Like a lot of other people, I started with the typical board games, and found Avalon Hill's Civilization in 1986. I simply loved it, and played it on and off for another 8 years. I went on to other strategy board games and became Secretary of my school's 'Tactical Games Club'. I eventually got a pc in '93, and my club president introduced me to [i]Civ{/i], which I immediately liked and got hooked to. After which playing other games like Colonization and CIvnet came readily. I also spent quite a lot of time on Civ2, which I played throughout my University years. Then I finally found CtP last year and have been playing it since. Now I'm waiting for CtP2 to come to the local games shops.

And that's my story....

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 12-04-2000 01:30 AM There goes my theory that CTP only appealed to kiddies.

Hey, I heard that you were trying to get a free copy of the game, AH....so that brings up the mean age quite a bit, doesn't it?

Going through TPG II (ThePerfectGeneral)(ms-dos), Risk (ms-dos), CIV II, Ceasar III, SMAC to CTP and in a short time - I hope - CTP II.

Had a halfpart in both Ceasar and SMAC - but sold the SMAC to get the full Ceasar.

By the way - the old dos TPG II had a advantage, that I miss in these new windows games: You actually could see longer over sea, grassland and plains than you could in forrest, hills and mountains! As far as I remembered, default line of sight was 3, but varied from 2 to 10-15?? (can't remember any more). This LOS was reduced heavy in forrest, hills and mountains. If situated the right place you were actually able to ambush a much stronger unit - and get away after the attack.

quote: Originally posted by aebbeka on 12-03-2000 08:54 PM Do you use CTP2 as a teaching tool? Who needs textbooks!? Hehe.

Haven't tried it yet, maybe if there are some good historical based scenarios created.

Played Risk as a kid (and learned the fine art of diplomacy then) - D&D in college - discovered 'Axis and Allies' a few years later, and then created a whole series of increasingly-complex hex-board empire building and war scenario games with some friends (we always felt we could do it better than Avalon Hill), until I got my computer in Dec '98 and bought CTP.

Yeah, I'm a gamer for life!

CIV/CTP games are awsome but it will never beat a good old game of chess.

Civ, great games!

I can honestly say that I am a hopelesly addicted computer game player who cannot wait to get his hands on the next game. Right now I am contemplating to acquire SFC2, SE IV, Stars!2, WC3, & Emperor Dune.

Regards,
hroman21

So there you have it. Drag Racing fans can and will play Civ games too!

I also owned and played ATARI 2600 games, ATARI 800 Computer games, and PC games (8088 cpu types). Our family enjoys a good game of quality and entertainment value. AI's are of little interest to us. In fact, those are the first civilizations we attack and beat the crap out of in our Hot Seat games! Then we get serious amongst ourselves.

If a game gets good reviews in areas that interest me, looks good in its description and is not one player (or internet, LAN play) only (this applies to war and Civ type games only), we buy it and try it.

We own a Play Station and a Super Nintendo. We don't do much with the SNES any more, but still mess around with the Play Station.

We do play games like the SIMS (initial and Livin' Large), Sim City 3000, Railroad Tycoon(Deluxe/Gold), Risk I and II, PGA Golf games, Myst & Raven(mostly my wife and daughters), Commandos to name a few. Many of these are single player, but we play Civ games in Hot Seat Only. I have played some single player, but usually become bored and quit as does my wife, ddaughters and son.

I also play 'Rock Guitar' and own a 1976 Gibson Les Paul Custom. I grew up on Creedance Clearwater Revival, Jimi Hendrix, the Stones, Santana, Zepplin, The Beattles and Neil Young. I also listen to Montrose, and lots of Van Halen. I enjoy playing many of the Van Halen tunes, Hendrix, Montrose, Black Sabbath, DIO, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Lynard Skynerd, Neil Young, Creedance, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton, Spin Doctors, The Smitherines, Joe Satriani, Tom Petty, etc, etc (I think you get the idea).

In other words...computers and games (of nearly all types) are not "just for nerds" anymore (Ha Ha) or "kids" either.

In closing, I must say that this was a very interesting subject post. Nice idea.

The two Web Sites I visit most are:

NHRA.com and this one.

I helped my son with his site (a racing site)

http:\\BigJeffWeb.homestead.com\welcome.html for those interested in drag racing photos.

quote: Many of these are single player, but we play Civ games in Hot Seat Only. I have played some single player, but usually become bored and quit as does my wife, ddaughters and son.

I am the opposite of you Mike the Nuke. Gaming is a very personal interest for me. But then again, I am introverted by nature. I doubt your imagination resources if you get bored whenever you're gaming alone.

quote: Originally posted by Mike the Nuke on 12-06-2000 09:52 PM I'm 45 and am retire form the U.S. NAVY. My wife is slightly youger (still in her 30's). My daughters, who also play the game with us (Hot SEat Mode only) are in their teens (High School, 16 and 18 espectively). My son who also plays in teh Hot Seat games is 13. His friend who also plays in our Hot Seat games is about 15 (Freshman in High School I think). ... So there you have it. Drag Racing fans can and will play Civ games too! I also owned and played ATARI 2600 games, ATARI 800 Computer games, and PC games (8088 cpu types). Our family enjoys a good game of quality and entertainment value. AI's are of little interest to us. In fact, those are the first civilizations we attack and beat the crap out of in our Hot Seat games! Then we get serious amongst ourselves. ... I also play 'Rock Guitar' and own a 1976 Gibson Les Paul Custom. I grew up on Creedance Clearwater Revival, Jimi Hendrix, the Stones, Santana, Zepplin, The Beattles and Neil Young. I also listen to Montrose, and lots of Van Halen. I enjoy playing many of the Van Halen tunes, Hendrix, Montrose, Black Sabbath, DIO, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Lynard Skynerd, Neil Young, Creedance, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton, Spin Doctors, The Smitherines, Joe Satriani, Tom Petty, etc, etc (I think you get the idea). In other words...computers and games (of nearly all types) are not "just for nerds" anymore (Ha Ha) or "kids" either. ...

I'm in the same age group as Mike (48), but we adopted our kids relatively late in life, they're ages 8 and 5, so we're not quite at the joint gaming stage with them, although the 8-year-old is starting to get into chess, which is nice.

quote: Originally posted by JasonL on 12-07-2000 11:02 AM I'm in the same age group as Mike (48), but we adopted our kids relatively late in life, they're ages 8 and 5, so we're not quite at the joint gaming stage with them, although the 8-year-old is starting to get into chess, which is nice. What really gets me in Mike's post is that Les Paul Custom. Man, talk about green with envy. Our musical tastes are pretty much the same. Montrose! Mike, as if the kids on this site needed any further confirmation that we're geezers.

Hey...we're not old. We are only as old as we feel. I still play softball, football (with the kids in the neighborhood), basketball). I listen to the new stuff too..everything except RAP! I never liked that 'dico junk either' Ronnie Montrose still plays as far as I know. Sammy Hagar went to VanHalen, then left back to his own band. The Stones ar OLD!

I bet there are others out there like us who haven't seen this forum or haven't answered. It definately was a fun topic. Keeps the site fun.

quote: Originally posted by Dominous Nemo on 12-01-2000 09:44 PM Just out of curiosity I wonder how old are the people that play this game? I am 24. Am I an old fart that like’s to play a kid game or is this normal?

Good topic!

I am 'only' 23 and started with civ1 in 1994... haven't stopped since.. civ II, SMAC, CTP1, and awaiting CTPII which is not shipped to such far away places as Berkshire on the day of it's UK release...

I'm 30 now (although not for much longer)and came to Civ in '95 - it was Civnet,pre-installed on my first new computer for 10 years (since my Spectrum).

quote: What has imagination got to do with the enjoyment of playing startegy games against humans. I don't consider myself as 'wide open', but I'm not an introvert either. I work in the 'real world' not the imaginary one. People make the 'world go around' as far as society goes, not individual games. I find it more enjoyable to compete against humans in strategy situations. I think I'll leave it at that. I really don't what to step down to you and be inflamatory.

Well, when I play Civilisation, I'm not merely playing a clever strategy game, I am playing the role of an Emperor in charge of a nation. Infact, when I play, I AM that Emperor. I play Chess for a challenge with friends, but for me: Civ, SMAC, Colonisation, MoOII, despite being strategy games, are purely role playing games for me. I am an unknown meglomaniac with an artificial outlet. I hope I never get bored of such games, otherwise I might have to actually get into politics or something....

Muwahahahahaha!

Bkeela.

I played Civ2, Moo2, SMAC, CTP and... CTP2

I played also a lot of Axis & Allies (board game)
and i want to known if anyone have try the
computer version ? should i buy it ?

risk was a favorite then axis and allies then nabunagas ambition and genghis khan for nintendo back in the late 80s then i found civ1 , ceaser (sucked) civ2 was good i play every strategy game i can get my hands on though. I have to say my all time favorite is still genghis khan for nintendo, against friends it was a blast. board games back in the school days of the 80s with friends was a blast too. a1 just isnt a good friend especially in ctp2. :^)

Been playing wargames since Blitzkreig and before.

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Big Dave

And now I have time, I mapmake.. just a hobby...

quote: Originally posted by Carrion on 12-07-2000 10:11 AM Geez Mike! You have actually made me gelous! Your daughters play CTP! Why can't I find girls like that to go out with? The world needs more of these girls!

There are girls, and women, who play this type of game. I happen to be one. The reason you can't find us to go out with is because we're cloistered in our computer rooms playing these games. Go figure.

Thought I was getting old.
I am 26 going 27, computer engineer and works with Business Systems (Do you have a opening in the gaming industry call me) .
Got a cold so are staying for myself this weekend, and what a good thing that I got CTP-2, all these strategy games have been great when you have to stay home for any reason. And I also like when you can stop your hectic life nowadays for a few hours and just sit down and dvelve into these games. Girl-friends usually objects though. Girl Friends come and go the computer games are there for life.

Started playing on the VIC-20. Games wasn't that fancy and nice looking but they had gameplay. This thread brings back a lot of memories of good old classics.
You get a bit nostalgic.

And so the Computer Game addict goes on..
WARNING: BELOW are my rants of some OLD Classic Strategy games.

Mule (My first strategy multiplayer game)

Lords of Conquest (Also multiplayer)(Fun, simple strategy game)

Empire (The first real civ game.) Spent alot of time building maps on this one. (Multiplayer aswell, great game to bad all my multiplayer games ended with somebody giving up after realising I had to many battleships. Really fun fleet battles. Cruisers, Battleships and Carriers. Good AI aswell.
Really Great Game.

War Game Construction set (I beleive it was called this you could edit and create you own scenarios)

UMS I-II Universal Military simulator (Boy the graphics where ugly)

CIV I (Now we are talking)

Colonization (Loved the cheerful music when you found the fountain of youth still remember it, more of this in games, more great music)

MOO (The Master of Orion) And they are making a MOO3

MOM Master of Magic, really great magic/civ game some have tried to copy it but nobody have really done a good job) Copies. (Lords of Magic, Age Of Wonders)

MOO2 (The best strategy game in space yet, They are still not as good as the down to earth CIV games)

There is so many I spent lots of hours on.
The ones I remember right now is listed below.

Warlords I-III, Colonization, Conquest of the New World
Pax Imperia, RailRoad Tycoon I-II, Heroes of Might And Magic I-III, Imperium Galactica II, Ascendacy, Supremacy.

And not only strategy games, Roleplaying Games for which I spent hours on making maps.

Heart of Africa
Bardstale I-III
Captive (Cool Scifi Roleplaying Game)
Wizardry (one of them)
Ultima Underworld
And all those TSR & SSI games Pool of Radiance, Azura Bonds. SSI and Microsoft where big stars in the computer gaming industry those where the days.
Might And Magic I-VIII
Baldurs Gate I-II
Fallout

And all other games. Dune, C&C I-II, Red Alert, Starcraft, Doom I-II, Quake, Half Life, Delta Force, Rainbow Six....
the list goes on. Don't play that much anymore real life taking to much time..

And to those that say playing computer games is lonely, my experience is totaly diffrent meet alot of friends that way. But one thing I found out is that those that don't play games don't understand us that play games.

To conclude this. My most profound experience with civ was when I went to University and had a great time with friends at a club and I meet this really beautiful girl that I started to talk to and she somehow got into the subject of her playing CIV games. I changed subject because you really don't wannt to start talking civ in a club, there is a place for everything.
To bad maybe I would have been more lucky if I had continued talking about CIV.

But the fact remains there is alot of us out there.

Enough ranting. If I didn't had a cold you would not
be reading all this nostalgic rambling.

/Mathias

"Life is but a game and sometimes hope I could load up an old saved game"