And in actuality I'll probably come back and vote after I consider the choices for a while.

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Big Dave

Whats more important to me however is that the scenarios use as much SLIC as possible, so that they will not only be different from the regular game, but serve as examples and building blocks for scenario creators. Hmm maybe I should have voted for fantasy.

Anyhow a short list of scenarios Id love to see.
Colonization

Cold War -- You've got MAD a scenario around it would cool.

Ancient -- Alexander

Modern -- With the world as it is today, of course thats close to Cold War.

American Civil War -- With the South having slaves, more experienced units to start, and the North having greater production. Maybe include England somehow.

Rome -- Everybody wants to be caesar.

I support ideas as Cold War, Napoleon, or Fallout-like, still I would like to see some scenario where war is not the main backbone.
Just to suggest some theme:

1) run to the moon (discover the needed tech on appropriate tech tree, with or without other countries help, and having enough production points for enough time).
It could be a variant of the Build the starship to Alpha Centauri, but starting right in modern era (after WWII).

2) italian renaissance (some little states deeply involved in trade, diplomatic move and limited fights, while arts and sciences grow to industrialization)

3) age of exploration (some limited and dedicated exporer units must survey - and survive to native encounter - every square of the globe)

4) save the earth (quickly solve a scenario where production is growth so high that pollution is almost out of control. Tune down production, improve eco-enhancement, clean up polluted area and save the world from global warming, trading and treating with less developed country to join your efforts)

5) world peacekeeping (stop every war using diplomacy, money or - as a last resource - your U.N. peacekeeping forces - in a defined turn limit, with the limit to free back every city you conquer in a few turns - you can't conquer the world just to force the peace)

May be my suggestion are a bit crazy and have some limits to be implemented in an interesting way, but I would like to suggest a different point of view about this scenario approach.

Any comments and critics are welcome. Supports and agreements are more welcome, indeed

I would also like some non-war scenario but well it should at least involve some fighting. Stacked Combat is just a great concept.

But I agree I would definately like a "Colonization" Scenario. Maybe one where you dont start with a Settler somewhere, but with a Ship that has a Settler and a Musketeer loaded. So to say a "Colonization(tm)" cover.

In other words, take advantage of the sprawling nature of the CtP subject to model features of other popular game-periods in the CtP mode, both combat and non-combat.

I think Grumbolds right whatever scenarios Activision puts out will probably only use units already made for CTP, pity that. That doesn't mean that the scenarios won't be fun.

Of course I can say it enough, if activision gives us the right tools we can make tons and tons of great scenarios.

1. Cold War 1985 (full world displayed)
2. WW2
3. Napoleon
4. MiddleEast
5. WW1

At least for the first two scenarios it wouldnt be necessary to create new units --> easy scenarios

quote: Originally posted by Sophanthro on 08-14-2000 11:27 AM Hmm why does this thread always get displayed at the top of the Forum.

Mark has installed a hack that keeps the thread of his choice at the top of the forum.

quote: I think Grumbolds right whatever scenarios Activision puts out will probably only use units already made for CTP, pity that. That doesn't mean that the scenarios won't be fun. Of course I can say it enough, if activision gives us the right tools we can make tons and tons of great scenarios.

In reply to a comment of mine stating that if Activision were smart they'd have gotten some scenario builders here at Apolyton Lt. John said that we should recognize the names of some of the scenario builders.

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Big Dave

quote: Originally posted by MarkG on 08-07-2000 05:25 PM 1) an "all of the above" choice in this poll was useless. what good will such a vote mean? since you vote, it already means that you do want scenarios in the game... 2) multiple choice or "weighted list" polls are not doable. in the end though, a weighted list will exist from the votes of all the people please choose the one you prefer the most and add a comment on what you might like second, etc...

Mark..you are soo true..and YES!!.. A VOTE..constitutes..having a definitive ability to choose ONE!!!..but maybe more 2nd place choices..needed..or wanted..I agree with your assumption that "ALL-OF-THE-ABOVE"..doesnt fit well in a "VOTE"..category.

Keep up Great work keeping us Straight Partner!!!
DrDanger..A.K.A.PATTON...

FAILURE is an OPTION....

Although I have a feeling that Activision will include one scenario from each of the categories in the poll, my choices would be:

December of 1941
The British Empire, Victorian period
The Punic Wars
The crusades (2nd-4th, probably)
The Spanish vs. the Mexica

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Big Dave

quote: Originally posted by Big Dave on 08-20-2000 08:34 AM I disagree. I think that if there are 5 scenarios released with the game that a fantasy scenario would be very important. I wouldn't play it, I'm a history buff. But I feel that it would make a great sample for mod makers to show how to do things that might not be shown in other scenarios.

I have to Agree with Big Dave on this..After All..IF you have that Fantasy Scenario...you might be able to get some EXTRA info to alter or "MOD"..something that might fancy your interests!!..And Like BIG DAVE..I wouldn't play it..(maybe to see how it's put together)because I too enjoy History...!!

If they call an Orange an Orange........

Why dont they call a Banana a Yellow?

I think releasing scenarios WITH the main game is a great idea!
Not that again we get them promised with a patch!

And I hope this time Activision will not cut off support after the 2nd patch. I hope they keep on working on it and even if there are no bugs they could release maps and/or scenarios. Or maybe some official Mods.

I would certainly like to see a "modern" whole-world scenario that starts at the time of the formation of the Germany and Italy (circa 1870).

I'd like to see an American colonies scenario with a map of eastern North America, starting around 1600, and including scheduled landings of settlers in historically accurate times/locations, including Natives, English, French, Dutch and Spanish, and with some kind of trigger that causes a revolt, after which time you have the option of playing the role of the revolting colonists instead of the mother country.

I would like to see an expansion of Rome scenario with a map that covers the historical max extent of the empire, but that starts with Rome controlling at most the Italian peninsula, perhaps much earlier.

I'd like to see a Dark Ages scenario that covers western Europe and includes major tribes and civilizations including Visigoths, Ostriogoths, Franks, Vandals, and Romans. As the Roman you would try to minimize the onslaught, and as a Germanic tribe you would try to establish a sizeable feudal monarchy.

I'd like to see an Age of Exploration scenario starting circa 1500 where your goal at the English, Spanish, Portuguese, French or Dutch is to colonize the New World, Africa and Southeast Asia/Pacific. (The previous American one is specifically intended to lead to a revolution.)

The Fictious City of Activision had previously made an error..in the construction of the wall..but has since learned and now has a superior wall....and Loyalist subjects...like DrDanger....Fervently and Passionatly Defend The City of Activision....and dump pails of Dung on those who would attempt to Dishonor her!!!!!!!

LOL..what ya think..eh?..c'mon..wouldnt this be a great scenario?

P.S....
I do hope that all you folks understand this would be only a scenario..because I'm sure this would stir too much controversy within the "Big 'Ole Dumb-butts community"

JUST FOOLIN.....

God Bless

Brother Bruce

DrDanger..
The current Red October..The Former Patton!!

Quote Just like my hero from Texas)

Over the Hills and thru the wooods..

The witches would have bizarre mostly stealth type attacks with unpredictable results...turning soldier units into cattle, cursing land so it yields no resources, or cursing units to paralyze them or give a combat penalty for a few rounds.

Scenarios are great - would love to see:

WWII: Everybody want to kick Adolph's butt - this scenario must be executed brilliantly.

Future battles in space: Space cities and all associated units. Must be great fun.

Namaste
Johnny

WWII a must.

MAD - India/Pakistan is intriguing, Cold War, Middle East.

Age of Exploration

Crusades

Nuclear Scenarios: the Cuban Missile Crisis

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I can't wait to click on a button with VOTE on it (I'm not an American and election in the Netherlands are still two years away, so I must have some substitute on this site)

Bye,