I have altered some of the attitudes, and I hope it goes the way I planned. I have ver 2.4.2 so I hope this doesn't really screw up the MPG folks.

Now players, if you would be so kind as to note a few things for me as you play? I would be interested in knowing what civ2 version you have, so I can maybe compare how the AI behaved and make a better scenario next time.

Secondly, and this is what I'm most interested in, is your reputation at the end of the game. I'd like to know what your reputation is, and if this is higher, about the same, or lower than what your reputation usually is.

Finally, I would like to know which city site you selected. If you want to know what I believe is the most challenging city site, read on. If not, please avert your eyes to the little "X" in the upper right corner and click.

Okay, I test-played this from "all" the possible starting locations once. I found that the most challenging starting location, for whatever reason, seemed to be the . . .

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Now's the time to leave . . .

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I found the northern-most location most challenging. Again, good luck.

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Hi, I've been watching the Fortnight threads,
for a week or so, and playing the comparison games to sharpen my OCC skills.

So I chose this game as a chance to jump in and introduce myself. Unfortunately I didn't do so well...

Here's my log:

Game Version: MGE
Starting Position: South position.

Summary:

Founded City: 3900 BC
Switch To Monarchy: 1800 BC
Colussus: 1500 BC
Switch To Republic: 525 BC
Die: 120 AD

-3900 Founded Persepolis, fortified 1 warrior in city, using 1 settler and 1 warrior for exploration.

-3800 Horseback Riding (hut)

-3700 Warrior.

-3600 Alliance: allied, Ceremonial Burial, Alphabet, Map Making, they refused sharing maps/gift. (Worshipful)

-3500 Warrior. Begin Colussus.

-3350 Sky People: Code of Laws. Shared Maps, No alliance. They started out enthusiastic, became worshipful.

-3250 Sky People and Alliance declare war.

-2950 Alliance at war with Droids. Warrior destroyed by barbarians. Writing from Alliance, Icy.

-2800 Lost a settler to barbarians.

-2400 Alliance. They were icy, refused gifts, or to trade knowledge, demanded 50 gold. Then they gave me Trade as a gift.

-2000 Monarchy. Begin Revolution.

-1800 Switch to Monarchy.

-1550 Colussus.

-1500 Alliance cancel alliance, as I won't declare war on sky people.

-1450 Alliance with sky people, for declaring war on Alliance. Mysticsm as gift.

-1100 Cease fire with alliance, as they had a catapult right by my settler...

-1050 Construction. Library.

-825 Sky People are icy, as I refuse to declare war on Alliance.

-800 Market Place.

-650 Alliance sneak attack and kill a settler.

-550 Republic. Begin Revolution. Mathematics, polytheism from sky people

-525 Colesseum. Switch to republic, begin WLTCD size 4. Disband two warriors.

-450 Aquaduct.

-375 Stupid Mistake: I need a temple. Disband warrior to try to build temple. Doesn't work.

-350 End WLTCD cause I'm an idiot and forgot to build a temple.

-325 Temple Begin WLTCD again (size 9)

-300 Sky People cancel alliance. Warrior.

-250 Cease fire with Alliance.

-225 End WLTCD, size 12.

-200 Philosophy Astronomy, begin Copernicus.
Caravan. Expel Rebel diplomat.

-175 Silver caravan arrives in satsuma, 76 gold. +7 trade route.

-75 Alliance has catapult outside city, I pay 100 gold, but they still won't go to peace as I won't declare war on sky people (who have elephants outside my city).

40 Medicine.

80 War with Sky people, I insisted they withdraw troops while they were uncooperative (the troops were stealing resource squares from my city.)

100 Sky people are too dumb to come take my city with nearby elephants.

120 Alliance aren't, they sneak attack, and wipe me out. Bummer.

My reputation throughout was Excellent, which is what usually happens when I break alliances/declare war in order to get in the graces of another civ.

Overall the AI behaved like they normally do in MGE. I usually find that I can't win OCC games in MGE unless I'm in a fairly isolated spot. And definetly not if I'm between two warring civs.

I'll try it again on 2.4.2 tomorrow.

Note to everyone else: Sadly, I will be departing for Korea in one week for a 'business' trip. I will be gone approximately three weeks, and I do not know what kind of internet access I will have over there. I likely will not be able to get a scenario to Paul. I will work on one in my free time because I think it is fun. It should be ready to go for, say, the OCC Fortnight #9. Just a guess, but I want to let you know so someone can cover and provide a scenario.

Of course, if no one wants to make a scenario, you can just random start a map and save it like the "good-ole" days.

just have fun with it.

I can’t compare my rating as I don’t normally look at it.

Version 2.42

AC 1817

Monarchy 2050 BC
Republic 525 BC
Democracy 460 AD

Colossus 2200 BC
Copernicus 200 BC
Shakespeare 260 AD
Newton 720 AD
Darwin 1160 AD
Apollo 1720 AD

1st Trade 750 BC
2nd 625 BC
3rd 525 BC

Trade 1300 BC
Construction 1750 BC
Sanitation 40 AD
Refrigeration 960 AD
Automobile 1340 AD
Computers 1560 AD
Space Flight 1710 AD

Pop 12 60 AD
Pop 24 1320 AD

Rating Cruel 35% Score 274

3900 BC Penge founded Whale, Oasis, Wine, Gold

Use Settler to boost Pop
3750 BC Warriors
3600 BC Exchange Bronze Working for Alphabet with Alliance
Exchange Pottery for Ceremonial Burial with Alliance
Exchange Masonry for Map Making with Alliance
Alliance
3550BC Share maps with Alliance
3150 BC Code of Laws
3000 BC 25 Gold from Alliance
2950 BC Use Settler to boost Pop
2900 BC Exchange Currency for Writing with Alliance
50 Gold from Alliance
2750 BC Share maps with Alliance
2200 BC Monarchy. Revolution
Colossus
2100 BC Exchange Monarchy for Mathematics with Alliance
150 Gold from Alliance
2050 BC Monarchy established
Diplomat
1950 BC Granary
1750 BC Exchange Code of Laws for Construction with Alliance
1600 BC Library
1500 BC 50 Gold from Alliance
Give Construction, Writing, Mathematics to Smugglers
Alliance with Smugglers
Horseback Riding from Smugglers
Share maps with Alliance
Temple
1300 BC 50 Gold from Alliance
Share maps with Smugglers
Trade
1150 BC Exchange Trade for Mysticism with Alliance
Exchange Trade for Seafaring with Smugglers
1100 BC Marketplace
775 BC Literacy
750 BC Silk Caravan to Hastings 32 Gold
150 Gold from Alliance
Give Literacy, Mysticism to Smugglers
725 BC Bribe Alliance Trireme 92 Gold
650 BC Give Construction to Sky People
Treaty with Sky People
625 BC Gold Caravan to Kyoto 84 Gold
600 BC Philosophy
Republic. Revolution
550 BC Give Republic to Alliance
Give Horseback Riding to Sky People
Give Republic to Smugglers
75 Gold from Smugglers
Give Construction, Republic, Philosophy, Seafaring, Mysticism, Monarchy to Sand People
Treaty with Sand People
525 BC Republic established
Coal Caravan to Karakorum 70 Gold
Share maps with Alliance, Smugglers
WLTCD Pop 6
500 BC Colosseum
475 BC 75 Gold from Alliance
450 BC WLTCD ends Pop 8
425 BC 150 Gold from Smugglers
Aqueduct
WLTCD Pop 8
Astronomy
375 BC 50 Gold from Alliance
350 BC Sand People declare War
325 BC Give Philosophy to Alliance
50 Gold from Alliance
Give Philosophy to Smugglers
Pop 12
300 BC WLTCD ends Pop 12
225 BC Medicine
200 BC Copernicus
175 BC 75 Gold from Smugglers
125 BC Wheel
100 BC Give Republic to Sky People
25 BC Engineering
1 AD Exchange Wheel for Iron Working with Alliance
100 gold from Alliance
Give Wheel to Smugglers
150 Gold from Smugglers
40 AD Spice Caravan to Carmathen 288 Gold
Share maps with Smugglers, Alliance
Sanitation
60 AD WLTCD Pop 12
Sewer
100 AD WLTCD ends Pop 13
140 AD University (advance)
160 AD Coal Caravan to Carmarthen 300 Gold
200 AD Theory of Gravity
220 AD Exchange Engineering for Banking with Smugglers
75 Gold from Smugglers
Exchange Sanitation for Warrior Code with Alliance
100 Gold from Alliance
260 AD Shakespeare
Sell Colosseum
WLTCD Pop 13
280 AD Sell Temple
320 AD University
Invention
340 AD Sell Granary
360 AD 100 Gold to Sky-People
Treaty with Sky People
Exchange Invention for Bridge Building with Smugglers
Exchange Astronomy for Feudalism with Smugglers
100 Gold from Smugglers
100 Gold from Alliance
Bank
380 AD WLTCD ends Pop 18
400 AD Democracy. Revolution
420 AD 50 Gold from Smugglers
460 AD Democracy established
480 AD 50 Gold to Droids
Give Writing to Droids
Give Seafaring to Droids
500 AD Chemistry
520 AD WLTPD Pop 18
580 AD WLTPD ends Pop 20
Gunpowder
640 AD Give Democracy to Smugglers
25 Gold from Smugglers
Give Invention to Alliance
50 Gold from alliance
640 AD Explosives
700 AD Economics
720 AD 150 Gold from Alliance
Newton
740 AD Exchange Gunpowder for Navigation with Smugglers
50 Gold from Smugglers
Metallurgy
760 AD Engineers
800 AD Physics
820 AD Stock Exchange
860 AD Magnetism
920 AD Electricity
960 AD Refrigeration
1000 AD Steam Engine
1020 AD Supermarket
1040 AD Exchange Navigation for Chivalry with Alliance
100 gold from Alliance
WLTCD Pop 19
1060 AD Engineers
Railroad
1140 AD Industrialisation
1160 AD Darwin
Corporation
Refining
1220 AD Treaty with Jedi
Give Railroad, Physics to Smugglers
50 Gold from Smugglers
1240 AD Steel
1300 AD Combustion
1320 AD Oil Caravan to Tlatelolco 242 Gold
WLTCD ends Pop 24
1340 AD Automobile
1380 AD 50 Gold from Alliance
Disband Warrior
Superhighways
Mass Production
1420 AD Mass Transit
Electronics
1460 AD Conscription
1480 AD Exchange Railroad for Leadership with Alliance
1500 AD Tactics
1520 AD Factory
Machine Tools
1540 AD Exchange Steam Engine for Polytheism with Smugglers
Give Conscription to Smugglers
Hydro Plant
Miniaturisation
1550 AD Sell Sewer
1560 AD Barracks
Computers
1570 AD Sell Aqueduct
Alpine Troops
1580 AD Research Lab
Mobile Warfare
1600 AD 100 Gold from Alliance
Robotics
1610 AD Disband Warrior
Manufacturing Plant
1620 AD Flight
1640 AD Radio
1670 AD Advanced Flight
1690 AD Rocketry
Armour
1710 AD Space Flight
1720 AD Apollo
1740 AD Plastics
1754 AD Atomic Theory
1760 AD Nuclear Fission
1764 AD Nuclear Power
1768 AD Laser
1772 AD Superconductor
1774 AD 15 Structurals
1784 AD Sneak Attack by Sky People
1786 AD Give Advanced Flight to Smugglers
1788 AD 6 Components
1800 AD Sell Research Lab
1802 AD Launch
1805 AD Recycling
1808 AD Exchange Railroad for Monotheism with Sand People
Treaty with Sand People
1809 AD Give Railroad to Sky People
Treaty with Sky People
Exchange Explosives for Communism with Alliance
1810 AD Recyling Centre
1812 AD Droids steal Space flight
1813 AD Sneak attack by Droids
1814 AD Sneak attack by Sand People
Boost luxuries rate to 100 %
1815 AD WLTPD Pop 24 (No surplus food)
1817 AD AC
Darth Vader the Cruel 35 % Score 274

I had food trouble towards the end. Both engineers were lost , but my settler and AI engineers cleaned up some of the pollution being produced.

My reputation started as excellent, went down to honourable when I declared war on the sand people (600AD), and returned to excellent around 1100AD when all my allies (everyone but the sand people) were at peace with one another.

I had no trouble keeping all the city squares to myself. 3 AI cities were founded on my landmass, but I was allied with all of them.

v242 diety

Arrival in 1811

1450BC - switched to Monarchy
425BC - switched to Republic
380AD - switched to Democracy

2100BC - Colossus
40AD - Copernicus' Observatory
360AD - Shakespeare's Theatre
880AD - Isaac Newton's College
1240AD - Darwin's Voyage
1740AD - Apollo Program

975BC - Trade
725BC - Construction
220AD - Sanitation
1020AD - Refigeration
1340AD - Automobile
1590AD - Computers
1730AD - Space Flight

225BC - size 12
580AD - size 21
1510AD - size 29

220AD - 1st Trade route
220AD - 2nd Trade route
300AD - 3rd Trade route

3900BC - found Palpatine (wine, gold, oasis, whale)
3850BC - 1 settler joins city
(built two warriors before switching to colossus)
3700BC - Archers (hut) - supported
3100BC - Alphabet, another settler joins city (now pop 4)
2600BC - Code of Laws
2100BC - Ceremonial Burial, built Colossus
1600BC - built Marketplace
1550BC - Monarchy, revolution
1450BC - switched to Monarchy
975BC - Trade
925BC - built Marco Polo's Embassy
Sky-People - acquire Map Making, trade maps, alliance
Alliance - acquire Writing, Literacy, alliance, 100 gold
Sand People - trade maps, peace
Jedi's - trade maps, alliance (war with Sand People), 50 gold
Droids - The Wheel, peace
Smugglers - war
(reputation is Excellent)
875BC - built Library
825BC - built Temple
725BC - Construction
Alliance - aquire Horseback Riding, 25 gold
Droids - acquire Warrior code, alliance (give them 50 gold), 125 gold
Jedi - 50 gold
Sand People - cease fire
575BC - built Colloseum, 50 gold (Jedi)
500BC - built Aqueduct
475BC - The Republic, revolution
Droids - Seafaring, 75 gold
Rebels - 50 gold
Jedi's - 100 gold
Sand People - war
425BC - built Diplomat, switched to Republic
400BC - begin WLTCD (pop is 5)
300BC - Mathematics (Droids), Mysticism (Sky-People)
275BC - bribed smuggler Trireme for 240 gold
250BC - 50 gold (Alliance), 100 gold (Droids), bribed Chariot for 160 gold
225BC - size 12
125BC - Astronomy
125BC - Engineering (Sky People), Banking & 50 gold (Droids), 50 gold (Jedi)
1AD - alliance with Smugglers, 100 gold
peace with Sand People
40AD - build Copernicus' Observatory
80AD - Philosophy, Medicine, build gold caravan
120AD - build coal caravan
160AD - build spice caravan
180AD - 50 gold (Jedi), Invention & 150 gold (Droids), 25 gold (Alliance)
220AD - Sanitation
1st Trade route - 112 gold Gold to Trondheim (not demanded)
2nd Trade route - 112 gold Coal to Trondheim (not demanded)
300AD - Democracy, 3rd Trade route - 122 gold spice to Cardiff (not demanded), revolution
340AD - sell colosseum
360AD - built Shakepseare's Theatre, sell temple, 100 gold (Alliance), 150 gold (Droids), disband chariot
380AD - built Sewer System, switched to Democracy
400AD - begin WLTPD
440AD - University, acquire Iron Working & 50 gold (Droids)
520AD - Bridge Building
580AD - size 21, ending WLTPD
600AD - Theory of Gravity, 100 gold (Droids)
war with Sand People (reputation has fallen to honorable)
620AD - built University
660AD - Economics
740AD - Gunpowder
780AD - Explosives
Robots - Navigation, 100 gold
800AD - built Engineer, disband diplomat
820AD - built Engineer
840AD - Metallurgy
880AD - built Isaac Newton's College, 200 gold (Droids), 50 gold (Jedi)
900AD - Physics
920AD - built Stock Exchange
940AD - Magnetism
980AD - Electricity, Conscription (Alliance)
1000AD - 150 gold (Droids)
1020AD - Refrigeration
1040AD - built Engineer
1060AD - Steam Engine
1080AD - Atomic Theory (Jedi)
1100AD - Railroad
1120AD - 150 gold (Droids) At this point, I'm allied with everyone but the sand people, and everyone is at peace with each other except the sand people. My reputation is "excellent"
1140AD - Industrialization
1160AD - begin WLTPD (size is 18)
1220AD - The Corporation
1240AD - built Darwin's Voyage, Refining, Combustion
1280AD - Steel
1340AD - Automobile, 250 gold (oil to Tlateloco)
1360AD - Feudalism, built Superhighway, end WLTPD (pop is 27)
1400AD - Chivalry
1440AD - Leadership
1480AD - Tactics, begin WLTPD (pop is 27)
1510AD - Machine Tools, end WLTPD (pop is 29), sell sewer system, 988 gold (demanded coal to Tlateloco)
1520AD - sell aqueduct
1530AD - Electronics
1550AD - Miniturization
1570AD - Mass Production
1590AD - Computers
1600AD - built Research Lab
1610AD - Mobile Warfare
1630AD - Robotics
1640AD - Flight (Droids)
1660AD - Radio
1680AD - Advanced Flight, built Factory, disband warrior
1690AD - built Power Plant
1700AD - Rocketry
1710AD - built Manufacturing Plant
1730AD - Space Flight
1740AD - Apollo Program
1750AD - Plastics
1754AD - Nuclear Fission
1758AD - Nuclear Power
1762AD - The Laser
1766AD - Superconductor, engineers lost due to famine
1770AD - Fusion Power, sell research lab
1772AD - sell university, famine over (size now 26)
1774AD - sell library
1778AD - 15 structurals done
1790AD - 6 modules done, AI engineers are cleaning up a lot of my polution
1796AD - Launch
1797AD - build barracks, then a bunch of defensive units
1800AD - barb pikemen on mountain fortress are both killed
1811AD - Arrival at AC

v2.42 - deity
Chose Northern Site - Settler can run from mountain if attacked
Will attempt to Celebrate continually pre Republic

3950 started mining city site - New Death Star founded
3150 city now forested add settler to city => size 3; WLDD; hut 50g
3100 Ceremonial Burial, need 50% lux to maintain celebration
3050 Temple, start Colossus
2700 Alliance with Sky People, Alphabet + Code of Laws
2250 Sky People, Monarchy + Map Making; Revolution
2200 Alliance with The Alliance, Writing, Mysticism, Mathematics + 150g
at his point Pathetic & Spotless with Enthusiastic allies
2050 MONARCHY established (ouch 200 years of anarchy)
2000 now only need 40% luxuries to maintain WLKD (gives 10 sci rather than 9)
1950 The Alliance, 50g
1900 Sky People, maps + 50g; COLOSSUS now only need 30% luxuries
1850 The Alliance, maps
1800 Second Settler joins city => size 4 (8+2 food, 24 trade, 17 sci, 8 prod)
1650 Astronomy
1600 give Astronomy to allies get 50g
1550 Library
1250 TRADE, give to allies get Literacy, CONSTRUCTION + 200g
1200 Marketplace now only 20% lux
1100 Sky People, maps + 150g
1000 TRADE ROUTE 1 - Gems to Satsuma 32g
0975 size=5 now need 30% lux (rats); allies, 50g
0950 only need 20% now?
0925 Philosophy => The Republic, REPUBLIC; TRADE ROUTE 2 - Gold to Satsuma 40g
0900 Coloseum size=6
we are still Pathetic & Spotless our allies Enthusiastic
0825 Aqueduct size=9
0750 WLCD stops @ SIZE12; need 20% lux; allies both share maps
we are Moderate & Spotless with Enthusiastic allies
0725 Rebels donate 50g; TRADE ROUTE 3 - Spice to Satsuma 72g
0700 Medicine
0575 City Walls - I'm getting paranoid!
0525 Horseback Riding
0425 give Horse get 100g
still Moderate & Spotless with Entusiastic squared.
0375 Satsuma upgrades (to 7) can now live with 10% lux
0350 The Wheel - give to allies
0325 allies give 125g
0300 COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY
0275 lost a turn to Civil Disorder - trade routes devalued & city went pearshaped - damn!
0225 Engineering - give to allies - maps from Sky People, 50g from Alliance
0125 SANITATION
0025 Sewer System; WLCD @12
1AD stop WLCD @13
0040 The University
0080 allies 75g + Warrior Code
0120 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE; WLCD @13
0180 Alliance offers Physics + 25g
0200 University
0220 Bridge Building
0340 WLCD stops @20 (no more food); Jedi peace
0360 Theory of Gravity
0380 Invention from Sky People
0440 ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE; Chemistry
0520 Gunpowder; Coal to Kagushima 107g
0560 Explosives
0580 Engineers
0600 Banking
0620 Engineers
0660 Bank
0680 Democracy; Revolution
0700 DEMOCRACY
0740 75g from allies
0760 Magnetism; 150g from allies
still Moderate & Spotless with Enthusiasic allies, Jedi are Hostile Peace
0800 Metallurgy
0860 Electricity
0900 Refrigeration
0920 Supermarket
0940 Steam Engine
now Strong & Spotless
0960 at last a food surplus WLPD @ 18
1000 Railroad (I have eight allied units within my city limits)
1020 DARWIN'S VOYAGE; Economics, Industrialisation
1040 size 21; Stock Exchange; The Corporation
1080 Feudalism + 100g from Sky People
1140 Combustion
1160 stop WLPD @24
1200 Steel
1240 Automobile
1260 Superhighways
1280 Electronics, 50g from SP
1320 Conscription
1360 Mass Production; "Our Diplomat foiled a Rebel Espionage Attempt!" - new to me!
Strong & Spotless, both allies Enthusiasic as are the now Peaceful Jedi
1400 Chivalry
1420 Mass Transit - probably a waste, but I have plenty of cash
1440 Leadership
1480 Tactics; wine to Tintagel 354g
1500 Machine Tools; Wine to Tintagel 364g
Strong, Spotless and everyone Enthusiastic
1530 Computers
1540 Research Lab
1550 Atomic Theory - ADVANCES IN ONE TURN - never had this at OCC before - sci=1640 beakers at 100% with no scientists
1560 Nuclear Fission
1570 Nuclear Power
1580 Mobile Warfare
1590 Robotics
1600 Flight
1610 Factory
1620 Radio; Hydro Plant
1640 Advanced Flight - AI Engineers are building me railroads!
1660 Rocketry
1680 SPACE FLIGHT
Alliance steals SF!
We are Strong & Spotless allies Enthusiastic, Jedi Cordial
New Death Star is now size 26 with airbases on the hill, mountain & oasis (other hill turned to plain some time ago)
1690 APOLLO PROGRAM
1700 Sky People ask 'nicely' for Rocketry swap for 100g (I hope this isn't a mistake, but I don't see how any of these guys can possibly outproduce me - so all I have to do is avoid war)
1710 The Laser - AI engineers are 'helpfully' irrigating my forested river squares - I may not be able to maintain 80 shields!
Strong & Spotless, SP & RA Enthusiasic Allies, Jedi Enthusiasic Peace
1740 Plastics - first Sky People Structural
1754 Superconductor
The 'price' of Fusion Power is 3,300 beakers almost double the previous advance!
1758 Peace with the Pirates (for 50g + Railroad); Peace with Droids (for Railroad & Democracy)
The 'price; of Fusion Power is now 1,950 WHAT IS GOING ON???
Time to give loads of techs to my friends and allies ...
We are Strong & Spotless, RA Enthusiastic, SP Worshipful, J & D Enthusiastic, P Cordial
1786 LAUNCH for 1801 - blastit - I thought I might just make my first ever eighteenth century landing
Do my bit for the environment with Recycling Center & Solar Plant, not to mention the odd Stealth fighter and Vet Armour
1801 LAND AC

I maintained an out of character Spotless throughout, two alliances from the start peace with everyone else never at war.

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Scouse Git[1]

If the latter happened to you, I would like to know (email, here, however), so that any future scenarios that I or others make will be enjoyable to all versions.

The early reviews seemed to be positive, and that's reassuring, but I'd like to hold my judgement until more MPGE people play it.

Good job SG1 -- you are in the lead. And Tom, 1811 is quite impressive considering you took time out to build Marco Polo's. I'm really surprised you had no AI contact until 300bc. That is definitely not what I was looking for.

(Note, my next post will explain the scenario from my point of view and may contain spoilers. Reading on may ruin any surprises the scenario may hold for you. I advise you to stop reading if you have not played this and/or do not want to have an unfair advantage)

I can't belive there have been no posts in almost 48 hours. Is the OCC breed dying out? I hope not...(!)

The main challenge I was hoping to present you players with was, you guessed it, winning back your resource squares taken by an Ally. In other words, “elbow room.” I set all the AI’s attitudes towards you at “one,” one a scale from 0-99 with 0 being friendliest and 99 being most hostile. Except for the Sandpeople – I made them hate everybody. I tried to vary the AI’s attitudes towards other AI’s, generally hating the Sandpeople, and weary of the Droids. All the “island” nations should have been generally friendly with each other, but each time I played it, they always seemed to war with each other. That’s okay, because I thought it was pretty neat having a war (between your allies) right on your front yard.

Basically, I was hoping for contact (and subsequent alliances) with 2-4 AI civs by 2500-2000 bc. Each time I test played (4 in all), this happened quite easily. With your 3 extra settlers, you had the option of rapid irrigation, mining, and roads over your resource squares, and I assumed a lot of you would take 2 or 3 settlers and do this, and then possibly rebuild them into your city. After making all these alliances as a size 4 city, you would face the challenge of winning back your resource squares taken by your Allies. The first two times, I would break the alliance, fortify a unit on the contested square, and hope for another alliance later. This resulted in several "reputation hits" and my final reputation was a lot lower than normal. That's why I asked you to look at this. On my third and fourth tries, I would use my settler to make the resource square less desirable. In one instance, this involved mining a Grassland Shield square to forest, and then later irrigating it back to plains once I controlled it (ouch!). But it kept my reputation in tact.

Other challenges:

Map Size: The map was ultra-small. I believe it was 32x32. It was the smallest I could make it, and most of it was ocean squares. I really wanted that AI to build secondary homes all around your city.

Trade: Who to trade with? You could possibly bribe a trireme and get better routes on different “continents,” or you could bus a caravan 5 squares away and get a small quick route established. You would have to worry about the AI destroying another AI city on your little rock, which happened to me once during test play, causing me to unexpectedly lose a trade route and unexpectedly throwing my city into disorder as a result.

Technology: I gave you and each of the island nations varied starting techs. When you meet, it should have been likely you could trade about 2 or 3 techs with each other. I planned for all these meetings to occur before monarchy, so everyone had a decision to make. Also, in the end game, I wanted the AI’s to have access to you so they could demand space flight, plastics, etc., and have you choose if you wanted to cancel an alliance over this, or to give it to them.

Droids: I gave them a lot of starting techs. I thought that if you met them, you would not be able to trade very much. It probably didn’t happen that way, though.

Sandpeople: Those barb pikemen on the rock were supposed to be there until well beyond the AD years started. I gave them a bunch of “Warrior” type techs, so that when they did break through, you would have to deal with a large and advanced military. For your benefit, I made some nice AI city spots on your side of the rock, so that the Sandpeople would have to fight through one or two AI’s cities to get to you. I also covered the West side of their half of the island with a lot of mountains and hills to discourage them from building port cities that pointed right to your location. I would not have expected those pikemen to last until the 18th century, though, as they did in Tom's game.

Alpha Centauri: There weren’t a lot of places for the AI to build new cities, which I hoped would prevent them from “Rush-building” a SS and launching it 7 years before you land on AC. I hate it when that happens.

Game Setup: When you started with 2 warriors and 4 settlers in 3900bc, each AI civ already had 3 cities built. They all had one settler, a warrior in each city, and the island nations each had a trireme with your half of the landmass in view of their trireme. Unfortunately, they seemed to want to attack the other island nations on their home islands rather than rapid expansion on your island. Maybe there is a way around this, but I’m just not sure how to manipulate it.

But you live and learn. Building Marco’s was not what I had in mind. And so far no one losing any resource squares for any length of time is also odd to me. I would have thought AI’s would be crawling all around your city. Oh well.

For my next scenario, whenever I can get around to doing it, I plan on a similar theme to OCC Fortnight #4, where there are several distinct and viable possibilities as to where you put your first city. That's all I can say, because I haven't started it yet, and probably won't start on it until I return from Korea in about 2 and a half weeks. I'm also conceptualizing an island scenario for future play on down the road.

As always, I appreciate the feedback you've given me here. I request more of it. Thanks.

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Bribing a trireme was important for this scenario. Delivering caravans to bigger cities (especially if they demanded the resource) off continent adds up over the game. Contacting all civs (for those not building Marco Polo ) is also important. Later advances would have been much more expensive for me if I hadn't been able to gift all my science to the other civs.

I've never had the AI launch a spaceship on me in an OCC game (not to say it doesn't happen ), so your worry about them having too much growth room is probably unfounded. What the lack of room did do was cause a lot of action on my doorstep. I've never had 3 AI cities close enough to threaten my resource squares before.

As far as loosing some of your city squares, it doesn't matter if the AI is crawling all around your city. It only matters if they build a city early and have it grow in size before you have grown enough to take all squares. When the AI starting building its cities on my continent, I was well on my way to size 12. I tended to adjust the squares I was using to the periphery of my city site. I doubt the AI actively adjusts the squares it cultivates.

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This scenario was actually alot of fun but my inability to allow ai cities so close(goes against my OCC instincts) turned it into a mad bloodlust.Besides would Vader peacefully coexist with the likes of Han or The Alliance?I think not

The highlights of my game:
Wonders Colossus -2100
Copernicus -400
Newton 20AD
Shakespeare 260
Darwin 720
Apollo 1680
Governments Monarchy -1750
Republic -875
Democracy 400AD
Trade Routes 480AD, 580AD, 700AD
Techs Construction -2050
Trade -875
Sanitation 140AD
Automobile 1240
Computers 1510
Space Flight 1670
(I never researched Refrigeration)
City Size 12 (-700) 21 (580 but was size 20 in 340)
Gold From Alliances/Barbarians 1475
From Trade 680

I played on the lower site because the grape special provided more shields. I only got into the low 60s for shields, but had about 30 freights to disband so I could build my space ship in the 24 turns.

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Here are the highlights. I was using MPG and chose the southern location.

Monarchy -1650
Republic - 325
Democracy 1180

Colossus -2000
Copes 480
Shakes 920
INC 1550
Darwin 1790
Apollo 1865

1st trade -125
2nd & 3rd 1 AD

Trade -1100
Cons -800
Sani 500
Refrig 1620
Auto 1800
Comp 1828
Space Flt 1852

Size 8 -250
12 -50
21 1772
max 25 1784

Tech City
Imporvement Misc Diplomacy
2 -3900 Build Vaderville (southern location), add settlers to city
5 -3750 Warriors Start Colossus
7 -3650 WC(h)
20 -3000 Alpha
24 -2800 Meet smugglers, give WC, masonry, get alliance & mapmaking
27 -2650 Meet Sky People, get CerBur, CoL for Pottery & Mapmaking, get alliance & 50g
28 -2600 Satsuma overlaps oasis & 1 river square
29 -2550 Smugglers at war w Sky People (good for me!)
31 -2450 Two Smuggler Warriors waste themselves on Sky Settler
35 -2250 Writing for Currency from Smugglers, they demand war on Sky People, I refuse, alliance dissolved
40 -2000 Colossus
46 -1700 Monarchy Revolution!
47 -1650 Monarchy
49 -1550 Library
56 -1200 Sky, Horse for Mon, dissolve alliance
57 -1150 Marketplace
58 -1100 Trade
62 -950 Temple
67 -825 Hides caravan
68 -800 Construction
72 -700 Gold caravan
75 -625 Diplomat Sky demand 100g, declare war
77 -575 Literacy Phalanx
79 -525 Add settlers to city
81 -475 Colossieum
83 -425 Diplomat
87 -325 Republic Rev, Repub
88 -300 Coal caqravan WLTCD (6)
89 -275 Meet smugglers, get Astro, Math, Myst, Poly for Con, BW, Repub, WC, alliance
90 -250 Cease fire with Sky people, give Trade to Alliance to maintain alliance
94 -150 Aqueduct Smugglers demand trade, declare war; I capture Hastings, take 37g & Bridge, they ask for peace, given
95 -125 Coal to Satsuma, 64g
98 -50 End WLTCD I(12)
99 -25 Phil, Univ Silver caravan
100 0 Silver to Satsuma, 180g, Hides to Satsuma,72g
103 60 Spice caravan Could've had the caravans delivered sooner if I didn't waste time looking for a trireme to bribe
104 80 Medicine Start Copes
105 100 Sky threatening with cat & knights, switch to city walls
106 120 City walls Sky attack
109 180 Archers
111 220 Wheel
115 300 Bribe barb crusader
119 380 Engineering
124 480 Copes
125 500 Sanitation
129 580 Banking
134 680 TheoryofGrav
140 800 Econ
146 920 Chem Shakes Sell colossieum
147 940 Sell temple
148 960 Sewer
149 980 Start WLTCD (12)
150 1000 Phalanx
152 1040 Invention Phalanx
157 1140 End WLTCD(19)
158 1160 Democracy Bank Rev olution
159 1180 Phalanx Dem
160 1200 Phalanx
161 1220 Phalanx Meet Jedis, get Iron, Seafaring for Repub and Bank, alliance
163 1260 Gunpowder Phalanxes were a waste of time
164 1280 End war with Sky People
167 1340 Metallurgy Jedis expel Diplomat from within my own territory!
171 1420 Navigation
175 1500 Explosives
179 1540 Physics
180 1550 INC finally! Cloud demand 250g, declare war, Jedis assist
182 1570 Cease fire with Sky but no peace, Pirates, San for Feudalism, trade maps
183 1580 University
184 1590 Electricity Damn Sky cat on gold sq.
187 1620 Refrig Sky declare war
188 1630 Cease fire with Sky but no peace
190 1650 Steam
191 1660 Stock Ex Sand people damaging Jedis
193 1680 RR Engineers Sky threatening again
195 1700 Supermarket
196 1710 Industrialization
199 1740 The Corp
201 1752 Smugglers declare war, I take Warwick & Leadership
203 1756 Steel
204 1758 Factory Sky declare war - prepare to die!
205 1760 Musketeers Smugglers start Darwin
206 1762 Musketeers Sky start Darwin
207 1764 Refining
208 1766 Cannon WLTPD(18)
209 1768 Diplomat Steal Feudalism from Sky
210 1770 Diplomat
211 1772 Conscription Diplomat Peace treaty with Sky people
212 1774 Start Darwin
215 1780 Electronics Sky keep appropriating gold mtn
216 1782 Jedis destroyed by Sky
217 1784 End WLTPD(25)
220 1790 Combustion, Auto Darwin Sky cannoning away at barb pikemen on mountain
221 1792 Sky declare war again, I lose engineer
223 1796 Tactics
225 1800 Auto
226 1802 Hydro
227 1804 MobileWar
228 1806 SuperHighways
230 1810 Machine Tools Armor! Pollution getting out of hand
232 1814 Armor
233 1816 Minituarization Engineers Take Hladir, 28g; GD senate signs peace treaty. WTF am I going to do with these armor?!?!?!?
234 1818 Freight Rebels destroyed by Sky
236 1822 MassProd Freight Sky destroy Sandy
237 1824 Freight
238 1826 Freight
239 1828 Computers Freight Sky complete MC in 3 turns!
240 1830 Freight
241 1832 Low on food
242 1834 Robotics ResearchLab
244 1838 Flight MassTransit Lose engineers
245 1840 Freight
246 1842 Radio Freight
247 1844 Freight
248 1846 AdvFlt Freight
249 1848 Freight
250 1850 Rocketry Freight
251 1851 Engineers Meet Robots, they declare war
252 1852 SpaceFlt
254 1854 Plastics Pollution back under control
256 1856 Atomic Theory Manu plant
258 1858 Nuclear Fission Sell Aqueduct
259 1859 Sell Sewer
260 1860 Nuclear Power Should've sold sooner but I thought I could increase city size
263 1863 Laser
265 1865 Apollo
266 1866 Superconductor Engineers
267 1867 Component Prod at 74
268 1868 Component
269 1869 Component Pollution getting bad, prod @ 76
270 1870 Component 6 polluted sqs
271 1871 Component
272 1872 Fusion Component
276 1876 Prod at 79
277 1877 Module
278 1878 Recycling litle late for that!
279 1879 Module Prod at 81 finally!
280 1880 Structural
281 1881 Structural
282 1882 Structural
283 1883 Structural
284 1884 Stealth Structural
285 1885 Structural
286 1886 Structural
287 1887 Structural
288 1888 Structural
289 1889 Structural
290 1890 Environmentalism Structural
291 1891 Structural
292 1892 Structural
293 1893 Structural
294 1894 Structural
295 1895 Module Launch! ETA 1910
296 1896 Combined Arms Barracks
297 1897 Oil caravan Oil caravan to Nara, 160g, weak! It was demanded!
298 1898 Howitzer
299 1899 Howitzer
301 1901 Communism Airport
302 1902 Stealth Ftr Bribe robot cruiser for 256g, why so cheap?!?
304 1904 Recycling Center Sky start SETI, think I'll build it instead!
305 1905 Sell research lab
307 1907 SETI Sky declare war
308 1908 Espionage Howitzer
309 1909 Armor
310 1910 AC! Power Strong, rep Spotless, Sky Uncooperative, Droids and Smugglers Enraged

I only delivered 4 caravans, my lowest total ever. Also, I didn't capture a single barb leader and got almost no money from demands/gifts.

v2.42 Deity

Monarchy 925bc
Republic 325bc
Democracy 1260ad

Colossus 1750bc
Observatory 140ad
Marco Polo 460ad
Theatre 880ad
Newtons 1500ad
Darwins 1720ad
Apollo 1886ad

Trade 750bc
Cons 875bc
Sani 940ad
Refrig 1720
Auto 1798
Comp 1846
Space Flt 1876

Size 12 75bc
Size 24 1826ad
Max size 27 in 1869ad

3900bc founded Coruscant
started colossus
started ceremonial burial
3400bc horseback riding from ancient scrolls
3000bc ceremonial burial invented
starts alphabet
2550bc added settler to Coruscant
2400bc invented alphabet
starts code of laws
1900bc formed alliance with rebels!??!
exchanged pottery for writing
1750bc Colossus!!!
1500bc Code of Laws!!!
starts monarchy
gift of map making from alliance
1300bc rushed library
1250bc added settler to Coruscant (size 4)
975bc invented monarchy
Revolution!!!
925bc King Daft Oldman!!!!
875bc exchanged monarchy for Construction with rebels
850bc gave smugglers 100 for peace treaty!
built marketplace
825bc WLTKD started
750bc invented TRADE!!!!!
exchanged construction for Mystisism with smugglers
wheel from rebel alliance
600bc Exchanged Wheel for Seafaring with smugglers
exchanged trade for polytheisism, and 300 gift from rebels
550bc 250 gift from rebels
exchanged seafaring for literacy
425bc diplomat!
375bc invented republic - revolution!!!!
WLTKD ends
325bc REPUBLIC!!!
exchanged literacy for maths with smugglers
300bc WLTCD started size 5
Caravan
250bc rushed aquaduct
200bc rushed temple
WLTCD ends size9
150bc WLTCD started size9
gift of 200 from rebels
100bc diplomat
started marco polo
75bc SIZE 12!!!
50bc WLTCD ends
1st Trade (silver) unwanted
25bc invented astronomy
changed to observatory!
120ad rushed observatory
gave sand people construction for peace!
140ad built observatory!!!!
200ad catapult
starts marco polo
220ad exchange republic for war code, and give banking to rebels
260ad bribed barbarian archer
320ad philosophy (not the 1st)
440ad fortification at pass
rushed marco polos
460ad gave republic and war code to pirates
built marco polo
exchanged construction for feudalism with coud people
gave seafaring and banking to robots for peace
gave iron working, and got gift of 75 from rebels!
480ad 75 gift from rebels
540ad monothesiesm from rebels ally
560ad starts great wall (to get theatre!)
caravan
580ad 2nd Trade - 64 revenue (unwanted)
600ad Invented Medecine
changed to theatre!
disbanded catapult
700ad exchanged astronomy for engineering with droids
760ad Bridge Building!!
exchanged bridge building for navigation with rebels and 50 gift!
860ad gift of 100 from rebels
rushed theatre
880ad theatre built
940ad Sanitation!!
960ad Caravan
980ad 3rd Trade - 32 revenue
1000ad rushed sewer system
1020ad sewer system built
1040ad WLTCD started size 12
1060ad gave navigation to jedi
exchanged medicine for uni plus 100 gift from rebels
sold aquaduct and bribed rebel Caravel - No trouble!!!
1080ad Invention invented?!?
1140ad built aquaduct again?!?! doh!
started on wonder
1160ad declared war on sand people for 500!!!
geography shared with rebels!!
1200ad Democracy - revolution!!
1260ad DEMOCRACY!!!!!
1280ad WTLPD size 16
1320ad invention for physics from rebels!!
1400ad bribed jedi tireme!!
1420ad Gravity?!?!
1500ad newtons college
50 gift from rebels
1530ad WLTPD cancelled size 19
rushed uni
1540ad university
1550ad steam engine invented
exchange steam for chemistry with rebels
1560ad caravan
1570ad railroad!!
1600ad industrialisation
bank
1610ad trade (spice) 144 revenue!
1630ad gunpowder
1670ad metallurgy
1680ad 50 gift from rebels
1710ad electricity!!!
rushed darwin!!
1720ad darwin!! refridgeration! explosives!
1740ad engineer
1754ad caravan, economics
1756ad rushed supermarket
1758ad supermarket
1762ad corporation
payed 50 tribute to jedi + railroad, shared maps!!
1764ad trade (oil) 140 revenue
1768ad electronics
1774ad engineers
1776ad refining
1780ad gave gunpowder to cloudies, and exchanged navigation for chivalry
1782ad allies invent communism - no more marco polo
1784ad combustion
1792ad steel
1798ad automobile
1802ad frieght - trade 218 revenue! WLTPD size 18
1804ad rushed superhighways
1808ad mass production
1810ad jedis wage war on me!! destroy militia
bribe jedi chariot
1812ad freight
1814ad leadership
1818ad trade coal - 284 revenue
rushed mass trans
1820ad mass transit and conscription
1826ad WLTPD ends size 24, tactics!!!
1834ad caravan, machine tools!
1840ad mianturization
1844ad sneak attack by cloudies destroys caravel!?!
trade coal - revenue 870
1846ad computers!!!
1848ad rushed research centre
1850ad allied to pirates for 50 and railroad (twice)
1851ad atomic theory!
1853ad recycling!
rushed recycling centre
1854ad recycle centre!
disbanded engineers
1855ad Nuclear power!
1856ad rushed factory
1857ad nuclear fission!
factory
ceasefire with cloudies for metallurgy!
1859ad caravan
1860ad laser!!!!
1863ad flight - oh no!!
trade coal - 463 revenue
1865ad WLTPD starts 24
1866ad radio!
1869ad WLTPD ends size 27!
1870ad advanced flight!
1873ad rocketry!
1876ad space flight
1879ad alliance steel space flight
1880ad environmentalism
1884ad plastics
1886ad apollo
1884ad superconductor
1923ad 3 modules
15 structurals
6 components
launch - 1938 landing
1938ad [b]AC landing!!!!!!
Daft Oldman the Cruel! 286 points, 38%

Just a couple of comments upon your log - hopefully helpful ones.

Towards the end it appears that you did not have enough caravans on hand - you should be aiming for somewhere around 30 caravans in stock for when space flight comes - you can now rush Apollo and each SS part in one turn for no gold cost (assuming 80 production) - if you have fewer caravans you need more gold to compensate, but the cost effective solution is to invest early in caravans rather than save the money for later use.

It also appears as if you only had techs every two turns for a short while - on this map (for the first time ever in my OCC experience) I managed 1 tech per turn for a short period - you should certainly have been at tech per two turns for longer - don't be afraid of running a deficit economy in order to have that science cranked up to 90 or 100% - as a rule of thumb (definitely NOT carved in stone) set you science rate at the lowest that maintains the highest science rate - (that was gibberish - what I mean is if you can get an advance in 3 turns on 100% science you will often find that it is still 3 turns at 80% - so use 80%!) A certain amount of fine tuning is possible by the use of Einsteins and Taxmen and I'm fairly certain that the perfectionists such as Tom, Paul and vik are carefully counting beakers (you can determine the actual cost by taking off all Eins and moving the science rate to 0% the number of turns now shown is the actual beaker cost for the advance - you note this down reset your tax rate and Eins and count off the beakers as they are contributed each turn - I may once have been a mathematician, but I'm certainly not an accountant and that smacks of too much hard work to me - but each to their own!

Does this help - it began to feel rather too much like a diatribe.

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I'm not quite sure how you got techs every turn?!?! did you manage to get that rate for very long? Am i right in thinking that the amount of beakers required is dependant on lots of stuff, including how far ahead you are? because i was along way out in front!! the alliance were the closest and were only on Automobile until they stole space flight!!! should i give them more and let them research "useful" stuff for me and then trade, or beg for it, does that kind of thing work? but i'm just hopeing it's an excuse!!!

But it was a good game all the same!! i enjoyed it!!! I'm still getting to grips with the whole OCC strategy thing! my usual tactic is to spread like rabbits, occupy every bit of vacant land!! grow fast, and build everything! i usually get such a tech advantage i can be lazy and not pay too much attention to any one city!!

So endeth the Second Lesson.

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I shall remember about the mass transit and recycling, environmentalism was to get solar plant - same reasons!!! It's just a case of cutting as many corners as you can, but i'm slowly learning which ones!!!!

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When you say you don't think the Observatory will be available in time - does that mean that you have set your city to building a Wonder from scratch? Once you have trade you NEVER set off to build a Wonder - you can be seriously inconvenienced by all sorts of random variables - barbarian landings, surprise builds by the AI, unexpected techs just landing at your feet - always build and stock pile caravans - any rushing you do costs 2.5g per shield in a caravan and 4g per shield in a Wonder - but the caravan to Wonder transformation is 1:1 so you can get your 6 caravans = Copernicus' Observatory faster than you can build it any other way!

Good civin'

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Adam - in the last few games I have built the two Warriors for martial law, the two Engineers for (eventual) pollution control, a selection of triremes and other naval vessels in order to expedite the loads and loads of caravans - no dips at all in fact no other military units until after launch. However, your point is well taken,if you are unlucky with hut tipping you do need some exploration and ofttimes dips are available before horsemen (which would be my choice) as you say there is no support (a point I had not previously considered) so perhaps the decision can be tipped dip-ward, but I always try to get at least one non unit prior to founding - this time (OCC#8) one of my settlers found an archer - this delayed that settler getting back to the city site, but I finished up with 2 archers, 2 horse & a chariot - so although I lost a horse and a chariot to barbs my city is now (First Millenium AD) held by the archers and a horse and the only supported units are the engineers.

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I'm a Mech Eng student myself, on work placement this year!!! finals next year - fun, fun, fun!!! and i would get back into civ only months before i start my final year - i might as well quit now!?!?!?

And Adam, let me guess you're into economics?? right?!?! ha ha, just joking!!!

If I had realised that you were an Engineer I ... would ... have ... spoken ... more ... slowly ...

Good civin'

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This is typical for an OCC game. The AI rarely contributes more than a handful of techs to the overall effort. So don't trade techs with them - just give them everything. That way you won't be ahead on techs, and any advance that the computer makes will be a new one for you too (so no need for Marco Polo/ embassies to see what the AI is researching. You don't care, because it will always be something you don't have yet).

The key point with this is that the # of beakers that you need for the next advance is partially related to how far ahead you are in techs. So if you want to advance more quickly, the best thing to do is give away all your science. You'll find it a lot easier to get the magic 2 turns per science if you do this.

That was hard work, keeping friend & foe alike from our city tiles!
The key to the early landing was probably that we took care not to ally with any party present on our continent.
And adding one none-settler to the city gave a fast start!

Of course we just HAD to take out those Barb Pikemen , where even Cavalry of the AI tribes could not . The Sand-people were waaaaaaaayyyyyy back in development.

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AC: 1777

Monarchy: -2650
Republic: -1250
Democracy: 540

Colossus: -2050
Shakespeare: -250
Copernicus: 420
Newton: 600
Leonardo: 780
Darwin: 1080
Apollo: 1570

Trade routes: -1800,-1600,-1350

Size 12: -125
Size 21: 420

Trade: -1850
Construction: -1025
Sanitation: 240
Refrigeration: 880

Automobile: 1100
Computers: 1380
Space Flight: 1560
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-3900 PERSEPOLIS founded by Fiona (north)
N-Settler joins city -> S2
-3800 N-Archers(h)
Barbs hold pass
-3350 Sky-People, Bronze Working<->Alphabet(S),
Pottery<->Code of Laws(S), Currency<->Map Making(S),
Ally(S), Maps(S), no Gift
-3250 Rebels, Bronze Working<->Ceremonial Burial(R),
Pottery<->Writing(R), Masonry->R, Peace(R),
no Ally, no Maps, no Gift
-3100 Alliance(S) dissolved over War(S/R)
(the Rebels had Archers next to my Settlers)
-3050 S3
-2650 Monarchy, MONARCHY
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Part of the Log was lost due to computer crash
From notes/memory/calculations:
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-2200 S4
-2050 COLOSSUS
-1850 Trade
? Satsuma (overlapping) and Armagh (not!) on our continent
? Barbs take Osaka, later retaken
-1800 Route #1 (Satsuma,34)
? Literacy
? War(S)
-1600 Route #2 (Satsume,34)
-1450 S5
-1350 Route #3 (Satsuma,36)
? Rebels first to Philosophy
? The Republic
-1250 REPUBLIC
? Peace(S), Literacy<->Mathematics(S)
? Literacy, The Republic -> R
-1025 Construction
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-925 Pirates, Construction->P, The republic->P, Maps(P),
Pottery<->Iron Working(P)
-900 Mysticism, Iron Working->S, The Republic->S, Mysticism->S,
Trade<->Horseback Riding(S)
-875 We Love
-850 S6
-825 S7, Jedis land, Construction->J, Peace(J), The Republic->J,
Maps(J)
-800 We Love ends
Iron Working->J, Ally(J), Writing->J, no gift
-775 Marketplace
-750 Astronomy
-700 Rebels settle Caernarfon, overlapping
-675 Food
-650 Mysticism->P
Iron Working<->Philosophy(R), Astronomy<->Banking(R)
Iron Working->S Banking->S, Astronomy->S
Philosophy->J, Pottery->J, Mathematics->J,
Horseback Riding->J, Banking->J, still no gift
Smugglers found Hastings, overlapping
-625 (MARCO POLO'S EMBASSY-R)
-575 Hides, Astronomy->J, 75<-J
Philosophy->P
-525 Hides, Bridge Building
-425 Hides, War(P) <- Ally(J), Bridge Building->J, Literacy->J,
Mysticism->J, 75<-J
Masonry->J for refusing War(R)
-375 Hides, Bridge Building->P, Cease Fire(P)
-300 (HANGING GARDENS-Droids)
-275 Medicine
-250 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE, S8
-225 We Love
-200 Aquaduct, S9
-175 S10, bridge Building->R
-150 S11
-125 Bank, S12
-100 We Love ends , B Leader (150)
-75 Diplomat
-50 Br N-Legion (82)
-25 Wine, War(P), Medicine<->Warrior Code(J),
Alliance(J) dissolved <- we refused War(R)
1 Br Rebel->N Trireme (350) (finally!)
(GREAT WALL - Droids)
20 Gold
40 War(S), St The Wheel(S)
60 Diplomat
(GREAT LIBRARY - Pirates)
80 University, Wine to Satsuma (d,204)
100 University
120 Droids, Literacy->D, Peace(D)
Refused 50<-J for War(R)
160 Engineering, Gold to Tlatelolco (d,486)
(SUN TZU'S WAR ACADEMY - Sky-People)
180 Gold, University<->Feudalism(R), Engineering<->Seafaring(R)
200 Refused 150<-D for War(R)
240 Sanitation, We Love
260 S13
280 S14, 50(h) (Diplomat on north pole)
300 Food, S15
320 S16
340 Food, S17
360 S18
380 Food, Economics, S19
400 S20
420 S21, COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY
440 Theory of Gravity, We Love ends
Sanitation->D
Sanitation, The Wheel, University->J
Economics->R
460 Stock Exchange
500 Coal, Invention, Gold to Tlatelolco (d,572)
520 Democracy, Revolution, S Archers
540 DEMOCRACY, 50(h)
580 Chemistry
600 ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE
620 Gunpowder
640 Gold, sold Temple
(KING RICHARD'S CRUSADE - Pirates)
660 Explosives
700 Metallurgy, Coal to Cathmarten (172), Cease Fire(P)
740 Navigation, Gold to Tlatelolco (d,642)
Droids have taken Caernarfon!
760 Physics
780 LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP, We Love
800 Magnetism, S22, S Settlers/Catapult
820 Gold
840 Electricity
860 Food
880 Refrigeration, Gold to Tlatelolco (d,642)
900 Supermarket, Steam Engine
940 Engineers, Railroad, S21
960 Hills into Plains
980 Engineers, Industrialization, S20
1000 * Gave all my tech to the Jedi's, the only one with just 3 cities , Maps(J) *
1020 Food, The Corporation, Railroad->P
1040 * Gave lots of techs to the Pirates, Maps(P), Peace(P) *
1060 Refining, Refining->J
1080 DARWIN'S VOYAGE -> Steel, Combustion
* Beaker requirement goes from 1200 to 1800 *
* Lots of techs to Droids -> 1400 * grrrr we make 1398
2 techs->P
Sky-People take Hastings!
1100 Automobile * now 1326 *
1120 Superhighways, We Love
1140 Electronics, S21
Peace(S), 2 techs->S
5 techs->R
1160 Factory, S22
1180 Conscription, S23, Conscription<->Chivalry(S)
1200 S24
1220 Leadership, S25
1240 S26
1260 Hydroplant, S27
1280 Gold, S28
1300 Wine, Machine Tools, We Love ends
Grassland/r into Hills/r, Gold to Cardiff (d,990)
1320 Oil, Mass Production
(STATUE OF LIBERTY - Droids)
1340 Mass Transit
1360 Food, Miniaturization, Oil and Wine to Tlatelolco (2x444)
1380 Food, Computers
1400 Research Lab, Mobile Warfare, War(D) over ->400
1420 Robotics
(EIFFEL TOWER - Sky-People)
%$#()@ Beaker req up again!
Costs a turn (everybody hostile)
1440 Manufacturing Plant, D Cannon
1460 Oil, Flight, Br D->N Destroyer (294)
1480 Food, War(R) over ->650, D Transport, R Knights
1500 Radio, Grassland/r into Hills/r, hunger=4
R Cannon, D Cannon, D Engineers
1520 Advanced Flight, Hill/r mined, hunger=7
1530 D Destroyer, R Caravel, * Beaker req down *
1540 Rocketry
(WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE - Rebels)
1550 (MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION - Sky-People)
1560 Space Flight, R Cannon
1570 APOLLO PROGRAM
1580 SSS, Plastics
1590 SSS
1600 SSS, Atomic Theory
1610 SSS, Cease Fire(R) (they are at war with the Sky-People)
1620 SSS, Nuclear Fission, Hills into Plains, D Dragoons
1630 SSS, D Engineers
1640 SSS, Nuclear Power, hunger=4, D Destroyer
1650 SSS, Forest/r into Plains/r, D Cannon
1660 SSS, The Laser
1670 SSS, hunger=2, D Destroyer
(MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL - Rebels)
1680 SSS, Superconductor
1690 SSS
1700 SSS, Fusion Power, D Destroyer
1710 SSS, Plains into Grassland(s) -> hunger=1
(UNITED NATIONS - Sky People)
1720 SSS, D Cavalry
1730 SSM, D destroy Destroyer
1740 SSM, D Engineers
1750 SSM
1752 SSC, Sky People take Armagh
1754 SSC, Plains into Grassland -> no hunger
1756 SSC
1758 SSC
1760 SSC
1762 SSC, LAUNCH the "FIONA"
+
1763 Airport, Stealth
1764 SAM Missile Battery, Plains/r into Grassland(s)/r
1765 City Walls, Recycling
1766 Barracks, S Sneak kill N-Transport, S Cavalry
1767 Armor, S Alpine Troops, S Riflemen, S Cavalry
1768 Howitzer, Environmentalism, sold Hydro Plant,
Plains into Grassland(s), S Marines, St Polytheism(S)
S Cannon, S Cavalry
1769 Solar Plant, S Marines, S Cannon, S Cavalry
1770 Alpine Troops, Genetic Engineering
S Engineers, S Riflemen, S Alpine Troops
1771 Alpine Troops, S Riflemen * oops! Almost took Hastings *
S Marines
1772 Gold, Combined Arms, Gold to Armagh (d,243), di N-Musketeers
D Cavalry, * S Cavalry runs dead against Barb Pikemen *
1773 Stealth Fighter, We Love Plains into Grassland
2 S Cruisers
1774 S29, Stealth Fighter kills 2 Barb Pikemen
2 S Alpine Troops, D Cavalry/Engineers
1775 Communism, S30, di 2 Engineers, S Marines, Peace(D)
1776 ORACLE, S31, Stealth Fighter kills remaining 2 Barb Pikemen
+
1777 The "FIONA" lands on ALPHA CENTAURI

Score: 335 (43%)