quote: Originally posted by Hassan on 03-15-2001 06:11 PM Since I've started making CTP maps, I've decided that the original Civ_str.txt is too limited for empires to operate on really huge maps, so I've decided to expand the lists. I saw a string on this earlier, but I can't find it now. I'm assuming it's possible to just extend the lists, and I've already expaned the city names up to 60 names, for the Romans, Greeks, Japanese, and Egyptians. Some civs will be alot more difficult to expand, ie. Canada and the United States will easily have more names than a civ like Kwa-Zulu... However I'm going attempt to expand all the lists. I'd like some help in researching specific Civs for names. I'm a pretty good geographer, but it would be nice for those who know a country to help me in their areas of expertise. Let me know if your interested. -Eric "Hassan"

Hi!

I can write you the first 100 biggest (sorted ascending) cities in Germany
(I also inlude the biggest Austrian and Swiss cities at the end):

Germany:
Berlin (3,400,000)
Hamburg (1,700,000)
München (1,300,000.)
Köln (1,000,000)
Frankfurt/M.
Essen
Dortmund
Düsseldorf
Stuttgart
Bremen
Duisburg
Hannover
Leipzig
Nürnberg
Dresden
Bochum
Wuppertal
Bielefeld
Mannheim
Bonn
Gelsenkirchen
Karlsruhe
Mönchengladbach
Wiesbaden
Münster
Chemnitz
Augsburg
Halle
Aachen
Braunschweig
Krefeld
Magdeburg
Kiel
Oberhausen
Lübeck
Hagen
Rostock
Freiburg/Br.
Mainz
Erfurt
Kassel
Hamm
Saarbrücken
Mühlheim/Ruhr
Herne
Ludwigshafen
Solingen
Leverkusen
Osnabrück
Oldenburg
Neuss
Heidelberg
Darmstadt
Paderborn
Potsdam
Göttingen
Würzburg
Recklinghausen
Regensburg
Bremerhaven
Wolfsburg
Bottrop
Heilbronn
Remscheid
Pforzheim
Gera
Offenbach/M.
Ulm
Cottbus
Salzgitter
Ingolstadt
Reutlingen
Siegen
Fürth
Koblenz
Moers
Bergisch Gladbach
Schwerin
Hiildesheim
Witten
Erlangen
Kaiserslauten
Trier
Iserlohn
Jena
Zwickau
Gütersloh
Marl
Lünen
Ratingen
Düren
Velbert
Esslingen
Hanau
Wilhelmshaven
Dessau
Ludwigsburg
Flensburg
Minden
Lüdenscheid

Austria:
Wien
Graz
Salzburg
Innsbruck
Linz
Klagenfurt
Villach
Wels

Switzerland:
Zürich
Geneve
Basel
Bern
Winterthur
Lausanne
Luzern

I'v completed the list for the Canadians, and the Native Americans. Also on the completed list is Greeks, Americans, English, Japanese (up to 45), Romans, and Egyptians.

All these, except the Japanese are completed up to 60. I have a question though, I've found a civilisation.txt in CTPData\default\gamedata\ does anyone know if this has to corrospond with the Civ.txt? I bet it does, but I'd better ask before I go do extra work.

DUTCH "Dutch"

DUTCH_LEADERM_NAME "Willem van Oranje"
DUTCH_LEADERF_NAME "Wilhelmina"
DUTCH_COUNTRY_NAME "The Netherlands"
DUTCH_SINGULAR "Dutch"
DUTCH_PLURAL "Dutch"

DUTCH_CITY_1 "Amsterdam"
DUTCH_CITY_2 "Den Haag"
DUTCH_CITY_3 "Rotterdam"
DUTCH_CITY_4 "Utrecht"
DUTCH_CITY_5 "Haarlem"
DUTCH_CITY_6 "Den Bosch"
DUTCH_CITY_7 "Middelburg"
DUTCH_CITY_8 "Maastricht"
DUTCH_CITY_9 "Arnhem"
DUTCH_CITY_10 "Zwolle"
DUTCH_CITY_11 "Groningen"
DUTCH_CITY_12 "Leeuwarden"
DUTCH_CITY_13 "Assen"
DUTCH_CITY_14 "Apeldoorn"
DUTCH_CITY_15 "Deventer"
DUTCH_CITY_16 "Enschede"
DUTCH_CITY_17 "Nijmegen"
DUTCH_CITY_18 "Eindhoven"
DUTCH_CITY_19 "Tilburg"
DUTCH_CITY_20 "Dordrecht"
DUTCH_CITY_21 "Leiden"
DUTCH_CITY_22 "Gouda"
DUTCH_CITY_23 "Delft"
DUTCH_CITY_24 "Amesfoort"
DUTCH_CITY_25 "Zaandam"
DUTCH_CITY_56 "IJmuiden"
DUTCH_CITY_27 "Alkmaar"
DUTCH_CITY_28 "Hoorn"
DUTCH_CITY_29 "Den Helder"
DUTCH_CITY_30 "Sneek"
DUTCH_CITY_31 "Heerenveen"
DUTCH_CITY_32 "Drachten"
DUTCH_CITY_33 "Delfzijl"
DUTCH_CITY_34 "Veendam"
DUTCH_CITY_35 "Emmen"
DUTCH_CITY_36 "Hoogeveen"
DUTCH_CITY_37 "Kampen"
DUTCH_CITY_38 "Almelo"
DUTCH_CITY_39 "Hengelo"
DUTCH_CITY_40 "Harderwijk"
DUTCH_CITY_41 "Zutphen"
DUTCH_CITY_42 "Ede"
DUTCH_CITY_43 "Wageningen"
DUTCH_CITY_44 "Oss"
DUTCH_CITY_45 "Helmond"
DUTCH_CITY_46 "Venlo"
DUTCH_CITY_47 "Roermond"
DUTCH_CITY_48 "Heerlen"
DUTCH_CITY_49 "Kerkrade"
DUTCH_CITY_50 "Breda"
DUTCH_CITY_51 "Waalwijk"
DUTCH_CITY_52 "Roosendaal"
DUTCH_CITY_53 "Vlissingen"
DUTCH_CITY_54 "Goes"
DUTCH_CITY_55 "Zoetermeer"
DUTCH_CITY_56 "Amstelveen"
DUTCH_CITY_57 "Hilversum"
DUTCH_CITY_58 "Bussum"
DUTCH_CITY_59 "Lelystad"
DUTCH_CITY_60 "Almere"
DUTCH_CITY_61 "Purmerend"
DUTCH_CITY_62 "Huizen"
DUTCH_CITY_63 "Hoofddorp"
DUTCH_CITY_64 "Beverwijk"
DUTCH_CITY_65 "Heemskerk"
DUTCH_CITY_66 "Katwijk aan Zee"
DUTCH_CITY_67 "Alphen aan de Rijn"
DUTCH_CITY_68 "Rijswijk"
DUTCH_CITY_69 "Wassenaar"
DUTCH_CITY_70 "Woerden"
DUTCH_CITY_71 "Krimpen aan de IJssel"
DUTCH_CITY_72 "Ridderkerk"
DUTCH_CITY_73 "Spijkernisse"
DUTCH_CITY_74 "Vlaardingen"
DUTCH_CITY_75 "Schiedam"
DUTCH_CITY_76 "Zwijndrecht"
DUTCH_CITY_77 "Gorinchem"
DUTCH_CITY_78 "Bergen op Zoom"
DUTCH_CITY_79 "Etten-Leur"
DUTCH_CITY_80 "Oosterhout"
DUTCH_CITY_81 "Geldrop"
DUTCH_CITY_82 "Weert"
DUTCH_CITY_83 "Sittard"
DUTCH_CITY_84 "Brunssum"
DUTCH_CITY_85 "Geleen"
DUTCH_CITY_86 "Tiel"
DUTCH_CITY_87 "Zeist"
DUTCH_CITY_88 "Nieuwegein"
DUTCH_CITY_89 "Soest"
DUTCH_CITY_90 "Harderwijk"
DUTCH_CITY_91 "Veenendaal"
DUTCH_CITY_92 "Oosterbeek"
DUTCH_CITY_93 "Doetinchem"
DUTCH_CITY_94 "Oldenzaal"
DUTCH_CITY_95 "Nijverdal"
DUTCH_CITY_96 "Stadskanaal"
DUTCH_CITY_97 "Hoogezand"
DUTCH_CITY_98 "Coevorden"
DUTCH_CITY_99 "Meppel"
DUTCH_CITY_100 "Enkhuizen"
DUTCH_CITY_101 "Volendam"
DUTCH_CITY_102 "Brielle"
DUTCH_CITY_103 "Terneuzen"
DUTCH_CITY_104 "Oisterwijk"
DUTCH_CITY_105 "Hoensbroek"
DUTCH_CITY_106 "Venray"
DUTCH_CITY_107 "Zevenaar"
DUTCH_CITY_108 "Winderswijk"
DUTCH_CITY_109 "Oisterwijk"
DUTCH_CITY_110 "Hoensbroek"
DUTCH_CITY_111 "Venray"
DUTCH_CITY_112 "Zevenaar"
DUTCH_CITY_113 "Winderswijk"
DUTCH_CITY_114 "Raalte"
DUTCH_CITY_115 "Ommen"
DUTCH_CITY_116 "Dronten"
DUTCH_CITY_117 "Emmeloord"
DUTCH_CITY_118 "Veldhoven"
DUTCH_CITY_119 "Maassluis"
DUTCH_CITY_120 "Hellevoetsluis"

BELGIAN_LEADERM_NAME "Leopold I"
BELGIAN_LEADERF_NAME "Leopold I"
BELGIAN_COUNTRY_NAME "Belgium"
BELGIAN_SINGULAR "Belgian"
BELGIAN_PLURAL "Belgians"

quote: Originally posted by Locutus on 03-17-2001 05:52 AM Wes & Paul, Shame on you! Surely you guys should have remembered all the work Nordicus already did in this area for CtP1. He made a file with something like 60 civs and 50-120 cities for most of them. [This message has been edited by Locutus (edited March 17, 2001).]

Hehe, no problem... I really do have fun doing this kinda stuff. I looked over the FTP, and I have a question? Are those English names for the cities, or Dutch? Anyway, I like what you did for the leaders, and speaking of that I'll say this. In CTP2 the male leader for the Turks, is silly! Uthman I(Osman I) was not a Turk!! (Not in the national sense at least). He was the last of the Ottoman Sultans, it was on his watch that the empire fell! ...not what I'd call a prestigious leader, I've taken the liberty to changing it to Mustafa Kemal "adaTurk"--The father of the Turks, and their first "President" if that's what you want to call him. Also you should expand Ibn Saud's name to the full length (Arabic tradition "Abdul Aziz bin Abdul Rahman Al Saud" hehe, I specialize in Arabic and Russian History Anyway for now I'm going to keep my lists to 60, but for sure I'll expand them soon and you're FTP is save in my "Favorites File".

-Oh, BTW--The Dutch will be complete in about five minuites

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Put to "civilisation.txt":
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CZECH #43
{
CIV_LEADER_NAME CZECH_LEADERM_NAME
CIV_LEADER_NAME_FEMALE CZECH_LEADERF_NAME
CIV_PERSONALITY_MALE "PERSONALITY_MEDICI"
CIV_PERSONALITY_FEMALE "PERSONALITY_DEGAULLE"
CIV_PERSONALITY_DESCRIPTION PERSONALITY_DESCRIPTION_SCI_FEW
CIV_COUNTRY CZECH_COUNTRY_NAME
CIV_SINGULAR CZECH_SINGULAR
CIV_PLURAL CZECH_PLURAL
CIV_EMISSARY_PHOTO CZECH_DIPLOMAT_PHOTO
CIV_PARCHMENT 14
CIV_CITY_STYLE 0
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_1 CITY_IS_CAPITAL
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_2
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_3
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_4
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_5
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_6
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_7
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_8
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_9
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_10
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_11
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_12
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_13
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_14
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_15
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_16
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_17
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_18
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_19
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_20
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_21
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_22
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_23
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_24
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_25
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_26
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_27
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_28
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_29
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_30
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_31
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_32
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_33
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_34
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_35
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_36
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_37
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_38
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_39
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_40
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_41
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_42
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_43
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_44
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_45
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_46
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_47
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_48
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_49
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_50
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_51
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_52
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_53
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_54
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_55
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_56
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_57
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_58
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_59
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_60
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_61
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_62
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_63
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_64
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_65
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_66
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_67
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_68
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_69
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_70
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_71
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_72
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_73
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_74
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_75
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_76
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_77
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_78
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_79
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_80
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_81
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_82
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_83
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_84
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_85
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_86
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_87
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_88
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_89
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_90
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_91
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_92
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_93
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_94
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_95
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_96
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_97
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_98
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_99
CIV_CITY_NAME CZECH_CITY_100
}

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Put to "civ_str.txt":
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CZECH "Czech"

CZECH_LEADERM_NAME "T. G. Masaryk"
CZECH_LEADERF_NAME "Eliska Premyslovna"
CZECH_COUNTRY_NAME "Czech Nation"
CZECH_SINGULAR "Czech"
CZECH_PLURAL "Czechs"

CZECH_CITY_1 "Prague" #The original Czech name for this city is Praha
CZECH_CITY_2 "Brno"
CZECH_CITY_3 "Ostrava"
CZECH_CITY_4 "Plzen"
CZECH_CITY_5 "Olomouc"
CZECH_CITY_6 "Opava"
CZECH_CITY_7 "Hradec Kralove"
CZECH_CITY_8 "Ceske Budejovice"
CZECH_CITY_9 "Usti nad Labem"
CZECH_CITY_10 "Pardubice"
CZECH_CITY_11 "Vratislav"
CZECH_CITY_12 "Kutna Hora"
CZECH_CITY_13 "Zlin"
CZECH_CITY_14 "Karlovy Vary"
CZECH_CITY_15 "Liberec"
CZECH_CITY_16 "Most"
CZECH_CITY_17 "Jihlava"
CZECH_CITY_18 "Kladno"
CZECH_CITY_19 "Frydek Mistek"
CZECH_CITY_20 "Chomutov"
CZECH_CITY_21 "Novy Jicin"
CZECH_CITY_22 "Teplice"
CZECH_CITY_23 "Karvina"
CZECH_CITY_24 "Decin"
CZECH_CITY_25 "Znojmo"
CZECH_CITY_26 "Vsetin"
CZECH_CITY_27 "Kolin"
CZECH_CITY_28 "Prerov"
CZECH_CITY_29 "Uherske Hradiste"
CZECH_CITY_30 "Sumperk"
CZECH_CITY_31 "Teplice"
CZECH_CITY_32 "Mlada Boleslav"
CZECH_CITY_33 "Hodonin"
CZECH_CITY_34 "Strakonice"
CZECH_CITY_35 "Pisek"
CZECH_CITY_36 "Tabor"
CZECH_CITY_37 "Pribram"
CZECH_CITY_38 "Litomerice"
CZECH_CITY_39 "Trebic"
CZECH_CITY_40 "Vyskov"
CZECH_CITY_41 "Kromeriz"
CZECH_CITY_42 "Klatovy"
CZECH_CITY_43 "Havlickuv Brod"
CZECH_CITY_44 "Prostejov"
CZECH_CITY_45 "Chrudim"
CZECH_CITY_46 "Louny"
CZECH_CITY_47 "Rokycany"
CZECH_CITY_48 "Nachod"
CZECH_CITY_49 "Beroun"
CZECH_CITY_50 "Rakovnik"
CZECH_CITY_51 "Melnik"
CZECH_CITY_52 "Tachov"
CZECH_CITY_53 "Valasske Mezirici"
CZECH_CITY_54 "Bruntal"
CZECH_CITY_55 "Usti nad Orlici"
CZECH_CITY_56 "Domazlice"
CZECH_CITY_57 "Trutnov"
CZECH_CITY_58 "Jindrichuv Hradec"
CZECH_CITY_59 "Prachatice"
CZECH_CITY_60 "Litomysl"
CZECH_CITY_61 "Velehrad"
CZECH_CITY_62 "Sokolov"
CZECH_CITY_63 "Pelhrimov"
CZECH_CITY_64 "Nymburk"
CZECH_CITY_65 "Svitavy"
CZECH_CITY_66 "Benesov"
CZECH_CITY_67 "Rychnov nad Kneznou"
CZECH_CITY_68 "Cesky Krumlov"
CZECH_CITY_69 "Prachatice"
CZECH_CITY_70 "Semily"
CZECH_CITY_71 "Osek"
CZECH_CITY_72 "Rozmberk"
CZECH_CITY_73 "Tovacov"
CZECH_CITY_74 "Sezimovo Usti"
CZECH_CITY_75 "Horice"
CZECH_CITY_76 "Podebrady"
CZECH_CITY_77 "Dvur Kralove"
CZECH_CITY_78 "Kourim"
CZECH_CITY_79 "Nachod"
CZECH_CITY_80 "Kunvald"
CZECH_CITY_81 "Ceska Lipa"
CZECH_CITY_82 "Trebon"
CZECH_CITY_83 "Sternberk"
CZECH_CITY_84 "Bezdez"
CZECH_CITY_85 "Stara Boleslav"
CZECH_CITY_86 "Kunstat"
CZECH_CITY_87 "Zelena Hora"
CZECH_CITY_88 "Duchcov"
CZECH_CITY_89 "Zatec"
CZECH_CITY_90 "Kladsko"
CZECH_CITY_91 "Horazdovice"
CZECH_CITY_92 "Caslav"
CZECH_CITY_93 "Pirkstejn"
CZECH_CITY_94 "Krnov"
CZECH_CITY_95 "Rozmital"
CZECH_CITY_96 "Loket"
CZECH_CITY_97 "Jablonec nad Nisou"
CZECH_CITY_98 "Breclav"
CZECH_CITY_99 "Blansko"
CZECH_CITY_100 "Sazava"

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Put to "add_str.txt":
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CZECH_DIPLOMAT_PHOTO "updp022.tga"

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Thanks you all, this is turning out pretty nice. Soon It'll be ready to post on the site.

quote: Originally posted by Hassan on 03-18-2001 11:17 PM Nice, The Czech Republic, would make a very nice addition. BTW, I've finished with Portugal and the Dutch. Thanks to Locutus' lists, of course I made some modifications of my own, but not many. Thanks you all, this is turning out pretty nice. Soon It'll be ready to post on the site. -Eric (Hassan)

I'm glad I could contribute. I look forward to your creation.

Glad to see some Czechs! Prague is one of my favorite cities too. For leader, wouldnt one of the great Czech kings be more appropriate? Like Charles IV? (Karel IV)

But, since my wife is Polish:
Who has noticed that the Polish "letterhead" for the diplomatic proposals is NOT the Red and White of the Polish Eagle but rather the symbol for the SLOVAK REPUBLIC? Nothing against the Slovaks, but I would think that the people at Activision would know the difference?

quote: Originally posted by emckinley on 03-20-2001 12:12 PM Hey all, Glad to see some Czechs! Prague is one of my favorite cities too. For leader, wouldnt one of the great Czech kings be more appropriate? Like Charles IV? (Karel IV) Cheers, Elliott

Hi Elliott,

As I see you have a good knowledge of history, bravo.
You're right, Karel IV was one of the greatest man in the Czech history.
He was an Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.
I've choosen T.G. Masaryk as he was our first president. He estabilished Czechoslovakia (a federation of Czech and Slovak nations) in the year 1918 which was called "the First Republic" that was an extremelly prosperous country (economically, democratically, scientifically, ...).

I was hesitating between those two great man and decided for the second one because T. G. Masaryk has livened the Czech nation after hundreds years lasting Austrian oppression.

Elliott,
I'm really delighted you know the Czechs (probably quite the Czech history as well) and you like us and Prague!

What kind of nationality are you?

Yes I see your point and Masaryk is perfectly fine to represent the Czech nation as the president of the First Republic. I was just thinking about one of the great Kings since the game starts off at 4000BC.

I'm an American mutt of sorts - part Irish/Scottish and part German. My wife is Polish however and I've spent a great deal of time in Poland and in Czech as well as Slovakia. They are like second homes to me.
I know very well Prague and have many good Czech friends whom I work with (I am a composer so I know many Czech musicians). I also know Olomouc very well and love the Moravian countryside -- I have visited most of Bohemia and Moravia. I will be going back in June for some work with the Moravska Filharmonie Olomouc. Best of all... will get to drink REAL beer (like Pilsner Urquell, etc.).

So, po Polsku:
Pozdrowiam,

Elliott

quote: Originally posted by LukeCz on 03-20-2001 04:30 PM Hi Elliott, As I see you have a good knowledge of history, bravo. You're right, Karel IV was one of the greatest man in the Czech history. He was an Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. I've choosen T.G. Masaryk as he was our first president. He estabilished Czechoslovakia (a federation of Czech and Slovak nations) in the year 1918 which was called "the First Republic" that was an extremelly prosperous country (economically, democratically, scientifically, ...). I was hesitating between those two great man and decided for the second one because T. G. Masaryk has livened the Czech nation after hundreds years lasting Austrian oppression. Elliott, I'm really delighted you know the Czechs (probably quite the Czech history as well) and you like us and Prague! What kind of nationality are you? Regards, LukeCz

Thanks for the history lessons!
_______________________________
I've already completed my Canadian list, here it is Omni, check it to make sure some of these places aren't too "backwater" (from the Canadian perspective)

CANADIANS_CITY_1 "Ottawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_2 "Montreal"
CANADIANS_CITY_3 "Edmonton"
CANADIANS_CITY_4 "Calgary"
CANADIANS_CITY_5 "Vancouver"
CANADIANS_CITY_6 "Winnipeg"
CANADIANS_CITY_7 "Regina"
CANADIANS_CITY_8 "Toronto"
CANADIANS_CITY_9 "Whistler"
CANADIANS_CITY_10 "Whitehorse"
CANADIANS_CITY_11 "Banff"
CANADIANS_CITY_12 "Sundre"
CANADIANS_CITY_13 "Halifax"
CANADIANS_CITY_14 "St. Johns"
CANADIANS_CITY_15 "Victoria"
CANADIANS_CITY_16 "Niagara"
CANADIANS_CITY_17 "Longlac"
CANADIANS_CITY_18 "Cobalt"
CANADIANS_CITY_19 "Brandon"
CANADIANS_CITY_20 "St. Claude"
CANADIANS_CITY_21 "Battleford"
CANADIANS_CITY_22 "Lethbridge"
CANADIANS_CITY_23 "Moosonee"
CANADIANS_CITY_24 "Vermilion"
CANADIANS_CITY_25 "La Ronge"
CANADIANS_CITY_26 "Chesterfield"
CANADIANS_CITY_27 "Tecumseh"
CANADIANS_CITY_28 "Gatineau"
CANADIANS_CITY_29 "Iron River"
CANADIANS_CITY_30 "Head Smashed In"
CANADIANS_CITY_31 "St. Jean"
CANADIANS_CITY_32 "Sennaterre"
CANADIANS_CITY_33 "Kirkland Lake"
CANADIANS_CITY_34 "Sault Ste. Marie"
CANADIANS_CITY_35 "Oshawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_36 "Whitby"
CANADIANS_CITY_37 "Kingston"
CANADIANS_CITY_38 "Thunder Bay"
CANADIANS_CITY_39 "Prince Albert"
CANADIANS_CITY_40 "Melfort"
CANADIANS_CITY_41 "Saskatoon"
CANADIANS_CITY_42 "Red Deer"
CANADIANS_CITY_43 "Innisfail"
CANADIANS_CITY_44 "Fort McMurray"
CANADIANS_CITY_45 "McLennon"
CANADIANS_CITY_46 "Edson"
CANADIANS_CITY_47 "Dawson Creek"
CANADIANS_CITY_48 "Prince George"
CANADIANS_CITY_49 "Vanderhoof"
CANADIANS_CITY_50 "Kamloops"
CANADIANS_CITY_51 "Clinton"
CANADIANS_CITY_52 "Merrit"
CANADIANS_CITY_53 "Terrace"
CANADIANS_CITY_54 "Prince Rupert"
CANADIANS_CITY_55 "Port Alice"
CANADIANS_CITY_56 "Duncan"
CANADIANS_CITY_57 "Ft. Resolution"
CANADIANS_CITY_58 "Yellowknife"
CANADIANS_CITY_59 "Dawson"
CANADIANS_CITY_60 "Charlottetown"

CANADIANS_CITY_1 "Ottawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_2 "Toronto"
CANADIANS_CITY_3 "Montreal"
CANADIANS_CITY_4 "Vancouver"
CANADIANS_CITY_5 "Calgary"
CANADIANS_CITY_6 "Edmonton"
CANADIANS_CITY_7 "Quebec City"
CANADIANS_CITY_8 "Winnipeg"
CANADIANS_CITY_9 "Hamilton"
CANADIANS_CITY_10 "London"
CANADIANS_CITY_11 "Kitchener"
CANADIANS_CITY_12 "St. Catharines"
CANADIANS_CITY_13 "Halifax"
CANADIANS_CITY_14 "Victoria"
CANADIANS_CITY_15 "Windsor"
CANADIANS_CITY_16 "Oshawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_17 "Saskatoon"
CANADIANS_CITY_18 "Abbotsford"
CANADIANS_CITY_19 "Barrie"
CANADIANS_CITY_20 "Belleville"
CANADIANS_CITY_21 "Brantford"
CANADIANS_CITY_22 "Charlottetown"
CANADIANS_CITY_23 "Chatham"
CANADIANS_CITY_24 "Chicoutimi"
CANADIANS_CITY_25 "Chilliwack"
CANADIANS_CITY_26 "Cornwall"
CANADIANS_CITY_27 "Courtenay"
CANADIANS_CITY_28 "Drummondville"
CANADIANS_CITY_29 "Fredericton"
CANADIANS_CITY_30 "Granby"
CANADIANS_CITY_31 "Guelph"
CANADIANS_CITY_32 "Iqaluit"
CANADIANS_CITY_33 "Kamloops"
CANADIANS_CITY_34 "Kelowna"
CANADIANS_CITY_35 "Kingston"
CANADIANS_CITY_36 "Lethbridge"
CANADIANS_CITY_37 "Medicine Hat"
CANADIANS_CITY_38 "Moncton"
CANADIANS_CITY_39 "Nanaimo"
CANADIANS_CITY_40 "Niagara Falls"
CANADIANS_CITY_41 "North Bay"
CANADIANS_CITY_42 "Oshawa"
CANADIANS_CITY_43 "Peterborough"
CANADIANS_CITY_44 "Prince George"
CANADIANS_CITY_45 "Red Deer"
CANADIANS_CITY_46 "Regina"
CANADIANS_CITY_47 "Saint-Hyacinthe"
CANADIANS_CITY_48 "Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu"
CANADIANS_CITY_49 "Saint John"
CANADIANS_CITY_50 "Sarnia"
CANADIANS_CITY_51 "Sault Ste. Marie"
CANADIANS_CITY_52 "Shawinigan"
CANADIANS_CITY_53 "Sherbrooke"
CANADIANS_CITY_54 "St. John's"
CANADIANS_CITY_55 "Strathcona"
CANADIANS_CITY_56 "Sydney"
CANADIANS_CITY_57 "Thunder Bay"
CANADIANS_CITY_58 "Trois-Rivieres"
CANADIANS_CITY_59 "Vernon"
CANADIANS_CITY_60 "Whitehorse"
CANADIANS_CITY_61 "Yellowknife"
CANADIANS_CITY_62 "Dawson"
CANADIANS_CITY_63 "Banff"
CANADIANS_CITY_64 "Whistler"

-Note-"backwater"-in this context means cities that are perhaps no more than suburbs... insignifigant on the larger scale. I'd never put "Sugar Land" on my list, even though it's in the second fastest growing county in the U.S. and home of Imperial Cane Sugar and a major suburb of Houston. However, I would have put Lexington on my list, or Concord even tough Surgar Land may be bigger and have more economic Importance, because Lexington and Concord, have historic importance. (These lists shouldn't just reflect the end results). "backwater" has nothing to do with percieved or unpercieved economic, social, and technological development. Secondly, I don't think the average American even "THINKS" of Canada (sorry America!). Fortunatly I do. Otherwise the list would never have been attempted.

-Oh, one more thing, I would argue that the U.S. South has more economic importance by far than the North. Yes the "Yankies" may have New York, but that's a problem run completly out of control.
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If your list is good for a Canadian, then it's good for me. I'll apply to my text soon. Thanks!

-Eric aka "Hassan"

quote: Originally posted by Hassan on 03-21-2001 10:43 PM Isn't it transliterated like so?: Dobre Dien!.. Anyway, Dobre Dien ee Dobre Pashalovat' Thanks for the history lessons!

Hassan,

It isn't transliterated like that. emckinley (Elliott) was correct.
That is the Czech language.
There is used Alphabet in Czech but we have added several more letters which I can't use in an English enviroment.
You probably meant a different slavonic language.

If anyone wants to review and help me in completing my Civ_Str.txt, please say so here or e-mail me at Sabaka@alltel.net I need help in the area of ordering cities by importance, and reletive founding dates, as Omni and I were discussing above. For my lists I've only "added" names to the 30 included on Activision's lists, thus they are not all orignal nor perfect.

Thanks

im not trying to be a pest here but im looking forward to the result