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Jen Dragon
Chieftain
Lubbock, Tx. USA
Sep 2000
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I noticed about 3 posts a day, I hope CTP2 boad isnt drying up and blowing away, the game will go with it.
I keep hoping Activision will put out another patch to fix the fatal crash bugs, I can send them a saved game or two the will crash when they end turn.
I was hoping that continued posting would make them reconsider no more patches. Guess I will have to uninstall the game and pull out Test of Time, hey that one is still on my hard drive.... go figure.
OmniGod
ACS CtP2 Database Manager
Philadelphia, PA, USA --> Really Canadian
Dec 1999
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We're not drying up but working on the mods/maps/scenarios and thus don't have much to talk about until beta testing is going and most of that happens via email. Don't got back to ToT, it's done and this is the next great challenge... contribute, get involved... GET HOOKED
Chris B
Warlord
Canton, CT
Oct 2000
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wow ther, Jen's right. apolyton really has been a ghost town lately. Medmod hasn't been updated in a month. Alexander in 10 days. there are hardly any new forum threads poular. we were swamped with em just a month ago.
phoenixcager
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Singapore
Sep 2000
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I've been wondering the same thing recently. It seems the 'normal gamers' (those that don't do modding) have disappeared.

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Dale
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Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2000
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I've got a more simple answer. I've just been too busy with work recently to be able to post/mod anything.

Oh, and being given Baldur's Gate II on saturday hasn't helped on the time stakes either. It's awesome!

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jkadabomb
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Nov 2000
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BALDUR'S GATE II IS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME(except for counter-strike). Right now I am in chapter 5, btw Dale, KILL YOSHIMO when you get the chance, he is a traitor(find out in chapter 4) also don't join Bhodi, She is really working for the final boss, join the thieves, they are the lesser of 2 evils,(story splits in chapter 3, where you have to decide to join some vampires or thieves)
Gwap
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Largs, Scotland
Jan 2001
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I'm a "normal" gamer (i.e. normal in the sense that I just play the game and download mods from others). But playing on a slow machine between work and private life (yes I try to get one) doesn't really get games finished quickly. That, and me being a rubbish player, of course.

I'm still trying to read up on the Forums daily, and post annoying responses

But I may be the exception; of course, those who don't mod maybe don't think the game has a long attention-grabbing spell. Who knows?

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Chris B
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Canton, CT
Oct 2000
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yer right dale, my getting Age of Kings hasn't helped. But I'll be back on civ the second the new edmod update or next alex scenario comes out.
Dale
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Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2000
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I'll come back to CTP2, just wanna get through BG2 first.

BTW jkadabomb, DONT SAY ANYTHING! I'm still in chapter 2. Wanna finish all the quests before I pay the $15,000. Actually, I find Yoshi a good companion. Though I'll keep ya warning in mind. Yeah, I've already decided to join the thieves not the assasins. Oh yeah, in the Renal quest, did you do Edwin's sub-quest? I took it on then everyone started complaining and moaning so I cracked it and killed Edwin and got the key for Mae'vin's strongbox. Is that what you did?

Chris:
AoK is unreal mate. A great game. Get the expansion pack for it too if you haven't got it.

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Dale
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Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2000
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Double-post.
[This message has been edited by Dale (edited February 14, 2001).]
MrFun
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United States, Iowa
Nov 2000
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A lot of people, like myself, have other things in life besides computer games.

How about - unversity classes, campus organizations, full-time jobs/careers, families, hobbies, etc.

Anunikoba
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Michigan,USA
Sep 1999
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In response to the header:

YES!!!

MarkG
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i guess you're not seeing the discussions in the other ctp2 forums...
The Viceroy
Warlord
London, Great Britain
Nov 2000
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I can't speak for anybody else, but I have just stoped playing CTP2 .. and falled back to CIV2/TOT & SMAC .. I even played CTP1 recently, so I could play a hotseat game ..

To be quite frank .. I feel cheated .. and want little to do with CTP2 at the moment ..

A patch would of course change my mind !! but thats wishful thinking.

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phoenixcager
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Singapore
Sep 2000
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phoenixcager
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I too, have dug out my CtP1 to play PBEM. I'm still playing one game of CtP2, but it gets more boring each day. It's like playing an opponent who's not interested in the game.

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wittlich
Warlord
Fayetteville, NC, USA
Dec 2000
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quote:

Originally posted by Chris B on 02-13-2001 08:05 PM
wow ther, Jen's right. apolyton really has been a ghost town lately. Medmod hasn't been updated in a month. Alexander in 10 days. there are hardly any new forum threads poular. we were swamped with em just a month ago.

Your right about the Apolyton CTP2 site being a ghost town - but the Apolyton CIV3 site is going strong

I, and most likely other civers, basically gave up on the CTP2 site when Activision "threw in the towel."

Now the forum discussions at the CIV3 side of the house is hopping...everyone is waiting with baited breath of its eventual release

Of course, even though I now "camp out" at Apolyton's CIV3 Site, I still stick my head into the CTP2 forum just to see if anything new is happening - just because there will not be anymore offical patches being released for CTP2, that doesn't mean the talented folks here in the forum won't post any new game modifications.

My burning question concerning these mods is the (hopefully) eventual release of a mod which will make the multiplayer aspect of CTP2 playable...I guess I can always dream, can't I?

skorpion59
CTP Maps Webmaster
Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA, (GMT -6)
May 99
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Personally, I don't understand why somebody would want to spend 2 years talking in a forum about a non-existing product. But then again, I thought the 3 month wait for CtP2 was stretching it a bit and got a little old. The Civ3 forum does/did have a valid reason for being but it is a bit too much like a Civ-centric OT forum for my taste. Luckily for Apolyton, I am in the minority here so the Civ3 forums should keep going for quite a while.
Roman
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Bratislava, Slovakia
Sep 2000
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The Civ2 forums are certainly not dead. Check them out!
yin26
King
Work in Seoul, Korea. From Los Angeles.
Apr 99
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Personally, I don't understand why somebody would want to spend 2 years talking in a forum about a non-existing product.

I think many people simply enjoy knowing that they might (...juuuust might...) have some input that gets taken up by Firaxis for Civ3. And even if not, it's simply quite interesting at times to consider how a game like Civ3 ought to be or could be designed.

Also, many (all?) of us feel that Civ3 is really our best and perhaps last chance for a long, long time to see a civzilization-type TBS game done well. Some even believe that if Civ3 fails, this genre is in major trouble. So I guess you can say it's quite suspensful to those of us who've been playing the games for years...

Anatolia
Chieftain
Andong, South Korea
Nov 2000
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I stopped looking at these forums a couple of weeks ago. Partly because I was on my honeymoon and partly because I stopped playing CTP2. I was pretty happy with my first game but while playing my second game I thought, "Ah, this is just like the first game." I really don't feel like playing anymore. I wonder if it's because CTP2 is dull or if it's just too similar to Civ2 which I played for a long time. I'm sure I will buy Civ3 when it comes out and I'm curious whether I will quickly tire of that like I did CTP2. Anyway, I'll probably see you all again when Civ3 comes out and I return to get lots of great information at Apolyton.
jkadabomb
Warlord

Nov 2000
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Hey Dale, Edwin gave me Mae'Vers key. He is probably the best mage in the game that you can get. Although he is evil. I am in chapter 7. Almost about to beat the game. I crushed the shadow dragon and fire dragon quite easily. Fire dragon gives you Holy Avenger +5. I got some awsome weapons, Silver Sword +5(AN AWSOME SWORD, KILLS TONS OF ENEMIES INSTANTLY, IN FACT PROBABLY HELPED ME DESTROY THE DRAGONS SO EASILY), Carsymor(holyavenger)+5, The Equilizer +5. To tell you the truth the dragons are pretty easy since they fight alone with no allies. Also I am going to get the Crom Faeyr, probably the best weapon in the game. And you need Keldorn to use the Holy Avenger +5(Carsymor +5) He is the only paladin in the game.
wittlich
Warlord
Fayetteville, NC, USA
Dec 2000
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quote:

Originally posted by yin26 on 02-17-2001 05:44 PM
I think many people simply enjoy knowing that they might (...juuuust might...) have some input that gets taken up by Firaxis for Civ3. And even if not, it's simply quite interesting at times to consider how a game like Civ3 ought to be or could be designed.

Also, many (all?) of us feel that Civ3 is really our best and perhaps last chance for a long, long time to see a civzilization-type TBS game done well. Some even believe that if Civ3 fails, this genre is in major trouble. So I guess you can say it's quite suspensful to those of us who've been playing the games for years...

I couldn't have said it better Yin!

Darkknight
Warlord
Ireland
Nov 2000
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Well i've got exams coming up aswell and oh yeah i've just bought CeasarIII for £10. Excellent game. And i'm just getting into things with blender Made a couple of simple games with it Yeah! And yeah I haven't played CTP2 in about 4 days. And in there somewhere i've actually had time to sleep.

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Dale
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Melbourne, Australia
Dec 2000
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Originally posted by jkadabomb on 02-18-2001 02:11 PM
Hey Dale, Edwin gave me Mae'Vers key. He is probably the best mage in the game that you can get. Although he is evil. I am in chapter 7. Almost about to beat the game. I crushed the shadow dragon and fire dragon quite easily. Fire dragon gives you Holy Avenger +5. I got some awsome weapons, Silver Sword +5(AN AWSOME SWORD, KILLS TONS OF ENEMIES INSTANTLY, IN FACT PROBABLY HELPED ME DESTROY THE DRAGONS SO EASILY), Carsymor(holyavenger)+5, The Equilizer +5. To tell you the truth the dragons are pretty easy since they fight alone with no allies. Also I am going to get the Crom Faeyr, probably the best weapon in the game. And you need Keldorn to use the Holy Avenger +5(Carsymor +5) He is the only paladin in the game.

I just killed Edwin after everyone started whining. Also, I remembered that Edwin and Minsc wanted to kill each other in the first BG. I have Minsc, being the best ranger in the game.

The Red dragon was EASY man! I think the shadow one is harder. BTW, did you know you can kill the dragons pretty easily by (when their circle is still blue) pausing the game, talking to dragon then attacking dragon, unpausing, let them attack for 5 seconds (count it), pausing, talking then attacking dragon, letting them attack for 5 seconds and so on. They never attack you. (It's a bug I take it).

Oh, and Keldorn does have the Carsymor +5. Minsc has the Dragon Slayer halberd. I have the Dragon Slayer longsword. The other three are missile. I've made a few other special items but have them stored. BTW, have you made the Iron Horn yet?

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jkadabomb
Warlord

Nov 2000
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Dragon weapons suck so you'll want to get rid of them soon as you get better weapons anywyas. BTW Minsc and Edwin would work just fine in a party although they may argue alot.
jkadabomb
Warlord

Nov 2000
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Alright my party, me-equalizer +5, Keldorn Carsymor +5, Minsc-Silver Sword +5, Valygar- Flail of Ages +3 right hand-left hand Katana+3(best katana in the game, an awsome sword).
Gwap
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Largs, Scotland
Jan 2001
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This thread is starting to become Other-Gamey.

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Jen Dragon
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Sep 2000
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Thats partly the point, with so many other good games CTP2 is just slowly being accepted as a loss and spending time on games that are good or Great. BG2, is an incredible game, I got combat mission for Christmas and its also an incredible game not to mention the good games, Crimson Skys, Sea Dogs, even Sim Coaster.
I absoulutly cant wait for CIV III as some one above said It will probably be the last chance for a good civ game. CTP3 wont happen and CIV IV will be 5 to 10 years down the road. Empire Earth although real time looks interesting, I hope they do that well. I still havent got to get past the 1900 era of CTP2. I must be doing something wrong, probably keeping my saved games to close to the current time, but I hate to go back and play 20 turns again and again, a couple of turns ok but then I get in the AI crash loop.
phoenixcager
King
Singapore
Sep 2000
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...or you could wait for the Mod wizards to work their magic, which should be sooner than that.

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Civtech25
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Feb 2001
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Thanks for spoiling BG2, you idiot!

quote:

Originally posted by jkadabomb on 02-13-2001 10:46 PM
BALDUR'S GATE II IS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME(except for counter-strike). Right now I am in chapter 5, btw Dale, KILL YOSHIMO when you get the chance, he is a traitor(find out in chapter 4) also don't join Bhodi, She is really working for the final boss, join the thieves, they are the lesser of 2 evils,(story splits in chapter 3, where you have to decide to join some vampires or thieves)

Gwap
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Ok, in that case, buy Europa Universalis, and enjoy a real challenge

Not to mention a bunch of developers who actually appear to enjoy user-input, and get funded to patch things. Thumbs Up

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Dale
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Dec 2000
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Originally posted by Civtech25 on 02-28-2001 11:21 PM
Thanks for spoiling BG2, you idiot!


Actually, what we've been discussing doesn't wreck the game. Before you decide to choose between thieves or Bohdi, there's a discussion with both sides and if your character is evil it's more favourable with Bohdi, or if you're good it's more favourable with the thieves. It TELLS you (pretty much) which side you should join. Also, in the thieve's guild, there's a thief in there (can't remember which one) that tells you he knows Yoshimo and that he is known as a trecharous liar who sells out his companions. There was no real surprise, just who he sells you out to.

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sulla
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of the Conservative Republican Party of Apolyton
Feb 2001
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The game is still quite new. Unlike Civ 2 most people here are still beating the game there first few times around and are trying new strategies. With the Civ 2 forum people have played so much I jsutdon't think htey can stand playing it any more they can only talk about it.

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Skeeve
Settler
Washington Township, NJ USA
Mar 2001
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Originally posted by sulla on 03-02-2001 12:17 AM
The game is still quite new. Unlike Civ 2 most people here are still beating the game there first few times around and are trying new strategies. With the Civ 2 forum people have played so much I jsutdon't think htey can stand playing it any more they can only talk about it.


Agree with that one Sulla. I've only had CTP2 for about a month and I'm still in the honeymoon phase. I've won 4 games so far (each progressively harder). Now I'm trying the different ways of winning, e.g. diplomacy, high-score, etc. I guess I'll try the impossible level soon, but at the moment I'm a bit Wary. Then come the MODS and the Scenarios. Oh joy!

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