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Topic: Does capturing a city give an enemy tech? |  |
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Captain_Dave
Settler
...of River Tiles!
Nov 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 09:53
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I'm a very experienced Civ, Civ2 and SMAC player, never got CTP1 because of the bad press. I'm playing my second game of CTP2, from what I read in these forums about the AI I thought I could handle the hardest level. So now it's 600 AD and I'm WAY behind on the powergraph. Since I'm playing on a gigantic map, I've only encountered 1 other civ (Americans), and have begun my war of conquest. I think they're ahead of me in tech, because he had a catapult (alone outside a city, too bad he didn't garrison it, cause it coulda done a lot more damage to my army  ), unless he found the catapult in a ruin. I haven't got catapults yet, and I've captured 3 of his cities so far without getting a tech advance.Of course the "manual" doesn't cover this, and I don't see a setting in the game options to toggle "techs on conquest" a la SMAC. So I assume you get a tech with conquest, and the Americans ain't ahead of me, right? Please tell me I'm right, or I'm gonna start seeing Machine Gunners plowing down my Pikemen when one of the other 7 AI's find me!  |
Carrion
Chieftain
CA
Nov 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 13:37
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Yes you can get technologies from capturing enemy cities. I'm not sure if it happens every time though. I have gotten techs from cities i capture. But that usually catches me up to the Computer AI. I've never been more than 2 behind any 1 opponent so I'm not sure. |
Paul
King
Zwolle, The Netherlands
Mar 99
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posted December 13, 2000 14:09
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I believe you have a 50% chance of getting a tech advance when you capture a city. But I'm not sure of the exact number. |
skorpion59
CTP Maps Webmaster
Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA, (GMT -6)
May 99
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posted December 13, 2000 14:58
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In Const.txt,
CAPTURE_CITY_ADVANCE_CHANCE 0.5 # chance of gaining an advance when capturing a city (assuming they have advances you don't)
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Captain_Dave
Settler
...of River Tiles!
Nov 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 15:17
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OK, thanks guys. Hmm, 3 cities captured, no techs yet. Seems like the odds have been against me thus far in this particular game. Maybe I'll have better luck trying to shock that damn monkey at the top of my screen  |
romelus
Settler
Dec 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 19:13
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woah now this is scaring me . i've finished quite a few games and have never gotten any techs from captured cities. i checked my const.txt file and it's set to 0.5. i knew the ai was ahead in tech (way ahead) so why didn't i get anything? |
Darkknight
Chieftain
Ireland
Nov 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 20:05
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I've wiped out two civs capturing all their citties and knew they had slave labor(i never get it)(they had mines)all toghter 11 cities and didn't get any techs?------------------
" mind over body " |
Rebel Rick
Chieftain
Asuncion, Paraguay
Oct 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 20:47
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unless it means 0.5 % ????  i face the same problem... |
Alpha Wolf
Chieftain
Chicago Illinois
Nov 2000
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posted December 13, 2000 22:59
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i havent gotten any either and I raised mine to .75. Guess its time to try 1 and see what happens.------------------
History is written by the victor. |
Shooter
Settler
Dec 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 01:41
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It's probably disabled, I've never gotten any either, and I haven't seen evidence of the computer taking any of my techs. |
phoenixcager
Prince
Singapore
Sep 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 02:51
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Maybe they didn't have any techs that you hadn't researched. |
Coflek
Settler
England, Bracknell
Nov 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 05:26
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I conquered 6 cities, and didn't get any tech.
They sureley have tech that I don't so I suppose this option is disabled. |
Celestial_Dawn
Prince
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Apr 99
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posted December 14, 2000 08:59
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I've conquered 42 cities and I've never gotten any tech.Impossible level difficulty. And about 12 of those city conquests were when I was still behind in tech. This was when I spent a good many turns trying to get them to trade techs with me and they refused. By time I got to Nationalism and Spies, I was already ahead in tech so I stopped bothering with diplomacy (because it didn't seem to be working anyway:P) Honestly, I thought they disabled it for CtP2. After my first 6 captured cities or so, I stopped wondering whether I'd get any. If it isn't disabled well, on Impossible it doesn't seem to work. |
Captain_Dave
Settler
...of River Tiles!
Nov 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 10:24
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Well, I changed the value in const.txt to 1.0, captured a few more cities, still no techs. And yes, I'm certain they have more techs than I, cause I've encountered 6 of his catapults, which I don't have yet. And I sure need them, my poor knights, samurai and pikemen are taking HEAVY losses.Then I bumped the value to 100 to see what happens, captured another city and STILL no captured techs. I'm playing Impossible difficulty level. I guess I'll have to concentrate on getting spies so I can catch up! |
Captain_Dave
Settler
...of River Tiles!
Nov 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 10:32
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Carrion,When you captured techs, what difficulty levels were you playing? Maybe it's just disabled on Impossible. |
Jen Dragon
Settler
Lubbock, Tx. USA
Sep 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 10:36
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I thought there was an optional rule when you started the game to pick if you wanted tech on caputed cities or not. |
Captain_Dave
Settler
...of River Tiles!
Nov 2000
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posted December 14, 2000 11:01
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No, I just checked the options in the game start menu, it doesn't have anything like that.I know SMAC had that option, and didn't Civ2  It's been a LONG time since I've played Civ2, and I can't imagine myself disabling techs on conquest anyway. |
Sabre2th
Settler
Ballston Spa, NY, USA
Nov 2000
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posted December 15, 2000 15:22
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yeah -- civ2 let you disable it. i still haven't gotten any techs from conquest in ctp2 (on any difficulty level). Sabre |
Captain_Dave
Settler
...of River Tiles!
Nov 2000
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posted December 15, 2000 15:25
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Hmmm, did the first CTP let you capture tech? I never played it, so I wonder if they designed the game this way or if it's a bug! Either way it bums me out! |
Alpha Wolf
Chieftain
Chicago Illinois
Nov 2000
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posted December 15, 2000 15:34
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In CtP1, you could find new techs upon taking a city.------------------
History is written by the victor. |
romelus
Settler
Dec 2000
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posted December 16, 2000 22:51
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i'm positive the AIs were ahead in tech cause i had embassies with them, however i've never discovered anything from conquering 200+ cities in the games i've played. |
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