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Topic: OCC "fortnight" #24 - no wonders |  |
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Paul
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posted March 06, 2001 16:12
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Winston has sent me the 3700 BC save of his no wonders game, which will serve as OCC #24. Besides the usual OCC rules, the only wonder you are allowed to build is the Apollo Program. You are not allowed to build any other wonders in OCC #24.Download here. Original thread here. [This message has been edited by Paul (edited March 06, 2001).] |
Ribannah
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posted March 06, 2001 18:37
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There is something very strange with this map. Look at where the wheat and the buffalo are located, this is not the normal pattern, and it's not on the meridian!------------------ If you have no feet, don't walk on fire |
winston
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posted March 06, 2001 18:49
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This is a randomly generated map, and I see no discrepancy here. Specials don't necessarily have to fit the pattern, as not all specials will be visible until terrain changes/transformations are performed.In this case you don't have enough information to determine if they fit the pattern. Besides, the city site wasn't chosen because of specials, rather to get as many river squares as possible.  |
Smash
b.02-15-99
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posted March 10, 2001 23:06
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This was fairly tough.Only 2 specials.I had a heckuva time with tech choices.Especially when I wanted Superconductor.It was touch and go at the end as I came under heavy advanced weapon assault.Tanks,marines,fighters and bombers.It became a matter of survival so I launched without Fusion.Good thing as Japan built a max ship that would landed in 1982.I'm just happy to have made it.deity 2.42 Arrival-1977ad Monarchy-1850bc Republic-325bc Democracy-1020ad
Trade-875bc Construction-425bc Sanitation-320ad Refrigeration-1750ad Automobile-1864ad Computers-1898ad Space Flight-1914ad
Apollo-1915 1.425bc 2.400bc 3.375bc 12-175bc 21-1768ad(19 460ad) 3550-contact Mongols-peace 3450-Alphabet-trade Mongols for Burial-warrior 3300-hut-100 gold 3250-warrior 3150-contact French-trade for Bronze Working-peace 2950-Carths destroyed by barbs-hut 50 gold- 2900-hut-supported chariot 2800-hut 50 gold 2550-Code of Laws 2500-wheat>silk-hut 25 2450-trade French for Currency 2400-temple 2300-hut non archer 2150-contact Greeks-peace 1950-hut-non horseman 1900-Monarchy-revolt(at end of turn)-trade Greeks for Map Making-trade Mongols for Warrior Code-hut non horse 1850-Govt-Monarchy-hut-Mysticism 1800-trade French for Writing 1750-library- 1700-contact Japan-trade for Masonary and Horseback-alliance-share maps-receive 150-alliance with Greeks-share maps with Greeks and French 1600-hut 25 gold 1550-trade Japan for The Wheel 1300-contact Persia-pay 50 for ceasefire-Japan gifts 25 1250-Greeks gift 25-peace with Persia-French pay 50 tribute 1100-market 1050-japan gifts 25-Persia declares war 950-we love the king-contact Aztecs-peace-trade for Pottery-share maps-diplomat 900-hut-non archer-Greeks gift 50-pay Persia 50 for ceasefire 875-Trade-granary 850-bribe barb archer 61 825-wine caravan 800-size 5-end we love the king-trade French for Literacy-receive tribute 50-Japan gifts 100-Greeks cancel alliance 775-hides caravan 750-gems caravan-Aztecs tribute 50 700-hides caravan 675-gold caravan-Aztecs tribute 50 625-size 6 600-Japan gifts 50 575-dye caravan-alliance with Mongols-receive 50-alliance with Greeks-Aztecs tribute 25 550-bribe barb archer(non)61 450-size 7 425-Construction-wine to Orleans 50 bonus 400-colliseum-hides to Orleans 50 bonus 375-gems to Orleans(demanded) 150 bonus 350-The Republi-revolt 325-govt-Republic-trade french for Iron Working-Japan gifts 50-peace with Persia-Greeks gift 50-mongols 25 300-”we love” size 7 250-aquaduct-trade Japan for Poly-Greeks gift 50-Mongols 25 200-coal caravan 175-end “we love” 12-dye to Orleans 98 gold 98 150-Philosophy>Banking-dye caravan-hides to Paris(demanded)172 100-bank-trade French For Math-Aztecs gift 50-Greeks 50 ----------------------- AD1-Monotheism 20-cathedral 100-wine caravan 140-Japan gifts 25 200-Medicine-Japan gifts 25-alliance with Fraench-trade for Astronomy-receive 200-dye to Orleans 112 coal 112-Greeks gift 150 220-trade Aztecs for Engineering 260-Mongols cancel alliance 320-Sanitation-(we love) 12- 340-sewer system-Japan gifts 50-Greeks 50 400-Japan gifts 100-Greeks 50 460-diplomat-end “we love”19(no more food) 500-bribe barb trireme(non) 82 540-University-wine to Paris(demanded)274-bribe barb legion 82-Japan gifts 100 560-build university 580-barb leader 150-trade French for Seafaring 620-Bridge Building 640-city walls-Japan gifts 50-Greeks 100 720-bribe barb horse 41 740-wine caravan 760-Economics-dye caravan-Japan gifts 50-French 25 800-stock exchange 900-Invention-trade Persia for Chemistry-Japan gifts 100-French 50 920-wine to Osaka(demanded)217 940-dye to Osaka 90 960-French gift 50 980-Democracy 1000-revolt 1020-govt-Democracy-trade Aztecs for Navigation-Greeks gift 200 1060-gold caravan 1080-dye caravan 1120-Japan gifts 75-French 100-Greeks cancel alliance 1140-Gunpowder 1240-trade French for Physics-receive 50-Japan gifts 150 1260-Explosives 1280-engineer 1300-bribe barb legion 82 1320-engineer-gold to Tenochtitlan 127 dye 127 1360-Magnetism 1380-Japan gifts 100-French 100 1400-gold caravan 1440-dye caravan 1480-Metallurgy-Japan gifts 150 1520-French cancel alliance 1550-Electricity-trade French for Steam Engine-trade Aztecs for Feudalism 1560-Japan gifts 100 1580-gold to Tlatelolco 117 dye 117 1610-Railroad-Japan gifts 100 1630-gold caravan-Japan gifts 100 1650-barb leader 150 1660-dye caravan 1680-Gravity-trade French for Conscription 1750-Refrigeration-ouch-gold to Tlatelolco 76 dye 76 1752-Japan gifts 100-trade Aztecs for Chivalry 1756-super market-”we love” 17 1762-gold caravan 1764-trade Aztecs for Industrialization and Theology(Darwin’s) 1766-dye caravan 1768-Leadership 1772-Japan cancels alliance 1776-end “we love” 25 1786-wine caravan-The Corporation-gold to Tenochtitlan 88-dye to Tlatelolco(demanded)148 1792-oil freight 1798-Steel 1802-wine to Sparta(demanded)75 1810-”we love” 25 1812-Refining-end “we love” 26-sell sewer-French Declare war-Japan declares war-trade Aztecs for Electronics 1814-sell aquaduct 1818-barracks-trade Aztecs for Tactics 1822-alpine troop-oil to Persepolis 126 1824-alpine troop-trade French for Atomic Theory-peace 1826-trade Japan for Fundamentalism 1828-Communism 1846-Combustion-dam no Auto-bad game as far as tech choices go 1850-dye freight 1851-cloth freight 1856-Flight 1858-dye to Tlatelolco(demanded) 159 1859-cloth to Texcoco(demanded)184 1864-Automobile 1865-superhighways 1866-gold freight 1867-cloth freight 1870-Mass Production 1874-Japan declares war-gold to Osaka 137 1876-Radio 1879-Greeks sneak attack-trade Aztecs for Mobile Warfare 1880-barracks-peace with Greeks 1882-armor-French declare war 1884-Machine Tools-fighter 1885-gold freight 1886-cloth freight 1892-Miniaturization-cloth to Kagoshima(demanded)265 1893-gold to Tlatelolco 148 1894-cloth freight 1898-Computers 1899-research lab 1900-wine freight 1904-Advanced Flight 1906-war with Greece-raze nearby city 1907-cloth to Kagoshima(demanded)265 1909-Rocketry 1912-gold to Persepolis(demanded)162 1914-Space Flight-gold freight 1915-Apollo 1918-Japan declares war 1920-Plastics 1921-gold to Kagoshima 101 1922-Japan sinks my trireme-tis a sad day 1926-Nuclear Fission-French declare war 1930-15 structurals ready 1933-Nuclear Power 1941-The Laser-steal Genetic Engineering form France 1942-steal Espionage from France 1947-steal Amphibious Warfare from France 1951-Robotics 1960-Superconductor 1963-sell research lab 1964-launch 21-5-5-1-1-1 no fusion-a matter of survival now-sell university 65-sell library 74-Japan launches max ship eta 1982  1977-ARRIVAL AC |
winston
b.02-15-99
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posted March 10, 2001 23:33
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Argh! You beat me by one measly year, Smash! Oh, did I mention this is a no Wonders, no Oedo-years challenge? I never go by the Oedo years in my games... I'll get my reconstructed log together Sunday or Monday and post it here for comparison. |
Marko_Polo
b.02-15-99
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posted March 13, 2001 08:28
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I tried this challenge but I failed. I lose to Mongol aggression. It's 1950, I have space flight discovered, got loads of food caravans but don't have time to build that ship. My strat was to give all techs to all as soon as I got them and doing that I gave Mongols superior military. They have conquered almost all other civs (!) and now they are attacking me from two fronts. Their howies kill even my fortified vet mech infs on hill fortresses. I have Carthagians as ally to my south who are trying to help me out but that's not enough. Each turn the Mongols hurl 4-10 armors/howies and now even bombers and my men are dying like flies. They have killed all my pollution-cleaning engineers so my city is suffocating of toxic waste. My farm lands are all poisoned and my once beautiful 30-sized metropoly is only 24 anymore Last turn one of their spies even poisoned my water supplies (first time AI has done that to me) and I conceded. There is one more thing: I was unlucky not to be able to build recurring trade caravans/freights (unlike Smash). So I ended up building tons of food caravans because I didn't had anything else to build. Altogether, this was an exiting game even when I didn't won. It was fun watching Mongols conquer first Japan and then French city by city and moving closer to my city. This is the first time I have witnessed an AI civ's successful conquest campaign against other AI civs, at least in modern time. Usually I'm supreme and they all ally against me but now I actually was good friends with Carths during the whole game and we are fighting against a mutual enemy.. it's fun for a change! Hmm.. now thinking of it I could give up the OCC challenge and start conquesting the Mongols in turn I have already destroyed a few of their cities they had build next to mine, but I could as well take them and let them take the blows. Meanwhile I could have peace in the capital to send reinforcements to those new border cities.. that could be fun too! |
Ribannah
b.02-15-99
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posted March 13, 2001 17:11
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quote:
 Originally posted by Marko_Polo on 03-13-2001 08:28 AM I tried this challenge but I failed. I lose to Mongol aggression. It's 1950, I have space flight discovered, got loads of food caravans but don't have time to build that ship.
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In my game (MGE) the Mongols never built a second city, and got obliterated by my one ally the Japanse two years before my spaceship landed in '72. The last time my citizens felt like producing a commodity was in 1770 .... On the bright side, Rome grew to size 33  Log will follow later.
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solo
b.02-15-99
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posted March 15, 2001 13:20
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Thanks to Winston for a fun game. I was able to wheel and deal technologies and learn quickly with 5 long-lasting alliances and embassies everywhere, but as soon as I got space flight, I almost did not survive the onslaught while building my rocket, which arrived in 1930. Will post the log after it is typed up. --------------------------------------- OCC #24, no wonders except Apollo Deity 2.42 Arrival - 1930 AD Republic - 925 BC Democracy - 1020 AD Fundamentalism - 1915 AD Construction - 950 BC Trade - 550 BC Sanitation - 420 AD Refrigeration - 1776 AD Automobile - 1828 AD Computers - 1858 AD Space Flight - 1889 AD Apollo - 1890 AD Route 1 - 300 BC Route 2 - 25 BC Route 3 - 40 AD Size 12 - 425 BC Size 21 - 1820 AD Size 31 - 1842 AD 3550 Mongols: peace 3500 Alphabet, Mongols: trade for Ceremonial Burial 3150 French: war 3000 settlers 2900 Mysticism from hut 2750 warrior, size 2, settler joins Rome, size 3 2700 Code of Laws 2650 wheat mined into silk 2400 temple 2300 hut: barbarians 2250 barbarians kill horseman 2050 Writing 1650 library 1500 Literacy 1400 diplomat 1350 Carthaginians: war 1150 diplomat 1100 Carthaginians: give tech, peace, alliance French: give tech, peace, alliance 975 diplomat, Republic 950 Japanese: war French: trade for Bronze Working, Currency, Construction, no gift Carthaginians: trade for Map Making, share maps, no gift 925 government to Republic, horseman from hut Japanese: give tech, peace, alliance, trade for Horseback Riding 900 WLTCD starts at 3 875 hut: 50g 825 hut: 50g French: give Map Making, trade maps 800 colosseum, size 8, WLTCD stops Carthaginians: give tech, 25g gift French: trade for Masonry and Pottery, share maps 775 Japanese: trade for Monarchy 700 hut: Math 650 Japanese: alliance vs. the Aztecs Carthaginians: trade for Warrior Code, 50g gift 625 marketplace 600 Aztecs: war, establish embassy 550 Philosophy, Trade French: give tech Japanese: trade for Seafaring, 75g gift Carthaginians: give tech, 50g gift 525 aqueduct, WLTCD starts at 8 500 barbarian leader, 150g Mongols: war 475 wine 425 size 12, WLTCD stops 400 gems 375 Carthaginians: trade for Iron Working, give tech, share maps French: give tech 325 gold, Japanese: give tech, share maps 300 wine(d) to Edo, 140g 250 dye 225 French: give tech, share maps 200 University, French: trade for The Wheel 175 coal 150 Carthaginians: give tech, 50g gift Japanese: give tech, 75g gift 125 Mongols: peace, give tech, share maps, alliance 100 university 50 diplomat, Carthaginians: 50g gift 25 gems(d) to Osaka, 336g AD years 1 Bridge Building 20 food 40 gold to Rheims, 86g 60 diplomat, Mongols: give tech, share maps French: give tech, share maps 100 diplomat Japanese: trade for Polytheism, share maps, 75g gift, embassy established 160 food, Medicine, dye(d) to Utica, 204g Mongols: give tech, share maps 220 food, bribe barbarian legion and trireme in southern ocean hut: Astronomy 260 Japanese: trade for Engineering, 150g gift French: trade for Banking, give them 50g Carthaginians: establish embassy, give tech, 50g gift 280 bank 300 Persians: war, Monotheism, coal to Kyoto, 164g 320 cathedral 340 hut: barbarians 380 food, Aztecs: war 420 Sanitation 440 sewer system, WLTCD starts at 12 520 wine 540 WLTCD stops at 15, bribe barbarian legion Carthaginians: give tech, 100g gift 620 Economics Carthaginians: trade for Theory of Gravity, 100g gift Japanese: give tech, 150g gift 640 stock exchange Mongols: give tech, share maps, 100g gift 660 wine(d) to Edo, 190g French: give tech, share maps, 50g gift bribe French phalanx 680 French: establish embassy 700 food 720 Mongols: Invention as a gift 740 diplomat, Chemistry 760 gold, Japanese: trade for Feudalism, no gift 820 food 900 Democracy 960 food, French: trade for Navigation, share maps, 25g gift Japanese: give tech, share maps, no gift Carthaginians: give tech, share maps, no gift Mongols: give tech, no gift Persians: peace, alliance, gold to Panoramus, 60g 1000 revolution 1020 food, government to Democracy 1060 WLTPD starts at 15 1080 gold 1100 Chivalry, Carthaginians: trade for Physics, 50g gift Japanese: give Physics, 75g gift 1120 food, WLTPD stops at 17 1140 Persians trade for Gunpowder, share maps, no gift 1160 food 1180 food 1200 Japanese: trade for Magnetism, give them 50g Mongols: establish embassy, give tech 1220 food, Aztecs: war forever 1280 food, Explosives, give it to the French 1300 Persians: establish embassy French: give them Magnetism 1320 engineers, Carthaginians: 100g gift 1340 engineers, give Feudalism to French 1380 food, Carthaginians: trade for Steam Engine, 150g gift French: give Steam Engine, 50g gift 1420 Mongols: give Steam Engine, 100g gift 1440 Atomic Theory 1460 food, gold(d) to Caralis, 165g 1500 diplomat 1520 food, Japanese: trade for Metallurgy, 125g gift French: give them Metallurgy, 100g gift Persians: give them Metallurgy, 25g gift 1540 give Magnetism to Persians 1560 granary, Leadership, barbarian leader, 150g Carthaginians: trade for Railroad, give them 150g Persians: give them Railroad 1570 bribe barbarian legion 1580 food, WLTPD starts at 16 French: trade for Conscription, give some tech Japanese: give Conscription, no gift 1590 food 1600 bribe barbarian crusader, give Railroad to Japanese 1610 gold, barbarian leader, 150g Aztecs: refuse to talk, steal Industrialization Japanese: give them Industrialization Carthaginians: ditto, 200g gift Persians: ditto, 50g gift Mongols: ditto 1620 wine, WLTPD stops at 19 1640 engineers, Aztecs sink trireme and dragoon 1650 Electricity, Persians: give tech, 50g gift 1660 food, Carthaginians about to build Darwin’s 1670 Carthaginians: trade for Communism and Fundamentalism Japanese: Give them Communism and Fundamentalism, 100g gift Mongols: ditto, 50g gift French: ditto, 100g gift 1680 food, Persians: trade for Tactics Japanese: give them Tactics Carthaginians: ditto French: ditto, 100g gift 1700 diplomat, Japanese: trade for Corporation, 200g gift French: give them Corporation, 100g gift Mongols: ditto, no gift 1720 food 1740 food 1750 Espionage, Mongols: give tech, 50g gift 1752 oil 1756 food 1758 gold(d) to Caralis, 120g, wine to Kyoto, 66g 1760 food 1764 engineers 1766 spy, Steel, give it to Carthaginians Mongols: give Electricity, 50g gift 1768 food, give Corporation to Carthaginians 1772 food 1776 food, Carthaginians: trade for Refrigeration 1780 food 1784 gold 1788 gems, Refining, oil to Pasargade, 122g French: give Refining, 100g gift 1792 hides, Persians: trade for Guerilla Warfare, no gift Carthaginians: give them Guerilla Warfare 1794 French: give them 200g gift, hides to Tours, 34g 1796 hides 1800 hides 1804 hides 1806 Combustion, French: give them Combustion, no gift gold(d) to Osaka, 236g, gems to Kyoto, 96g 1808 gold, Japanese: trade for Amphibious Warfare, 200g gift Mongols: give them Amphibious Warfare, 50g gift 1810 French: trade for Electronics, give tech 25g gift Japanese: give Electronics 1812 oil, 2 mountains now irrigated plains, WLTPD starts at 18, bribe 2 barbarian dragoons 1816 supermarket 1820 food, size 21 1822 Carthaginians: trade for Machine Tools, no gift Persians: give Machine Tools, 200g gift Mongols: give Machine Tools, 100g gift 1828 Automobile, Mongols destroyed by the French Japanese: give Automobile, 75g gift Carthaginians: ditto, no gift French: ditto, 50g gift gold(d) to Osaka, 264g 1830 superhighways, oil to Kyoto, 208g 1832 Japanese: trade for Mobile Warfare, pay demand for 400g Carthaginians: give them Mobile Warfare 1834 food 1836 food 1840 Miniaturization French: give them Miniaturization, 50g gift Japanese: ditto, 150g gift 1842 WLTPD stops at size 31 1846 food, Persians: trade for Flight, 200g gift 1848 dye 1852 gold, Mass Production Persians: give Mass Production, 200g gift Japanese: ditto, no gift Carthaginians: ditto, no gift 1853 mass transit 1855 gems 1858 Computers, Carthaginians: trade for Nuclear Fission 1860 Persians: give Computers, 400g gift Carthaginians: give Theology Japanese: trade for Radio, 50g gift 1861 factory, Persians destroyed by the Japanese 1862 gold(d) to Osaka, 350g 1863 hydro plant 1864 city walls, Advanced Flight, dye(d) to Kyoto, 278g 1865 gold, Aztecs destroyed by the Japanese Carthaginians: give Advanced Flight 1866 barracks 1867 food 1868 food, French: give tech, 200g gift 1869 food, Nuclear Power French: give Advanced Flight, 150g gift 1870 food 1871 food 1872 food, French destroyed by the Carthaginians Rome is the only peanut left 1873 food 1874 food 1875 food, Laser 1876 food 1877 food, Japanese: trade for Labor Union, give them 100g 1878 food 1879 food, Carthaginians: trade for Robotics, give them 100g 1880 food 1881 food 1882 food, Rocketry 1884 gold(d) to Malaca, 343g 1885 manufacturing plant 1887 SAM missile battery 1888 mechanized infantry 1889 mechanized infantry, Space Flight 1890 Apollo Program 1891 S#1, Japanese cancel alliance, gems(d) to Tenochtitlan, 474g 1892 S#2, Carthaginians at war with the Japanese 1893 S#3 1894 S#4, give Space Flight to Carthaginians 1895 S#5 1896 S#6, Plastics 1897 C#1, sneak attack by Japanese, 2 engineers killed Carthaginians to our aid 1898 C#2 1899 C#3 1900 C#4 1901 C#5 1902 C#6 1903 S#7 1904 S#8, 1905 S#9, Superconductor 1906 M#1 1907 M#2 1908 M#3 1909 S#10, Carthaginians end alliance 1910 S#11 1911 S#12, sneak attack by Carthaginians, bribe howitzer 1912 S#13 1913 S#14, Carthaginians have Fusion Power 1914 S#15, revolution 1915 Spy, government to Fundamentalism, bribe Carthaginian howitzer, steal Fusion Power, Launch 15-3-3-1-1-1 1916 mechanized infantry 1917 mechanized infantry 1918 mechanized infantry 1919 engineers 1920 engineers, bribe 2 Japanese howitzers 1921 bribe Carthaginian mechanized infantry 1922 mechanized infantry, engineer killed 1923 engineers 1924 mechanized infantry 1925 engineers 1926 mechanized infantry, engineer killed 1927 engineers, Carthaginians: peace, give Genetic Engineering 1928 engineers 1929 mechanized infantry, sell manufacturing plant 1930 Arrival on Alpha Centauri [This message has been edited by solo (edited March 15, 2001).] |
Ribannah
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posted March 15, 2001 22:23
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OCC Succession Game Deity MGE*No human wonders except Apollo* Guess you all thought my landing was in 1972  ================================================================ AC: 1872 Monarchy: -2650 Republic: -825 Democracy: 220 Apollo: 1816 Trade routes: -1000, -825, -750 Size 12: -725 Size 19: 20 Size 33: 1808 Trade: -1850 Construction: -1400 Sanitation: -200 Refrigeration: 1200 Automobile: 1750 Computers: 1772 Space Flight: 1814 ============================================ -3700 Rome already founded, no techs - switching to working plains -3650 Working Buffalo -3600 N-Chariot(h) -3450 Alphabet, Horsemen(h) -3400 Mongols, Peace, traded for Ceremonial Burial (they also have Bronze Working) -3300 Code of Laws(h), 50(h) - switching to Monarchy -3150 Starting to mine the wheat -3050 Settlers, Barb Leader!! (150)  -3000 Temple, S2, 50 -2950 Archers(h) -2800 Chariot(h) -2750 Wheat into Silk -2700 French, Peace -2650 Monarchy, MONARCHY, traded for Currency and Bronze Working(F), French ask for alliance!! - we accept ----- 2 techs->F, 3 techs->M - we refuse Warrior Code, Settlers join Rome -> S3, Pottery(h) -2500 MarketPlace -2450 Carthagians, traded for Horseback Riding, Peace, 5 techs->C, no Ally , no tribute  -2250 Barb Archers -2200 Map Making(h) -2050 Granary, N-Chariot(h), Barb Chariot -2000 S4, Barb Leader (150), Barb Chariot -1900 Japanese, traded for Mysticism, 5 techs->J, no Ally , 100<-J  -1850 Persians, traded for Iron Working, Masonry and Warrior Code, Peace, 2 techs->P, no Ally , 200<-P  ----- Traded for Trade (F), 7 techs->M, Maps, 50 , 6 techs->C, 25  -1800 City Walls -1750 S5 -1700 Hides -1600 Silk, Aztecs, traded for Writing, Peace, 8 techs->Az, Maps, 100 , 7 techs->F, Maps -1500 Library, S6 -1400 Hides, traded for Construction (C), 50  -1350 50(h) -1300 Colosseum, 6 techs->J, Maps, 25  -1250 2 techs->M -1200 Hides, Literacy -1150 1 tech->C,M,F, 25 <-F , Persians: "Mathematics" -1100 Wine -1000 Hides to Carthage (d,100) -950 Gold, S8 -875 Gems, sold City Walls, Mongols sneak-attack, they lose Archers -850 1 tech->Az, 50 , Barb Legion -825 Aqueduct, The Republic, REPUBLIC, Silk to Orleans (d,205), M Warriors -800 S9, We Love , di Archers -775 Diplomat, Philosophy -> Banking, S10, di Horsemen, traded for Mathematics(P), Peace(M), 6,4,4 techs->P,C,M, Maps, Barb Legion -750 Bank, S11, Barb Leader (150), Hides to Kyoto (114) -725 S12, Traded for Seafaring(F), 4 techs->F, Maps, 50  -700 Coal, We Love ends , 6 techs->J, Maps -650 Barb Legion -625 Diplomat -600 Medicine, 1 tech->F, 100  -550 Diplomat -525 Gold to Kyoto (138) -475 Diplomat, 2 techs->C,M -450 University, Wine to Paris (d,204), Gems to Kyoto (138) -425 University, Embassy(F) -400 The Wheel, br Barb Chariot, 3 techs->J, Maps, 2 techs->F,C,M -375 Wine, Barb Chariot, br Barb Horsemen, Barb Leader (150), di Chariot -350 Barb Chariot, Hides to Persepolis (d,320) -325 Diplomat, Engineering, br Barb Horsemen, traded for Polytheism(A), 8 techs->A, Maps, 2 techs->C,M -275 Coal to Kyoto (138) -250 Gems -225 Embassy(J), di Horsemen -200 Sanitation -175 Diplomat -150 We Love  -125 Sewer System, S13, Monotheism(h) , di Chariot -100 Cathedral, S14 -75 S15, Embassy(P) -50 S16 -25 S17, Embassy(M) 1 Food, S18 20 Economics, S19, traded for Feudalism(J), 6,4 techs->F,J,M, Maps, 4 techs->C, 100<-F  40 We Love ends , traded for Astronomy(P), 9 techs->P, Maps 60 Embassy(C), Wine to Osaka (d,390) 100 Stock Exchange, Invention, di Horsemen 120 Gold 160 Wine, Aztecs: GREAT LIBRARY 180 2 techs->F, Maps, 2 techs->C 220 Democracy, DEMOCRACY, 1 tech->F, 100  240 Food 280 Dipomat, 1 tech->C 300 French: PYRAMIDS 340 Food, Chemistry 400 Food, Gems to Persepolis (100), Barb Legion 420 2 techs->P, Ally , Maps 440 Gunpowder, traded for Bridge Building(J), 4 techs->J, Maps, traded for Navigation(F), ----- 2 techs->F, 7 techs->M, Maps, Gold to Malaca (d,123) 480 Food 540 Explosives 560 Engineers -> S18, Wine to Osaka (d,195), Barb Legion, 5 techs->C, Maps, 2,1 techs->P,M 580 We Love  600 Engineers 620 We Love ends  660 Metallurgy, 1 tech->C,M, 2 techs->F, 100  680 Food 700 Barb Crusader 720 Desert into Plains 740 2 Barb Crusaders 760 Gold 780 Br Barb Archers, barb Archers, barb Elephant, 2 techs->P 800 Wine, Theology, traded for Physics(P), 1 tech->P, 200 , 2 techs->Az,C,M Barb Archers 820 Desert into Plains, di Archers 840 Japanese declare war, J Explorers, Barb Elephant, 1 tech->F, 100  860 Food 880 Aztecs: LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP 940 Food, Magnetism, Barb Elephant, 1 tech->F, 100  980 1 tech->P, 150  1000 Diplomat 1020 Hills into plains 1040 Gold to Malaca (d,189) 1060 Diplomat, traded for Steam Engine(F), French end alliance , br Barb->N Knights, Barb Leader (150) ----- traded for Chivalry(M), 3 techs->C, Maps 1100 Electricity, We Love , Gold to Malaca (d,195) 1120 Engineers, Wine to Kyoto (102) 1140 We Love ends  1160 Gold 1180 Barb Elephant, br Aztec->N Engineers (244), Barb Knights 1200 Refrigeration, We Love  1220 Supermarket, S19, Barb Elephant, hills into plains 1240 We Love ends , Barb Elephant, traded for Conscription(A), 1 tech->Az, 3 techs->C,M ----- Peace(J), 9 techs->J, Maps, 1 tech->P, 75  1260 1 tech->P, 50 , br French->N Engineers (240) 1280 1 tech->P, 75  1300 Food, Embassy(A), 4 techs->F, Maps 1320 Sold Granary, 1 tech->P, 150  1340 Railroad, br Barb->N Knights, 1 tech->P, 150 , br French->N Engineers (224), Barb Knights 1360 We Love  1380 Cloth, S20, hills into plains, 1 tech->C,M 1400 S21 1420 S22 1440 S23 1460 Gems, S24 1480 S25 1500 Industrialization, S26 1510 Food, French: COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY 1520 S27 1530 S28, Barb Crusaders, 1 tech->C,M 1540 Food, S29, Persians: COLOSSUS 1550 We Love ends , 1 tech->P, 25  1570 Food, The Corporation, Barb Leader (150), 1 tech->P, 50 , traded for Leadership(F) 1580 Gold to Persepolis (d,318), 4 techs->J, Maps, 2 techs->M 1590 Factory 1610 Food, Electronics, 1 tech->P, 100 , 1 tech->M, 4 techs->A, Maps 1650 550<-P for War(A)  1660 Hydroplant, Steel, traded for Tactics(J), 1 tech->J, 1 tech->P, traded for Refining(P) 1670 Gems to Edo (d,254), mountain into hills 1680 Dye, Cloth to Persepolis (106) 1700 Coal 1710 A Cannon, A Dragoons, Dye to Kyoto (d,218), br French->N Engineers (292), br French->N Engineers (276) 1720 Oil, Carthagians: SUN TZU'S WAR ACADEMY 1730 Barb Musketeers 1740 Food 1750 Automobile, 8,5 techs->F,M, Maps 1752 Superhighways, 5 techs->Az, Cease Fire, Maps, Coal to Persepolis (d,772) 1754 Mass Production, We Love , hills into plains, plains/r into grassland(s)/r 1756 Food, S30 1758 We Love ends , Oil to Persepolis (318), 1 tech->M,Az,F, 4 techs->J, Maps, Ally, 50 , 3 techs->P 1760 Machine Tools, mountain into hills, 1 tech->Machine Tools(P), 250->P for Theory of Gravity, 1 tech->M ----- Persians: DARWIN'S VOYAGE, they get Atomic Theory and Miniaturization 1764 Gold, steal Atomic Theory(P) -> "Minor incident" , grassland/r into hills/r 1768 Nuclear Fission, di Engineers, traded for Mobile Warfare(M), 3 techs->M ----- traded for Miniaturization(P), 1 tech->P, 14 techs->C (finally not hostile anymore!), Maps 1770 Wine, we love , 4 techs->A, Gold to Persepolis (d,880), hills/r mined 1772 Computers, S31, Gems to Edo (d,756), 1 tech->P, 75 , 7,5 techs->J,F, Maps, Wine to Edo (252) ----- Aztecs: Statue of Liberty, Carthagians demand 1000 -> War, C Knights 1774 Research Lab, Robotics, We Love ends , C Knights 1776 Plains into Grassland(s) 1778 Manufacturing Plant 1780 Food, We Love , hills into plains 1782 Food, Flight, S32, traded for Fundamentalism(M), Japanese: MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL 1784 Food, We Love ends , plains into grassland(s), completed railroad to Osaka 1786 Food, bribed Carthagian->N Armor (780) , Carthagians: MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION 1788 Food 1790 Radio, grassland/r into hills/r 1792 Food 1794 Food, plains/r into grassland/r, hills/r mined, grassland/r into hills/r, br Carthagian Armor (812) ----- Peace(C), 3,8 techs->C,F, Maps, 3 techs->A,M, 1 tech->J,P 100,300  1796 Food 1798 Food, Advanced Flight, hills/r mined -> 80 shields 1800 City Walls, di 2 Engineers, Japanese: J.S. BACH'S CATHEDRAL 1802 Airport 1804 Carthagians: ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO. 1806 Rocketry, We Love , traded for Communism(P), 1 tech->P, Aztecs: SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE 1808 S33, sold Sewer System, 2 barb Riflemen 1810 We Love ends , barb Leader (150), sold Aqueduct 1814 Space Flight 1816 APOLLO PROGRAM, Japanese: HOOVER DAM 1818 S#01 1820 S#02 1822 S#03, traded for Nuclear Power(J), 1 tech->J, French: SETI PROGRAM 1824 S#04, Plastics, Japanese: WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE 1826 S#05, traded Spaceflight for Genetic Engineering(F) 1828 S#06 1830 S#07 1832 S#08, 8,7,7,5 techs->M,A,C,F, Maps, 5 techs->P, Maps, 700 , br French->N Armor (528)  1834 S#09, The Laser 1836 S#10 1838 S#11 1840 S#12 1842 S#13, Superconductor, traded for Amphibious Warfare(J), 1 tech->J, 100  1844 S#14, traded for Espionage(P), 1 tech->P, persians end alliance , 4 techs->M, Maps 1846 S#15, 1 tech->J, 100 , Carthagians: UNITED NATIONS 1848 C#01, 1 tech->J, 150 , 4 techs->C, Maps, 4 techs->F 1850 C#02, 1 tech->J, 100  1851 C#03, Fusion Power, 4 techs->A, Peace(A) 1852 C#04, traded for Recycling(F), traded for Combined Arms(C), 1 tech->C ----- traded for Guerilla Warfare(J), 1 tech->J, 100  1853 C#05 1854 C#06, br Barb->N Partisans, barb Partisans 1855 M#01, barb Cavalry 1856 M#02, br Carthagian Spy, barb Partisans, barb Cavalry, Carthagians: CURE FOR CANCER 1857 M#03, Environmentalism, LAUNCH 15-3-3-1-1-1, br Barb->N Partisans, di N-Horsemen, di N-Knights ----- 5,5,3 techs->M,J,A, Maps, 3,2 techs->F,C, 1 tech->J, 100 , Aztecs: ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE 1858 SDI Defence, di N-Knights, French: C#01 1859 SAM Missile Battery, barb Partisans, di 2 N-Chariots, Japanese: C#01-02, French: C#02 1860 Solar Plant, sold Hydroplant, Japanese: C#03 1861 Japanese: C#04, Carthagians: C#01-02 1862 Future Tech 1, Carthagians: C#03-04 1863 Aztecs: C#01, Mongols: C#01 1864 Aztecs: C#02 1865 Japanese: M#01-02, C#05-06 1866 Armor, French: C#03-04, Carthagians: M#01, barb Cavalry 1867 Howitzer, Future Tech 2, let Carthagians declare war, we kill 3 Howitzers, 2 Armor, 1 Marines , Japanese: C#07-08 1868 Fighter, C Marines, C Helicopter, Mongols: C#02 1869 Fighter, Carthagians: C#05 1870 Fighter, Mongols destroyed by Japanese, Carthagians: C#06 1871 Fighter, Japanese: M#03, C#09-10, Carthagians: M#02, C#07-08 1872 ALPHA CENTAURI Score: 191 (24%) (Balthazar the Glutton  ------------------ If you have no feet, don't walk on fire |
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posted March 16, 2001 14:13
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Ribannah - Your note about commodities was too obvious a clue. As usual, nice game and a great result! |
Ecthelion
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posted March 18, 2001 19:35
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I just downloaded the file... going to look at it tomorrow. |
winston
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posted March 20, 2001 08:08
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Hmm, I haven't been able to muster the energy to reconstruct a game log from the saves I have, like I promised to do earlier. Sorry about that.  Starting a new game seemed infinitely more appealing than running through the old one just for making a log. But next time I play a comparison game, I'll remember to log the progress of the game 'in real time'. I'm glad everyone seemed to like the game, and hat's off to the ones who once again were able to push the boundary back quite a bit in terms of landing dates.  Incidentally, I now find it very fun and challenging to play various premade, historical maps with this special OCC variety: No wonders, found Rome exactly at the starting square - and in 4,000 b.c., and don't declare war on the AI. This makes for a different game entirely than the traditional OCC, as you have a lot more time (and eventually gold)on your hands due to the slowed down research rate. So the obvious thing to do is bribe as many AI units as you possibly can and set up parameters of units in between AI civs and around their cities. And make the most of the 2 continent trading strategy. I'm currently playing this way on the standard world map (small) and it's the most fun I've had in months!  |
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posted March 22, 2001 19:40
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Not thinking too much throughout most of this . Only got Monarchy after about 20 techs. Mongols got killed once, the Indians twice and had some troubles at the end after the Japanese got reincarnated as the Babylonians next to me . Nice for easy trade though . Had to use a lot of resources to defend myself from the Babylonians at the end. They declared war just after I had started to build my spaceship. After they killed all my N-Engineers I had big pollution problems . Amazing how differently games can turn out from the same start.A shot of the finish. Deity 2.42 Arrival-1962ad Monarchy -125 Republic 460 Democracy 1764 Apollo 1914 Route 1 -725 Route 2 -700 Route 3 -500 Trade -925 63 Construction -875 65 Sanitation 1160 158 Refrigeration 1846 248 Automobile 1869 269 Computers 1892 292 Space Flight 1913 313 Landing 1962 362
Size 12 540 Size 21 1897 (size 19 in 1380) Trade Routes 4631g Tribute 4850g Barb Leaders 300g Huts 50g ----------------------------- -3700 Game start -3450 Alphabet. Warrior. -3250 Warrior. Barbs (h). Warrior kld. -3100 Warrior. -3000 Ceremonial Burial. Peace with Mongols. Exchange for Horseback Riding. -2950 Japanese destroyed by barbs. Archers (h) -2800 Bronze Working (h). Horseman. -2750 Currency (h). -2500 Map Making (h). Techs -> M. -2250 N-Chariot (h). -2150 N-Legion (h). Disband Archers. -2000 Temple. Exchange for Code of Laws and Writing with Babylonians, give tech, maps, alliance. -1950 Techs -> M. -1850 N-Legion kld by Barbs. -1650 Polytheism (h) -1500 N-Elephant (h). -1450 Barb Leader 150g. -1400 Library. -1350 Exchange for Iron Working, Masonry and Warrior Code with persians, peace. Techs -> B, 50g. -1300 Marketplace. -1150 All tech -> M, maps. -1050 Diplomat. Embassy with B. Exchange with Aztecs for Mysticism and Pottery, peace, maps. -1000 Techs -> Carthaginians, maps, alliance, 50g. -925 Trade (h) -900 Dye Caravan. 50g (h). 50g A. -875 Trade for Construction with B, 25g. -850 Hides Caravan. -725 Gems Caravan. Trade for Mathematics with P, maps. Dye -> Babylon 44g. -700 Literacy. Hides -> Babylon 44g. -675 Disband Warrior. -650 Disband Horseman. -600 50g C. -575 Colloseum. -500 Gems -> Babylon 24g. -425 Wine Caravan. -400 Techs -> B, 25g. Techs -> C, 50g. -300 Tech -> B, 50g. Techs -> C. Techs -> A, maps. -225 Wine -> Babylon 64g. -150 Philosophy -> Monarchy. Revolution. Trade for Seafaring with B. Techs -> French, maps, alliance, 100g. -125 Monarchy established. Aquaduct. -75 Dye Caravan. Techs -> F, A, P maps alliance 50g, C 50g, M - maps. 1 Dye -> Ur, 28g. 20 M destroyed by P. 60 Diplomat. 160 Coal Caravan. 220 Diplomat. Disbnd Warrior. 300 Coal -> Babylon 36g. 340 Gold Caravan. 360 C maps, 50g, embassy. Indians destroyed by Babylonians. 380 Techs -> Indians, maps, alliance. Diplomat. 440 Republic. Revolution. Embassy with I. 460 Republic established. 480 Start WLTCD size 9. Gold -> Babylon 50g. Trade for Astronomy with B. 500 Coal Caravan. 540 End WLTCD size 12. 560 Trade with P for The Wheel, give tech, 75g. Trade with B for Navigation, 25g. Techs -> C. Techs -> I, maps. 600 Coal -> Babylon 33g. 640 Wine Caravan. 680 Diplomat. 720 P 150g. Trade for Bridge building with A, give tech. Techs -> F, 50g. 760 Wine -> Babylon 82g. 780 University. 800 Trade for Monotheism with B, Coal Caravan. 860 University built. 900 Cathedral. 920 Coal -> Babylon 40g. 940 Wine Caravan. 960 B maps. Tech -> C. Tech -> P 25g. Tech -> F. 980 Trade for Engineering with P, give tech, 25g. Tech -> C. 1020 Medicine. Tech -> B. Wine -> Babylon 110g. 1060 Coal Caravan. 1140 Coal -> Babylon 48g. 1160 Sanitation. Trade for Physics with B. Techs -> I. 1180 Wine Caravan. Tech -> P, 100g. 1220 25g B. 1240 Sewer System. WLTCD starts size 12. Wine -> Babylon 122g. 1280 Gold Caravan. 50g B. 1320 Coal Caravan. Gold -> Babylon 165g. 1360 Banking. Wine Caravan. 1380 Coal -> Babylon 57g. WLTCD ends size 19. Techs -> I, 50g. Tech -> P, 50g. Tech -> C. 1400 Bank. 1420 Wine -> Babylon 142g. 1440 Dye Caravan. 1480 Coal Caravan. 1500 Chemistry. Trade for Invention with B. Dye -> Babylon 57g. Tech -> C. Trade for Feudalism with Persians, give tech, 50g. 1510 Wine Caravan. 1520 Coal -> Babylon 57g. 1530 Dye Caravan. 1540 Wine -> Babylon 227g. 1560 Economics. Trade for Steam Engine with B, 50g. Dye -> Babylon 96g. Techs -> I. 1590 Stock Exchange. 1610 Dye Caravan. 1620 N-Settler and N-Elephant kld by barbs. 1630 Democracy. Gold Caravan. 1640 Barb Leader 150g. Gold -> Nineveh 93g. 1650 Diplomat. 1660 Dye -> Babylon 182g. 1690 Magnetism. 1710 Trade for Railroad with B, 50g. 1720 Bribe N-Settlers 452g. Trade for Gunpowder with C, give tech. 1754 Dye Caravan. 1756 Metallurgy. 1758 Trade for Industrialisation with B. 1760 Gold -> Nineveh 70g. 1762 Remember to revolt. 1764 Democracy. Dye -> Babylon 122g. 1766 Tech -> P, 25g. B 50g. 1772 Explosives. 1774 Trade for Conscription with B, 50g. Techs -> I, maps, 100g. Techs -> C, alliance dissolved. Techs -> A, maps. 1776 Trade for Chivalry with P, 50g. 1786 Dye Caravan. 1788 Electricity. 1790 Wine Caravan. Tech -> C. 1794 Oil Caravan. Dye -> Babylon 124g. 1798 Diplomat. Wine -> Babylon 62g. Tech -> A, maps. 1802 Trade for Theory of Gravity with B, gift Communism. Oil -> Babylon 62g. 1804 Leadership. 1806 Bribe A Engineers 344g. 1810 Trade for The Corporation with A, give tech, maps. 1812 Tech -> P, 50g. Tech -> I, 50g. Techs -> F, alliance dissolved. 1814 Bribed A Engineers 356g. 1822 Factory. 1826 Tactics. Wine Freight. 1830 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ur 178g. Wine -> Babylon 93g. A declare war. 1836 City Walls. Bribe A Engineer 344g. 1838 Embassy A, tech peace. 1844 Persians have built an airbase before flight has even been discovered :confused! 1846 Refrigeration. Tech -> A, trade for Electronics, maps, alliance. 1850 Trade with A for Refining. 1851 Hydro Plant. 1853 Supermarket. 1854 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 186g. Tech -> P, 100g. 1855 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ur 182g. 1858 Steel. 1862 Trade for Combustion with B, maps. 1866 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 188g. 1867 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 188g. 1868 Oil Freight. Oil -> Babylon 93g. 1869 Automobile. 1871 Superhighways. 1881 Machine Tools. Trade for Mass Production with B. Techs -> I, C, P 100g, A 200g, F alliance 100g. 1882 Wine Freight. 200g A. 1883 Oil Freight. Wine -> Babylon 370g. Oil -> Ashur 283g. 1884 200g A, 100g P. 1885 Miniaturisation. 1892 Flight. Trade with B for Computers. 1893 Research Lab. Trade for Atomic Theory with P, 100g. 1894 Already have 80 shields without Manufacturing plant. 1897 Size 21. 1898 Oil Freight. Radio. Oil -> Ashur 291g. 1899 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ashur 291g. 1900 Wine Frieght. Wine -> Ashur 212g. 1901 Airport. 1902 Advanced Flight. 1907 Rocketry. Trade for Mobile Warfare with P, 100g. 1908 Barracks. 1910 SAM Missile Battery. 1911 B gift Theology. 1912 B gift Guerilla Warfare. 1913 Buy Space Flight for 750g from B. 1914 Apollo Program. 1915 Struct #1. Nuclear Fission. Space Flight -> P, 100g. Techs -> A, 200g. 1916 Struct #2. Babylonians cancel alliance. 1917 Struct #3. 1918 Struct #4. Tech -> P, 100g. Techs -> C. Bribe N-Alpine 460g from B. 1919 Struct #5. Techs -> C. 1920 Struct #6. B declare war. 1921 Armour. I destroyed by C. Steal Plastics from B. Trade with A for Combined Arms, Tech -> A, 200g. P give 850g for war with C. 1922 Fighter. 1923 Diplomat. Steal Superconductor from B. 1924 Struct #7. 1925 Struct #8. Nuclear Power. 2 N-Engineers kld :mad. Trade with P for Robotics give Tech, 100g. 1926 Struct #9. Techs -> A. 1927 Howitzer. N-Engineer kld :mad. 1928-33 Struct #10-15. 1929 N-Horseman kld. 1934 Armour. 1935 Howitzer. N-Alpine kld. 1936 Spy. B peace. Tech -> P, 100g. Trade for Fusion Power with A, dissolve alliance. 1937 Tech -> P, 100g. 1937-42 Component #1-6. 1942 Trade for Fundamentalism with P, alliance dissolved. 1943 Module #1. 1945 Module #2. Disband N-Chariot and Howitzer. 1947 Module #3. Launch (estimated arrival 1962). Pollution and a stolen square => starved down to pop 18 from 25. 1949 P declares war. 1951 Manufacturing Plant. Armour kld by P. 1952 Howitzer. 1953 Labour Union. B sneak attack. N-Settler kld by B :mad. 1954-62 Mech Infs/Fighter/Howitzers/ Armours. Spy Captured. 1958 B launch eta 1963 . 1962 Arrive at AC. Civ Rating 13% |
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posted March 27, 2001 14:54
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3500 BC Mongols: peace 3450 BC Alphabet Warrior 3250 BC Warrior 3100 BC Warrior 3000 BC Code of Laws Mongols: trade Ceremonial Burial 2950 BC French: peace; trade Currency 2700 BC Hut: 25 gold 2300 BC Hut: 50 gold 2250 BC Marketplace 2050 BC Writing Hut: Horseback Riding 1850 BC Carthaginians: peace; trade Bronze Working 1800 BC Mongols: war 1750 BC Library French: war Mongols: peace 1550 BC Hut: Archer 1350 BC Temple 1250 BC Literacy 1150 BC Hut: Archer 1000 BC Carthaginians: alliance; gift 200 gold French: trade Masonry; they give 100 gold for peace 950 BC Hut: Legion 825 BC Hut: Map Making Carthaginians: share maps 800 BC Japanese: alliance; share maps; gift 200 gold 675 BC Republic Japanese: trade Warrior Code French: alliance; share maps Mongols: trade Iron Working 625 BC Gov: Republic 600 BC Persians: peace; trade Wheel; share maps 475 BC French: trade Construction; gift 25 gold japanese: gift 25 gold 450 BC Colosseum Start WLTCD, size 4 425 BC Carthaginians: gift 150 gold 400 BC Carthaginians: gift Mysticism 350 BC Aztecs: peace; share maps 325 BC Aqueduct 250 BC End WLTCD, size 12 200 BC Trade 175 BC Build Dye Caravan 100 BC Build Gems Caravan 75 BC Build Gold Caravan 40 AD Banking 140 AD Bank 160 AD French: trade Bridge Building, Monarchy; cancel alliance Japanese: trade Polytheism; cancel alliance Aztecs: trade Pottery, Seafaring Persians: trade Mathematics Carthaginians: trade Engineering; gift 100 gold 440 AD Build Coal Caravan 460 AD Philosophy, Medicine Dye to Tenochtitlan (demanded): 392 gold Gems to Susa (demanded): 392 gold 480 AD Sanitation Start WLTCD, size 12 500 AD Sewer System 520 AD Gold to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 224 gold End WLTCD, size 13 620 AD Monotheism 640 AD Cathedral Start WLTCD, size 13 Aztecs: trade Astronomy Carthaginians: gift 50 gold 760 AD End WLTCD, size 19 780 AD Build Wine Caravan 820 AD University 840 AD University 1020 AD French: trade Feudalism Aztecs: trade Navigation 1040 AD Coal to Tenochtitlan (demanded): 312 gold 1060 AD Invention 1180 AD Theology Start WLTCD, size 19 Wine to Paris (not demanded): 64 gold 1220 AD End WLTCD, size 20 1300 AD Democracy 1320 AD Aztecs: trade Physics 1340 AD Gov: Democracy 1400 AD Build Wine Caravan 1440 AD Gunpowder 1480 AD Build Wool Caravan 1530 AD Magnetism Aztecs: trade Economics Carthaginians: gift 100 gold 1540 AD Stock Exchange 1600 AD Explosives 1610 AD Engineer 1620 AD Engineer 1630 AD Carthaginians: gift 200 gold 1660 AD Metallurgy Aztecs: trade Steam Engine 1730 AD Electricity 1750 AD Aztecs: trade Railroad Carthaginians: trade Conscription; gift 200 gold 1754 AD Wine to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 89 gold 1756 AD Build Dye Caravan 1760 AD Refrigeration 1762 AD Supermarket 1764 AD Wool to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 89 gold 1770 AD Carthaginians: gift 150 gold 1774 AD Chivalry Start WLTPD, size 18 1790 AD Industrialization Persians: alliance; gift 200 gold Carthaginians: gift 50 gold 1798 AD End WLTPD, size 28 1804 AD Corporation 1816 AD Refining Dye to Pasargadae (demanded): 168 gold Japanese: trade Leadership Persians: gift 100 gold Carthaginians: gift 100 gold 1818 AD Build Wine Freight 1822 AD Wine to Rheims (demanded): 105 gold 1824 AD Build Oil Freight 1826 AD Combustion Persians: trade Steel; gift 200 gold Carthaginians: gift 100 gold Aztecs: trade Electronics 1838 AD Automobile 1840 AD Superhighways 1848 AD Mass Production French: trade Tactics; alliance; gift 200 gold Persians: gift 75 gold Carthaginians: gift 100 gold Sell Sewer System 1851 AD Mass Transit Sell Aqueduct Oil to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 252 gold 1853 AD Build Coal Freight Machine Tools Aztecs: trade Theory of Gravity 1857 AD Power Plant 1858 AD Miniaturization Coal to Carthage (demanded): 452 gold 1859 AD Build Dye Caravan 1860 AD Build Cloth Caravan Aztecs: trade Mobile Warfare French: gift 75 gold Persians: gift 200 gold Carthaginians: gift 50 gold 1862 AD Computers 1863 AD Research Lab 1864 AD Cloth to Carthage (not demanded): 181 gold 1865 AD Build Gold Caravan 1866 AD Build Oil Freight Robotics French: trade Atomic Theory; gift 200 gold Persians: gift 150 gold Carthaginians: gift 50 gold 1867 AD French: gift 150 gold Persians: gift 50 gold Carthaginians: gift 50 gold 1868 AD French: gift 100 gold Persians: gift 50 gold Carthaginians: gift 150 gold 1870 AD Flight Dye to Tlaxcala (demanded): 302 gold 1872 AD Persians: gift 100 gold Carthaginians: gift 150 gold 1873 AD Manufacturing Plant 1874 AD Radio 1876 AD Oil to Tlaxcala (demanded): 528 gold 1877 AD Advanced Flight Aztecs: trade Communism 1878 AD Gold to Persepolis (demanded): 468 gold 1881 AD Rocketry 1886 AD Space Flight 1887 AD Apollo Program 1891 AD Plastics 1892 AD French: gift 150 gold Persians: gift 50 gold Carthaginians: gift 100 gold 1896 AD Nuclear Fission 1900 AD French: gift 150 gold 1901 AD Nuclear Power Persians: gift 50 gold Carthaginians: gift 100 gold 1907 AD Laser 1909 AD Build Gold Freight 1910 AD Build Oil Freight 1912 AD Aztecs: trade Genetic Engineering 1914 AD Superconductor 1915 AD Gold to Kagoshima (demanded): 318 gold 1916 AD Oil to Carthage (not demanded): 104 gold 1918 AD Fusion Power Launch 1933 AD Alpha Centauri
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Paul
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posted May 02, 2001 14:44
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It took some time , but I finally made the comparison table for this game. | |