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Topic: What Would You Like to Find in Your First Goodie Hut? |  |
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Everyman
b.02-15-99
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posted April 30, 2001 20:55
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Realistically, I always hope for a two-movement unit to expedite exploration and enable me to tip more goodie huts.Ideally, I'd love to receive Monarchy. |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted April 30, 2001 21:15
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Well... If I already have my first city down, I would take a non settler, or a free city... If not, a two movement unit would be nice  If I haven't placed it down yet, just give me that two movement non unit  |
War4ever
b.02-15-99
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posted April 30, 2001 22:00
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yup what he said.... to be more specific i would like a chariot or elephant from a hut with a city down...... i will take the non settler over the city but really now....... who wants to be greedy If its a high shield city down i will take 100g to pump out a couple of settlers before size two takes effect. if its science then i will take alphabet with cheers and WC with jeers But most of all if i have a city down i will take a non unit to go after my unfortunate neighbor can you say second city toast! |
Marquis de Sodaq
b.02-15-99
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posted April 30, 2001 23:25
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It's hard to beat those NON settlers, but who could argue with a village that teaches you monarchy? Apolytoners seem to loath archers, but a NON archer for your first city is good - no need to build a defender for a few centuries at minimum = more time to build what you want.------------------
"There is no fortress impregnable to an ass laden with gold."
-Philip of Macedon |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted April 30, 2001 23:27
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Well War4... Your answer is far more complete than mine So to quote somebody I know...
"yup what he said" |
SlowwHand
b.02-15-99
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posted April 30, 2001 23:54
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Nomads.
It seems advanced tribes are always a square off, like next to a river instead of on it.------------------
It's In The Way That You Use It
Tuatha De Danann Tribe |
rah
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 08:41
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"but who could argue with a village that teaches you monarchy?"When we play MP we restart if host has techs. If my fist hut is monarchy, I'm in big trouble, since it means I didn't find any huts early. I'm with Ming and War4 on this one, (and it seems most others)
Non-2-movement unit if before first city. (an archer to protect my cap is almost as good)
Nomad after. But I won't whine about a city.
More 2-movements units,
Any tech that I'm researching.
100 gold is underated. Buying up settlers early can make a big diff. RAH
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Paul
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 09:17
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2-move non-unit for the first two huts. After that, the tech I'm currently researching, a couple more 2-move non-units or 100 gold would be nice. Problem is, 100 gold is rare. Usually you get 50 or 25. |
drake
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 09:32
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Depends on the game:Normal game- settlers
Duel type game- offensive military unit 2x movement pref. |
oedo
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 09:46
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100 gold - as in every other hut too. |
DaveV
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 10:49
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A chariot. An early two-move unit can help you find and tip more huts, which can yield more units, who tip more huts...Exploring the map early helps in a lot of ways, and having several fast units is the best way to explore. The chariot can also double as a barb killer if necessary. |
towigg
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 11:02
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I prefer the Settlers to getting a City, since usually the City is in a bad location. When I get a City from a hut in a bad location, I have it build a settler at Pop 1 and found a new city in a better location, or happy to get NON Settler to do work.A 2 move unit is always nice for your first hut for more tipping, as mentioned in other posts. |
solo
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 11:16
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A secret passageway to all the other huts. |
Juggler
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 12:44
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New settlers and units (except horsemen) always come in-handy.
However, you need 50gp or 100gp when you want to build a wonder and just dont have the money to build it. |
Bird
b.02-15-99
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posted May 01, 2001 17:28
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100 gold. Must be nice.  |
Juggler
b.02-15-99
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posted May 02, 2001 11:56
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"Weeds grow in empty ruins. This village has long been abandoned." - I just love it when that happens.
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JamesJKirk
b.02-15-99
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posted May 02, 2001 12:44
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Originally posted by rah on 05-01-2001 08:41 AM
"but who could argue with a village that teaches you monarchy?"
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I'd rather learn the ancient art of nuclear fission from a hut... Back nearly a decade ago when I first started playing Civ1, in my first game, I walked over a hut and barbarians popped out, so I assumed the huts always did that, and never checked another one for like a couple of years  |
towigg
b.02-15-99
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posted May 02, 2001 13:00
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I would love to find Jennifer Lopez in a hut. |
Juggler
b.02-15-99
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posted May 02, 2001 13:22
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...with a horde of barbarians. |
ancient
b.02-15-99
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posted May 02, 2001 21:41
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whats betterthan finding a new city? if you have just started out an extra city is always good.. |
Mixam
b.02-15-99
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posted May 02, 2001 22:42
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Originally posted by ancient on 05-02-2001 09:41 PM
whats betterthan finding a new city? if you have just started out an extra city is always good..
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Well my opinion on this is that the new city is good if you get it b4 you found your capital. Otherwise it is usually too far away and corruption and waste are bad (unless you ICS) and it is usually in a bad location anyways. I am with the guys that want a good non 2 movement unit from the first hut for more hut tipping and exploration. |
War4ever
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 09:59
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Originally posted by ancient on 05-02-2001 09:41 PM
whats betterthan finding a new city? if you have just started out an extra city is always good..
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this is true..... and although most cities are placed poorly..... sometimes an early city has minimal overlap and is actually a benefit ! When this happens i let out a big war whoop and proceed with agression |
towigg
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 11:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Juggler on 05-02-2001 01:22 PM
...with a horde of barbarians.
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A couple of months ago, J Lo dressed up as a barbarian in Rolling Stone. She made a very good looking Barbarian that would be fun to find in a hut. |
Everyman
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 14:46
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In one game, the first hut I tipped gave me an advanced tribe, much to my delight. However, in the very next turn, a barbarian horseman pillaged the undefended city and since my initial two settlers were still busy tipping huts, I lost the game. I finally got to see the end screens -- cool. |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 15:16
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What am I missing here. Two people have now mentioned getting a city from a hut prior to laying their first city down. I thought that it was common knowledge that before you laid down your first city, all you could get was money, units, or sciences. (no barbs, no settlers, no cities) Yes, I've heard the tales of people who go hut hunting and finally got a city close to AD...Again, what am I missing here  Are we playing the same game? |
Scouse Gits
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 15:43
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Good question Ming! I think some posters' memories are playing tricks. The very first time I visited this site I recall reading how somebody found Mass Production in a hut - mass production of myths! Before any city is built the only outcomes from villages are:
Gold or a Unit or a Science - and you must have the prerequisites for the tech. No Monarchy without Alphabet/Code of Laws/Ceremonial Burial SG(2) |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 16:36
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Yes SG... I remember the famous "I got Mass production from a hut posts"  I also remember those who took my goody hut hunt approach far beyond 2000bc and claim to have gotten a city before laying a city down. And I also remember experimenting after hearing that. I tried resetting a hut before placing my first city down over 1000 times, and all I got was gold, a unit, or a science that I had the preregs for... Now granted the year was about 2500BC... so I can't discount that it might not happen later in the game, but I did it at that time frame because that is about the latest I would ever go using that strategy. Maybe they were playing TOT |
SlowThinker
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 18:32
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{goody huts}
{}{SlowThinker}------------------------------
This is a post with keywords. See The Great Library: a hierarchical structure" thread. |
War4ever
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 20:08
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Ming i have had the mass production thing happen as have i had my first city come AFTER 1500bc from a hut! more than once....... and my eyes only play tricks after a case of beer..... |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 20:22
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quote:
Originally posted by War4ever on 05-03-2001 08:08 PM
Ming i have had the mass production thing happen as have i had my first city come AFTER 1500bc from a hut! more than once....... and my eyes only play tricks after a case of beer.....
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Stop it... that's how urban legends continue
But watch the beers, or you may pass out during a game like I did  |
Mixam
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 22:44
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I don't think I have ever gotten a nomad b4 laying down a city but I have gotten an advanced tribe b4 laying one. It could be that it was near or after ad because a few times during experimenting I have wandered that long. Sorry I don't recall the date but it can happen |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 23:20
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If it was around AD... who knows for sure. Maybe somebody should do some tests... (anybody want to get your name in the GL )You aren't the first person to claim to have gotten a city around AD. |
ColdWizard
b.02-15-99
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posted May 03, 2001 23:28
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i usually prefer a 2 move unit so i can go pop more huts, but settlers are good too.
i've gotten my first city from huts in at least 3 different games and at least 1 was an mp game. i wish i could remember more but with my memory and the length of time i've been away from civ...
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Dissident
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 00:22
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horseman of course. within my first 3-5 huts I like a non settler. but that is hard to do sometimes. I'll take elephant of course |
East Street Trader
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 07:08
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I went through an entire phase of explore forever on large maps without founding and once, just once out of a lot of games and a very large number of huts, I got an advanced tribe. And it was early, BC for sure.I remember it because it had no palace and didn't offer me the option to build one. I put a regular city down and it too had no palace nor any option to build. Seem to remember a post when Xin Yu recounted something similar. Anyway, I think this is just a bug which surfaces in rare circumstances. The basic rule is clear and as stated. By the way, I have recently appreciated that the trigger for advanced tribes having more than one citizen and an improvement or several is the tipping player's discovery of Invention. It's a while since I read William Keenan's slot property paper so I can't remember if this has been appreciated before or not. |
Juggler
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 10:10
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Exploring huts with planes is much more fun than exploring with land units. But seriously, can paratroopers explore huts? Never tried it myself. |
Marquis de Sodaq
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 14:01
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Yes, paratroopers can tip huts; any land units can. Too bad about air units not being able to collect what's inside, tho. Why is it that you cannot find explorers in huts? That would be the best find of all...------------------
"There is no fortress impregnable to an ass laden with gold."
-Philip of Macedon |
Ming
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 14:09
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Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq on 05-04-2001 02:01 PM
Why is it that you cannot find explorers in huts? That would be the best find of all...
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Yeah, the three movement factor of explorers would be nice early in the game... but I wish we could get diplos/spies from huts. Think of the possibilities |
ancient
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 17:49
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quote:
Originally posted by East Street Trader on 05-04-2001 07:08 AM
I went through an entire phase of explore forever on large maps without founding and once, just once out of a lot of games and a very large number of huts, I got an advanced tribe. And it was early, BC for sure.I remember it because it had no palace and didn't offer me the option to build one. I put a regular city down and it too had no palace nor any option to build. Seem to remember a post when Xin Yu recounted something similar. Anyway, I think this is just a bug which surfaces in rare circumstances. The basic rule is clear and as stated. By the way, I have recently appreciated that the trigger for advanced tribes having more than one citizen and an improvement or several is the tipping player's discovery of Invention. It's a while since I read William Keenan's slot property paper so I can't remember if this has been appreciated before or not.
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you have to research something (cant remember what) before you can build a temple |
Scouse Gits
b.02-15-99
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posted May 04, 2001 20:30
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ancient - for a Palace you need 'Masonry' for a Temple 'Ceremonial Burial' for Basics of the Game try the Civolopedia
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