Reputation is as annoying as the High Council. Disregard utterly.

In MP, however, Reputation is important.

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quote: Originally posted by jcarkey on 01-21-2001 03:43 PM Reputation is just a stupid feature.

Not quite. I hate not being able to go beyond Cease Fire and have all their units next to my cities because they think I am a bad guy. (my intentions are good )

quote: Originally posted by Smokey tha nuke man on 01-21-2001 04:52 PM i love having a crappy reputation.

That's because you have the «nuke factor» Smokey

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 01-16-2001 05:46 AM Hi Sarge, long time no see! Why is reputation (as counted by the game) important in MP - I can see why reputation (as perceived by the other players) is important, but not the other????

Because in SP you can merely put in your time at the game and win (unless, of course, you're stupid). But in MP if you go around backstabbing and so on, the people you play against remember you for the bastard you are. The computer forgets everytime you restart a game.

quote: Originally posted by Sergeant Sheets on 01-21-2001 07:44 PM Because in SP you can merely put in your time at the game and win (unless, of course, you're stupid

I am stupid

I was not advocating keeping up a spotless rep. I was questioning if the AI suffers as you do when breaking treaties. In late game the AI acts as if you have called their mother bad bad names. This is a known fact.
I can win 95% of the time in Emperor, not 100% (with my no saves policy) so I am stupid!

In multiplayer things are indeed different no question about it. I remember my first ever game. I discovered an ungaurded city of one of my fellow players. I contacted him and requested that he gives me warrior code or else his city is history. He bowed before my request and gave me the tech.

Nevertheless I captured - destroyed his city as well. He never trusted me again - and I can understand it. From that game on I try to keep my word (if it's my interest of course )

A funny note is that what he DID give me was CODE OF LAWS, not warrior code. But I was so excited that my cohersion had worked (it was my first multiplayer game) that I didn't notice untill much later. Clever guy!

In my most recent game — standard Earth map at King level — the AI Mongols broke cease-fires with me three times in a row. Believe it or not, their reputation actually suffered a one-point hit each time they violated their word.

It doesn't always punish itself that way, though. Most of the time I have to go in and manually set their reputation lower for each treaty/cease-fire violation (same w/breaking an alliance). Didn't have to w/the AI Mongols. I don't know why, either, other than the fact that maybe breaking an agreement one turn after it's signed may be the impetus the AI needs to degrade itself regarding reputation. Or maybe it was because the Mongols were the "supreme" power at the time of the first cease-fire violation; problem is, they were only a "strong" power after the third violation, yet the reputation still went down for them.

When you begin a game, activate te cheat menu and toggle the "scenario" switch. This option will always save the game as a scenario, but it will play like an ordinary game. Mind you, this is on a Macintosh ... it's possible a PC has a slightly different route towards scenario-hood (but shouldn't, since the Mac version is based on the PC version).

Then go under "Edit King" in the menu bar and that will bring up a submenu listing various attributes and attitudes, including reputation. Enter that menu and, voila, you can alter the reputation of the AI who has violated a cease-fire, peace treaty or broken an alliance with you.

The points go like this:

1 = Cease-fire violation.
2 = Peace treaty violation.
3 = Abrogation of an alliance.

If you don't mind having the (Scenario) tagged at the end of your games that end up in the Top Five Hall of Fame screen, that's how you would access the "Reputation" menu. Also, the programming attaches a (Cheat) on those same game files, which, to me, is stupid because if you want to play as a scenario, you have no choice but to activate the cheat menu.

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Debeest:

Sure it's the "Reputation" menu. Says so right on the option. Also, whenever you type in a number, the reputation either goes up or down. Example: If you have an "excellent" reputation, the number "1" will appear in the menu. If you are "spotless" the number "0" will appear. The higher the number, the worse your reputation; the reverse is true for a better reputation.