- Immigration depends on city happiness. If city[a] is happier than city[b] then we should see some immigration from b to a.
- When immigration occurs it spawns a settler (either as an independant civ or barb maybe) and moves to a happier city and adds it pop point to it. This can be either a city in its home civ or another civ's city.
- If an immigrant can't find a happier city close enough it trundles off to an unexplored area and creates a new city and civ. They can inherit the technologies that its home civ has. Or it could even pronounce allegiance to an existing civ.
- Immigration could also encompass refugees as well. If a civ takes over a city, then there's a chance a refugee settler is created which then heads towards another city of it's home civ.

This could get big folks, but what do you think could go into a project like this?

Dale - Thinking big is just the beggining.

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Author of Diplomod. The mod to fix diplomacy.

represive gov types lead to higher immigration, facto in to unhappiness and refugees .. also could factor in war, some people just don't wanna fight (or so i've heard).. coupled with 'unhappy' folks this then makes sense to me as don't view unhappiness as a prime reason to move over the horizon.

Economics (which drives some unhappiness) was always a big reason to pull up stakes and move on to greener pastures, just not sure how could implement this into the game unless factor in economic state .. and given that the AI doesn't seem to be all that great at building the infrastructure here ... not sure how would factor.

just ramblin'

Immigrants don't usually form new cities, they join existing ones. While a small number cause overcrowding and use benefits, the overwhelming majority of immigrants pay their taxes and add skilled labor to the labor pool (real life fact). So perhaps immigrants/refugees should add additional workers to random cities.

However, it's not just that simple to desert your country...tyrannical regimes will keep a strangehold of their population...although a fair few escape from Communist Cuba.

I think it's a good idea to lose citizens because of unhappiness/pollution, i.e. against your own will. How about having the option to voluntarily drive citizens out as well? Like ethnic cleansing, as an alternative way to deal with pollution....

If anyone has ideas on government progressions, i'd love to see them. Besides the shipped governments, I've already added city alliance and socialism.

quote: Originally posted by Locutus on 02-02-2001 06:00 AM Heardie is probably right. govttype is a string and there's no way to compare strings with eachother, you can only use them in messageboxes.

thats a MAJOR bummer.

code:

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tmpgovt = GovernmentDB(GOVERNMENT_FASCISM);
if(player[0].govttype == tmpgovt) {
     //code if govt is fascism
}

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I'll begin the coding tonight. I didn't have a chance to start on the weekend. To start with, I'll just get settlers immigrating between cities of their own civ. Factors I'll take note of will be:
- happiness
- pollution
- economy
- captial closeness

That's enough to start with.

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Author of Diplomod. The mod to fix diplomacy.

So I tested it with GovernmentDB and it seemed to work too. Wierd, I know. But no-one ever accused me of being sane.

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Author of Diplomod. The mod to fix diplomacy.

quote: Originally posted by Dale on 02-04-2001 05:22 PM I'll begin the coding tonight. I didn't have a chance to start on the weekend. To start with, I'll just get settlers immigrating between cities of their own civ. Factors I'll take note of will be: - happiness - pollution - economy - captial closeness That's enough to start with.

Too bad theres not an easy way to track how often a specific city has been attacked. Alot of people would leave frequently attacked cities. How are you going to use capital closeness? Seems like people would immigrate towards the capital but also far away where theoretically the land would be cheaper (new world settling). Or even go towards towns with goods vs ones without (california gold rush).

You can read fields from the database but you can't change them AFAIK (that would truly be a miracle). So changing city limits based on technology can't be done by simply saying GovernmentDB(GOVERNMENT_COMMUNISM).TooManyCitiesThreshold = 100 or whatever. If it's possible at all it's by making a duplicates of all governments with only city limits different and somehow using SetGovernment or something to change a civ's government. The problem is that this has to happen through messages and it probably forces you to go through a couple of turns of Anarchy first.