quote: Originally posted by Depp on 11-18-2000 01:30 PM The most important thing is that the game is still fun after your changes, remember this. Im quite a history buff myself, but games should primarily be fun. Since the game covers a large historical time outdated units really must have some chance against modern ones otherwise you will become invinceble when getting new techs. But that is something that could be changed by us, adding more units inbetween or something like that...

Ahhhh but hasn't that been how history works? Knights became useless due to the range and power of gunpowder.

How about the polish army in the 1930's riding on horseback against Nazi tanks.

Stealth fighters over Iraq, not only stealthy, but flying above the range of Anti-Aircraft guns.

Rifles vs. Spears when the Europeans came to North America. (Indians did not have bows and arrows until the Europeans showed up)

Advanced Technology *should* be *A* deciding factor.

However... Throw in the ability to steal techs from defeated units. Gang up on an infantryman with a bunch of archers and *maybe* steal some sort of tech along the tree (not nec. gunpowder... but *something* along the way)

I AM happy though that the Civ and CTP games are getting closer to realistic attacks. I still remember the day when I played the first Civilization all those years ago, and I lost 5 Battleships attacking a town that had ONE... yes ONE Phalanx unit defending.

I do like how Alpha Centauri handles government types and the different effects some technologies have. Also, I like the "Active" status of defending aircraft and artillery. Scramble those fighters when a bomber approaches.

I do think that airpower needs a lot of work to make it more realistic. Bombers having 2 YEARS to make a round trip? Come ON! All aircraft should have to attack and land in the same turn. If that means doubling their move rate, so be it. Set them so they can't attack twice. That's fine with me. But a bomber having a 2-turn turnaround... That's just crazy.

Anyone know how many attack runs each bomber made during WWII?

Also. In a MODERN war setting. It should not take 10 turns to get to "the front"

The cargo helicopter is a start

All in all though, despite the wackiness of the tech tree. (I must say I didn't catch the inconsistencies until I got Facism, and then could research Nationalism... and Democracy came a few techs later.)

I'll be looking forward to a tech tree patch!

Also, bring back the old style messages. Hopefully something comparable can be done in SLIC.

A way to view the scores other than at the end of a game would be nice. I also miss the Civilization % from Civ II and the comparison to a world leader. That was cute.

When a human player builds a mech unit, which when built has no fuel requirements, it would be replaced by a fuel restricted version.

The AI is not constrained by the rule, but you don't necessarily *NEED* to see this anyway.

If possible, the AI shouldn't be affected. The engine cannot handle that (I think).

Human "units" should be refueled at cities or at airfields/fortifications (are the more installations in CTP2 than in CTP? Or can you "make" your own?).

For the human: When (I write when, cause it will happen) a tank or mech.inf. runs out of fuel, the units should still be "alive", seeing and defending.

Small, efficient, advanced empires should have an edge over large, inefficient, backward ones. From my understanding, the game does not reflect this at all.