Why does an undefended size 1 city sometimes raze and sometimes you can capture it?.Walls or no walls.

thats a poor rephrase.

Anyway I think I know why just as I hit submit.

As you eliminate citizens from attacks,the city's food box gets smaller.ie-size 4 box is bigger than size 3.As the box gets smaller,the food amount stays the same.The result is a half full size 4 foodbox becomes a full size 1 food box for example.If the box is full,you capture.Less than full=razed.The game does food first in its calculation,IIRC.You enter city,calculations are done done,results are displayed.

How does that sound?

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Scouse Git[1]

Yes. Near the start of my current game I watched the barbs take a neighbouring A1's size one city. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a city which was due to go to size two because it had only just been founded.

It made me think I have maybe been missing the occasional "run away, run away" opportunity when barbs turn up inconveniently early. I had assumed that a size one city would be extinguished upon falling to the barbs and so I think there must have been times I have simply left my warriors to die valiantly (and to take the city down with them).

Seemingly, moving out of even a size one city would preserve it.

You would need to be ready with a plan to deal with the barbs generated within the city. I watched the barb city grow rapidly to size three (they don't delay growth by building any settlers). The A1 isn't much pestered by barb attacks (although things seem more evenly matched when it is doing the attacking) but a human player would be hard pressed to hold them off early daws if he or she hadn't the wherewithall to bribe.

Come to think of it, there must be quite a little bundle of tactics around this situation. I rather think that I may actually have responded to the appearance of nearby barbs by moving a unit towards, and into, an undefended size one city. Bearing in mind how much more effective it is for the human player to attack a barb than to defend against him it may sometimes pay to hold back, let the undefended city fall, hang around for it to grow to size two and then attack. I have a suspicion barbs don't fortify themselves in cities. If the city is shield rich enough to churn out a unit in the meantime it will assuredly emerge in search of plunder rather than sitting tight to defend. Which will afford a chance to pick it off. But the unit which originally takes the city seemingly stays engrossed with its looting and pillaging activities and never sallies forth. So a horseman could hang around with impunity waiting for the moment to strike.

Might all take a bit of timing.

By the by, in another thread I mentioned that when you bribe a city back it is cheap and you sometimes get a little treasure trove of units. I forgot to mention one unit often found - a diplo (converted barb chief). In fact you can even get two because barb bands quite like temporarily visiting the flesh pots of a barb city.

quote: Originally posted by ZoboZeWarrior on 03-15-2001 06:22 AM If you want to destry a small city, i think it's possible to disband this city (you must not have any units in it and select the city then disband her). But this is some time that I haven't play to Civ2 ... So I may be wrong.

In fact you are wrong.
The only way to destroy a city size one all by yourself is to rushbuild a settler.
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