Reading your post, Archangel, has jogged my memory and I do seem to recall one or two occasions when I've thought my unit made surprising progress. Overall, though, I doubt that entrenchment made the difference. I suspect the units I noticed may just have been close to one of my cities.

I think that instructing a unit to entrench may cost it the healing points it would otherwise get that turn. A unit which stays entrenched throughout bounces back immediately after suffering the damage.

I distinctly noted a case recently where the navy had to pick up a survivor. I expected the ensuing long sea voyage to do him a power of good. But when the ship docked half a dozen turns later the lad was pretty much as poorly as when he was carried aboard. Seasick, I expect. Anyone else had that happen?

I also wonder whether ships recover to the same formula as land based units?

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Scouse Git[1]

SG and LaFayette. The failed "long sea voyage" convalescence was a one off and may well be nothing more than faulty observation. What I thought I noticed was not quite a total absense of healing but rather that the rate of healing seemed a good bit slower than normal.

But my units healing in the field are, typically, in fortresses three squares from a city which probably colours my expectations. At sea the unit would not get the benefit of the accelerated rate pointed out by Slow Thinker for being close to the city's facilities.

quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker on 04-06-2001 06:43 PM BTW, somebody could take 15 minutes and check out all hypothesis written here in last two weeks and take 10 minutes and say the results to us. Then we could close this thread SG(2), I know you don't agree with me, you like "the social side of forums"

I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. If you want to talk about the Great Library we can either do this on the discussion thread you started in the General Section, or you can send me a PM.

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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. If you want to talk about the Great Library we can either do this on the discussion thread you started in the General Section, or you can send me a PM.

La Fayette,

quote: Originally posted by La Fayette Furthermore I confess I like the "social side..." (don't deny ST! you like it too)

I think new posters on the site welcome some dialogue with the existing members. I don't want the GL to cut out the social side of these forums. Exchanging views with posters new or old is part of Apolyton's success. Sure, a number of threads will keep repeating on a subject covered many times - so what? There is always something to learn for somebody.
I always look on the Civ2 threads as the daily news - the GL is more of the magazine for concentrated study. They complement each other.
I agree with you that organisation has to be brought into this thread. I think the idea of the Index is a good start.

Perhaps you now understand my confusion?

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SG(2)

In fact, it is La Fayette who taught me that style. He often do allusions to other threads, I don't know what he's speaking about, and I found it out later when I read another thread.

And, IMHO, it was more comical without a quote (I hope you undestand my english: I am not sure about the word order). Or, it would be more comical if you would remember your words, I was mistaken here.
You know, I though you are not so forgetful. (It was a retaliation against your it seems a pity that you don't apply the same standards... )

{combat system}
{healing}{vet status}
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naval/aerial units:
20%/20% of total hit points healed every turn in a fortress or a city
10%/0% of total hit points healed every turn on normal square
100%/100% of total hit points healed every turn in a city with port facility/airport
Airbase, barracks has no effect
port facility/airport affects just the city square

a land unit on a boat is still a land unit, but it is NOT considered moving if the ship moves ( ship IS considered as a moving unit when moving).

a non-moving order doesn't harm healing

vet status, sleep and fortify mode doesn't effect healing

there may be a mistake

quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker on 04-16-2001 06:28 AM A question: aerial units?? a land unit on a boat is still a land unit, but it is NOT considered moving if the ship moves ( ship IS considered as a moving unit when moving).

Don't forget the airport heals aerial units, and the port facility heals naval units. Set those two new employees to work!

Clarity: A moving unit is one that has been given the order to go somewhere. A sleeping land unit on a ship does not receive such an order, and is thus not a moving unit... (splitting hairs, I know...)

Like everyone else I tend to build a barracks only in cities which are likely to undergo prolonged seige and in a shield rich heartland city from where I pump out units subsequently re-homed around the empire.

Your discovery means that there are going to be some extra cases of border cities where a baracks is worthwhile so as to aid the units on duty in the forts.

Perhaps more importantly I have tended to build forts in important remote choke points not cities. But if the choke point is important enough it may be that I should build a city behind the fort so as to support the defenders in the fort with a barracks.

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I have certainly read advice (on Apolyton or elsewhere) to build your city on the choke point! I think the logic was that City Walls are better than fortifying (not sure if this is true).

I agree with Mixiam.

A try to make a summary (Marquis de Sodaq, a "short tips" section for your info:... thread?):

Advantages of a city:
higher defense factor of walls
higher effectivity of barracks
the enemy don't know units inside

I think that a square 7x7 (midpoint(=city) excluded) has an identical healing ability.

I skipped over that post of yours when i was reading this string I was kinda tired and saw a whole bunch of percentages. Numbers confuse me early in the morning.

So I took another gander at it and now the barracks info made sense but I am still confused by the port stuff why is there two percentages? Like 0%/10%?