20% Tanks

10% Riflemen

30% Marines

5 % Submarines

3% Settlers to build forts

That attack works best for me.

8 howitzers, 1 transport.

2 engineers, 1 mech inf, 5 howitzers, 1 transport.

at least 5 bombers, transport with 8 armor.

or, the rarely seen, seldom used Grand Navy of Death and Destruction. transport with 8 armor, at least 6 battleships, 3 aegis. If the computer is BS big and powerful, 6 aegis.

All these vets of course, and against Democracies, fundies, rich commies.

Against any retarded primitive civs in the modern era...7 spies poisoning wells, 1 bribes, 1 transport.

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They call me Mr. Fierce

Build a large fleet of Battleships, cruisers or AEGIS, and fast destroyers to protect the battleship from subs and there will be hardly anything that can stop you. If then you add one or two carriers full of bombers and fighters...

Can't subs be kind of useful? Obviously they can't be used for a shore bombardment, but i think they can be used in some instances.

I look at it this way. If you get Magellan's Expedition, and a vet sub, now you've got a 15-4-5 beast waiting to take someone out. Leave it in a corner and wait for the AI transports to come near. And wouldn't that theoretically be strong enough to beat a non-vet Battleship? I am going to experiment using these in my current game, seeing as i am about to finish M.E.

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SandMonkey

Also I like to hunt down battleships with them because I do not want to take the risk of loosing one myself. 2 or 3 subs to hunt one battleship usualy works very good. And they never see them coming, too.
Furthermore, subs can be replaced far easier than a battleship and additionally you can ship around your misiles and nukes with them.

So, their "main tasks" are:
1) Disrupting the enemy's ability to transport troops savely.
2) Hunt down battleships which could endanger your coastal operations.
3) Take your missiles and nukes where they are needed without being discovered.

You can still use a sub's strength and relatively cheap cost to your advantage though.

Another way to use them might be to build some destroyers to almost bait the AI into attacking you, and with sub's near by you could just take them out. quite a stretch, i know, and a large waste of units. But i think a sub is a lot cheaper than building a battleship or even a cruiser. Park it in the middle of a sealane and watch the kills pile up.

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SandMonkey

I think the ai can't see your sub, but CAN see the nukes or cruise missiles inside!
which sucks by the way.
If you notice at the end of moving a sub with sleeping missiles, the missles overlap the sub when it's move points are up.

Now, when 2 or 3 of those bastards hit the contested ocean ... WATCH OUT.

I once played a game like this against the french-english aliance, their combined fleet outnumbered me something like 15 to 1.
Then, one turn, my 3 SSNs (plus 2 landbased nukes) took out (best guess) ~8 Battleships, ~8 AEGIS, ~14 cruisers, ~?? destroyers (tons of em), 2 or 3 transports (only half full) and 2 carriers (almost empty)

Like I said before, I have to agree that Magellan's is a definite must for using subs. The can't get away on the same turn if you don't have it.

Hendrik -

In the few games which i have played on the world map i have found using carriers rather helpful. If you are trying to invade S. America or Africa from an opposite continent, they make it much easier to safely move a few transports across the ocean. The air cover you get from the planes makes it a lot easier to take out opposing naval presence. But of course, using a million destroyers can work just as well.

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SandMonkey

Here's my current units.gif (I've modified the rules.txt to use these units). The AI uses most of them pretty good. I'm still playing around with some numbers and science to get the units. but...
http://www.i2k.com/~density/units.jpg

Spy Plane, nil, 1, 36.,2, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 22,0, 6, U3, 000000000000011
Super Carrier,nil, 2, 8.,0, 2a,18d, 2h,1f, 42,0, 2, Las, 000000010000001
Adv MI Unit, nil, 0, 4.,0, 7a,8d, 3h,1f, 6,0, 1, Sup, 000000000000000
SEAL Unit, nil, 0, 2.,0, 16a,2d, 5h,1f, 24,0, 0, X2, 000001000000111
Sea Wolf, nil, 2, 6.,0, 18a,9d, 4h,2f, 16,0, 5, X1, 110000000001001
Mobile SAM, nil, 0, 2.,0, 1a,5d, 2h,2f, 9,0, 1, X2, 010000000000000
Jet fighter, nil, 1, 12.,1, 7a,3d, 2h,2f, 6,0, 3, U2, 000000000010001
Adv Armor, nil, 0, 4.,0, 12a,6d, 4h,2f, 12,0, 0, X1, 000000000000001
Rocket Lch, nil, 0, 1.,0, 15a,1d, 3h,1f, 14,0, 0, Sup, 000000001000000
Tomahack, nil, 1, 18.,1, 24a,0d, 2h,4f, 8,0, 0, U3, 001000000000000
Diplomat, nil, 0, 1.,0, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 3,0, 6, Esp, 000000000000011

; 000000000000001 = Two space visibility
; 000000000000010 = Ignore zones of control
; 000000000000100 = Can make amphibious assaults
; 000000000001000 = Submarine advantages/disadvantages
; 000000000010000 = Can attack air units (fighter)
; 000000000100000 = Ship must stay near land (trireme)
; 000000001000000 = Negates city walls (howitzer)
; 000000010000000 = Can carry air units (carrier)
; 000000100000000 = Can make paradrops
; 000001000000000 = Alpine (treats all squares as road)
; 000010000000000 = x2 on defense versus horse (pikemen)
; 000100000000000 = Free support for fundamentalism (fanatics)
; 001000000000000 = Destroyed after attacking (missiles)
; 010000000000000 = x2 on defense versus air (AEGIS)
; 100000000000000 = Unit can spot submarines
;