically, a tga file of a walrus. Have you (or anyone) experienced this? Is there anything in the mod that you've found not functioning properly?

So it should come in very soon, although with Nordicus you never know, he's usually doing at least 5 things at a time (he did tell me he changed that and was going one thing at a time for a change)

1.The original game over-valued sea square but tt seems that Nordicus has overcompensated in the other direction. In 1.3 the sea squares are not nearly as valuable as the land squares, especially in the early going. Having cities on the coast is a defensive liability and in this game being a port does not really add trade. This leaves no real incentive to build coastal cities. Whats more, inland cities with grassland can grow much faster, and hence larger. This kind of goes against the real world where the majority of large cities are on the coast(albeit more because of trade than food or production reasons).

My only other beef is that forest lands have been de-valued a little too much. Forest squares are now the last place I'll put a worker. But, in truth, logging has always been an important industry.

Once again, thank you looking after things during my semi-retirement
Been working on the readme and I realized that I may need some help on it, esp. the installation section. But I'll email you later about it. I made two minor changes with the resources, so I hope these don't muck up your wonderful gl files too much!

I appreciate all the comments and feedback.

ticktock:
Thanks for the comments
I didn't receive much feedback initially and so had to adjust everything however I saw best, for the most realistic set up; it was done originally for an earth map, and resource values had yet to be discovered by Timothy. But after he did, I decreased values accordingly.
But I have looked into your two concerns, and I have to agree--forest production was too low and beach food values were too low as well. So, these have been adjusted.

Thanks again.

Markos:
If everything goes well, there should be two versions available for posting sometime next week--a non-CD version and a Pack version--which will likely be put together over at Chuck's site.

Later,

Welcome back to Apolyton! And, you are certainly welcome - I was glad to do a little bit, but what I did pales in comparison to the amount of hard work that you have put into this mod, let alone for CTP the game.

Anyway, your mod looks like it's real close to being finished. Your readme is shaping up just fine. To all readers of this thread, this may be your last chance to comment on any changes to the trade goods mod!

Hey, thanks. Nice to be back, Chuck.

Think I'll post the readme above a bit later.

Oh, I have updated the readme on the first page. I probably won't post the Pack version of the mod--it's basically the same, just for the Apolyton Pack instead.

Tom.

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"There can be no maximum of creation without a concomitant maximum of destruction, no supreme good without supreme evil"--Heller, paraphrasing Nietzsche.

"The more passion for the argument, the less evidence for it"--Russel.

New Trade Goods v1.4 (Non-CD Version)

Glad to have you back, guy!

Also any news on when this versions will be combatible with WesW's Medieval Mod.

MW:
Hi. Yeah, plenty escapes discussion round here
But the reason for that is because of the addition of movement penalties for other terrains. Attempting to balance it a bit. Using bigger maps probably did influence a bit, however, because of increased time taken to move around--but I have default grasslands set as 33 for my games.
It's pretty easy to change back--let me know if you have any more questions.

Later,

Tom.

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"There can be no maximum of creation without a concomitant maximum of destruction, no supreme good without supreme evil"--Heller, paraphrasing Nietzsche.

"The more passion for the argument, the less evidence for it"--Russel.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks Nordicus for all the apparent hard work that's gone into this.

Hanibal:
Hey, sounds cool. Nah, it hasn't been tested at all in multiplayer--I'm looking forward to the comments about how that goes.
Yeah, if there's anything, just post here or email me (the quicker way).
No, if you use files from one, you cannot use files from the other. The Pack version has CD's stuff as well as others', including the new Age--Industrial Age--and such.

MW:

Hi. Not sure--let me know that goes, I'm curious now.

Regards,

if you set this value to 67 then a unit with 200 move can only move 2 squares.

Along the top is the movement allocated to a unit (this includes movement of 50 which is an interesting option) and along the side is the movement allocated to the terrain (this starts at 4 as this is my proposed space movement and goes up to 250, after this all moves are 1 unless you have a unit with a movement >500)

If anyone wants more values added to this please let me know and I'll see what I can do.

I think the "good-can-die" trigger may have something to do with the fact that if you terraform the terrain square the good is on the good will disappear. Also, if you pillage certain types of tile improvements it will also destroy the good under it.

Regards,