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arii


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posted December 12, 2000 09:36   Click Here to See the Profile for ariiClick Here to Email arii Visit arii's Homepage!
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I thought it was interesting that when you build a settler in a size 5 city that has specialists, you keep them. Although in theory you should not be able to have specialist in a size 4 city. This is especially good with 2 * production when you don't have to worry about the food production.
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posted December 12, 2000 09:48   Click Here to See the Profile for MingClick Here to Email Ming Visit Ming's Homepage!
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REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know that. THANKS!

Mercantile


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posted December 12, 2000 11:17   Click Here to See the Profile for MercantileClick Here to Email Mercantile Visit Mercantile's Homepage!
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yes this happens to me quite frequently, and being the newbie that i am i always figured it was moot so i removed the other scientist and put him back to work. I never once bothered to check to see if he was more productive as a specialist I wonder how many games i have lost by this , er.... probably not many
Deity Dude


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posted December 13, 2000 12:23   Click Here to See the Profile for Deity DudeClick Here to Email Deity Dude Visit Deity Dude's Homepage!
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Beleive it or not I've had a size 4 city with 3 scientists and one citizen
Blaupanzer


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posted December 13, 2000 13:54   Click Here to See the Profile for BlaupanzerClick Here to Email Blaupanzer Visit Blaupanzer's Homepage!
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I often end up with the fourth citizen as an entertainer in some cities as the empire rapidly exceeds the limits of the governments available. They seem to work fine. Wasn't aware of a limit like "5 citizens before first specialist," at least in 2.42.
Hermann the Lombard


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posted December 13, 2000 14:30   Click Here to See the Profile for Hermann the LombardClick Here to Email Hermann the Lombard Visit Hermann the Lombard's Homepage!
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Originally posted by Ming on 12-12-2000 09:48 AM
REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know that. THANKS!

One more for your list of Undocumented Features! Isn't it amazing that after all this time, something as basic as this turns up? 'Course, there are a lot more Size 5 cities around now for some reason.

Edward


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posted December 13, 2000 15:28   Click Here to See the Profile for EdwardClick Here to Email Edward Visit Edward's Homepage!
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Blaupanzer,

The "rule" might be better stated:

You can't turn a citizen into a scientist or taxman if the city has fewer than five citizens.

My version is happy to let me have as many entertainers as I want (thank heavens) but enforces the above rule about other specialists.

cavebear


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posted December 14, 2000 16:30   Click Here to See the Profile for cavebearClick Here to Email cavebear Visit cavebear's Homepage!
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If I recall correctly, Xin Yu mentioned that as an essential part of his "Size 5 city" strategy a month or 2 ago.

The idea was (I think) to get cities to size 5, assign some workers as scientists (or was it taxmen) and then you could let them build down through hunger for a number of turns, getting greater benefits from the specialists than the loss of regular population would be.

It was a very difficult strategy to maintain, but I tried it and found the results favorable. I just don't remember to follow it closely enough in regular games.

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posted December 14, 2000 19:08   Click Here to See the Profile for MingClick Here to Email Ming Visit Ming's Homepage!
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I too use the size 5 strategy on a selective basis.
But I don't remember Xin advocating that you starve your cities down a size... Yes, he did starve them, but he didn't let them drop a pop.
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posted December 15, 2000 21:51   Click Here to See the Profile for SilverDragonClick Here to Email SilverDragon Visit SilverDragon's Homepage!
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Originally posted by Ming on 12-14-2000 07:08 PM
drop a pop.

That's a funny rhyme. I don't know why, it just is.

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posted December 17, 2000 21:26   Click Here to See the Profile for Caesar the GreatClick Here to Email Caesar the Great Visit Caesar the Great's Homepage!
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I do this all the time... in 2x production games when I have exactly 8 food, or just really badly need a settler.
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