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Topic: The OLD List of Thread Masters and Their Topics
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yin26
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posted May 19, 1999 18:43
   
In case you don't know, I'm Yin, the organizer of "The List of Ideas for Firaxis." As with any organizer, however, I'm useless without something to organize, and that's why I put out the call for Thread Masters--people who have agreed to share a great deal of their own time on a specific topic related to Civ3's development by gathering gamer feedback and periodically summarizing the discussion (and pointing out problems, concerns, etc.). I, in turn, will take all the sublists the Thread Masters generate and make THE MASTER LIST that will be sent to Firaxis (approximately each month as the list grows.) The first list will be sent at the end of June.Anybody interested in becoming a Thread Master for the lists should look here first. If a topic is already taken, please just work closely with the current Thread Master--you will be given credit for your work, of course. If you have a new topic you'd like to start, please e-mail me first. My thanks again to those who have already become Thread Masters, and I encourage even more people to step up and become Thread Masters if they have a good topic, time, patience and passion to make sure we give Firaxis the best possible chance of making the Civ3 WE want to see. (Per Octopus' good suggestion, I will add e-mail addresses to this list later today. If anything is in error, please tell me.) AI: Mindlace
CHEATS: Ming
COMBAT: Redleg
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras
DIPLOMACY: Jeje
GRAPHICS: evil-conquerer
INTERFACE: Frank Moore/Shining1
MOVEMENT: don Don
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99/DanS
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus
UNITS: JT
WONDERS: EnochF OTHER: JT P.S. How do I make the e-mail addresses "clickable"? Can somebody please tell me how to do that? Thanks.
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tfs99
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 18:50
A good explanation of the UBB "email" code is given here: apolyton.net/forums/ubbcode.html Basically, just surround an e-mail address with the "email" code like this: [emale]tfs99@sirius.com[/emale] Only spell "email" correctly (no dash either)!  SMC3  n ... Ted S. |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 19, 1999 18:56
Thanks Ted! I guess I'd better start learning some of that code after all... |
JT
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 19:00
Yep, it's pretty fun. You can also do things with text, like this:Yin26 Or make it blink: |
JT
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 19:02
Just one more example post: |
tfs99
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 19:06
Oh my! HTML is on too! Golly, gee whizzikers.SMC3 n ... Ted S. |
the Octopus
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 20:20
HTML is very powerful. But, with great power comes great responsibility. It is possible to mangle a thread with improper use of HTML.Keep in mind you should:
- be careful
- be tasteful
- avoid annoying HTML features like, oh I don't know... blink?
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MarkG
Apolyton Co-Administrator
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posted May 19, 1999 20:24
Please do not use html. UBB Code is fine for everything you actually need... ------------------
Markos, Apolyton Civilization Site |
tfs99
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 20:32
Although not an absolute necessity, HTML has certainly made my Launch Pad Topic much tidier. Check it out MarkG and I think you'll agree!SMC3 n ... Ted S. |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 19, 1999 21:07
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
COMBAT: Redleg: [email]redleg@oz-online.net
[/email]
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: [email]jerri@iki.fi
[/email]
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
UNITS: JT [???]
UNITS: Singularity [???]
WONDERS: EnochF: kes5149@is.nyu.edu OTHER: JT [???]
__________ O.K. I hoped that e-mail coding worked! JT, Singularity, Ming and CrayonX: Could you please note your email addresses here? Thanks.
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yin26
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posted May 19, 1999 21:13
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
COMBAT: Redleg: redleg@oz-online.net
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: jerri@iki.fi
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
RELIGION: tatuahpo@pelu.jns.fi
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
UNITS: JT [???]
UNITS: Singularity [???]
WONDERS: EnochF: kes5149@is.nyu.edu OTHER: JT [???]
__________ Still need e-mail addresses from: JT
Singularity
CrayonX
Ming [This message has been edited by yin26 (edited May 20, 1999).] |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 19, 1999 21:15
Victory!By the way, do I have to enter the codes in again each time I cut and paste? |
JT
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 21:18
Yes. |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 19, 1999 21:21
Ted: That's awesome work! ( ).JT:  |
Rong
Civer
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posted May 19, 1999 23:16
Yin, you can edit an old post by clicking on the rightmost icon right above your message.How come the (arguably) most important AI thread hasn't been moved to the new forum yet? I want to be a co-master if there is no objections. |
Druid2
Clash of Civilizations
Military/Coding Org.
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posted May 20, 1999 12:23
Agreeing w/ Rong about the missing AI thread. |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 07:18
I've asked that the AI thread be moved over. I'd better check into it further. |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 09:18
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
COMBAT: Redleg: redleg@oz-online.net
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: jerri@iki.fi
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
RELIGION: tatuahpo@pelu.jns.fi
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
UNITS: JT [???]
UNITS: Singularity [???]
WONDERS: EnochF: kes5149@is.nyu.edu OTHER: JT [???]
__________ Still need e-mail addresses from: JT
Singularity
CrayonX
Ming
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Ming
Off-Topic Forum Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 10:19
Sorry Yin... I have no intention of posting my e-mail addresses in a common area. If you would like, I'll e-mail you something so you have it... but I don't really see a need for it at this point in time. This site provides all the communication we need. |
CyberShy
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 10:29
Ming, isn't the time far behind us that we didn't dare to publish our personal stuff at the internet ? Even my home adress and phonenumber can be found online lately. Or do you have enemies ?I think you should open up a hotmail addy then, and use that for public purposes, but how can you operate online without an e-mail addy ? -------------- I see there's a City Improvements - treath and a "New Ideas" discussion missing.
And then I mean new ideas that don't fit in any of the other discussion, because they're totally new. I volunteer to manage one, or both of these lists. CyberShy |
JT
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 10:30
Yeah, the reason I don't have my E-Mail open on the Forum is so noone will E-Mail me if I don't want them to. The Forum gives more than enough publicity. E-Mail won't really make any difference, 'cause you have to go on the internet to get it anyway, and you can get here just as fast. |
JT
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 10:32
Ummmm.... the new ideas would go in the "Other" list. You can co-master this thread with me, if you want. |
DanS
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 10:38
Cybershy: I respect Ming's reticence. I know how easy it is to "cross-reference" available information to get the information I want, so I understand why Ming wishes to protect that information. Also the spam factor. I have received unwanted e-mail because I kept my e-mail public.I take the Hotmail approach, but really, if someone got really pissed at me for something I said on the forums (real or perceived), they could find me "uncomfortably" easy. |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 10:38
JT and MING:The times that I have found e-mail most helpful in this situation is when somebody wants to suggest something to me privately for whatever reason. Of coure, my e-mail was setup with Hotmail just for "fun" purposes, so I can walk away from it if I want to. At any rate, please feel free to not provide an e-mail; however, can you please send me an e-mail (again?) so at least I can contact you as needed? Yin ------------------
CIV3 DEVELOPMENT LIST COORDINATOR **(un)Officially Making Lists for Firaxis Since SMAC Enhancement 3!** |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 10:43
CyberShy,Can you send me a quick e-mail requesting the City Improvements topic? It's sort of my e-handshake. Also, for the other stuff you mentioned, as JT says, we have an "OTHER" thread, which he has kindly offered to co-host with you. Yin ------------------
CIV3 DEVELOPMENT LIST COORDINATOR **(un)Officially Making Lists for Firaxis Since SMAC Enhancement 3!** |
the Octopus
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 10:46
I want to second everyone's suggestion that getting a Hotmail account is the perfect solution for having an accessible e-mail account, but keeping it separate from your "real" e-mail. This is what I have done.E-mail is important. As has already been suggested, it allows for private communication. It also guarantees that you, in particular, will see a particular message. If I have something I need to say specifically to Ming or JT (I don't ) then I would know they got the message if I sent them e-mail. If I just posted, I would have to wait and hope. It is just easier. The hardest part about getting a hotmail account is coming up with a name and password.
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kmj
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:03
Am I the only one that thinks there should nbe a "governments" thread? Or is that already covered somewhere, and I'm just missing it? |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 11:07
kmj,I think you missed it. Bell has that one-- SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu But if you can think of other important topics not covered yet, that would help a great deal. Maybe you'd like to Thread Master a topic? Yin
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CyberShy
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:13
Not that I want to sound cool,
but:I'm co-leader of ¿ The Riddler's Club ? (http://www.riddlersclub.com / member db= http://members.riddlersclub.com (created by me)) This club has over 500 members, and there are about 100 clans (you know, 7 guys that downloaded some hack-proggies) that are yealous at the success of our club. Because our club hires a server and a domain name etc. we ask our members to donate. To let members donate, they need my home-adress. That's just onlin for public. When a few months ago there was another clan that "Hacked down" computers of people that didn't got any knowledge about computers, I putted all MY info online, everything, and I dared those people to hack me down, instead of people that are easy to hack down. Dang, no-one even dared to try. I've been hacked one time totally down, 4 weeks ago by Back Orofice, but again, that was because I turned of my BO-shield for one month, and that can happen to everyone. To make a long story clear, I've loads of enemies. (well, the club has, nobody has anything personal against me) and all my info is available online, though in the 3 years I'm at the internet I never experienced problems. Of course I'm spammed 4 times a day, but who cares ? I've a cool delete button that works in ,5 seconds. And that spamming is because I'm in several mailing lists and newsgroups. Of course I respect it when you don't want to make your e-mail public. But I just want to make clear that there's nothing to fear. Your name is in the telephone book as well ;-) ====== I disagree that "New Ideas" and "Other" are the same. New ideas is about concepts that's never thought about (like me semi-turn idea, in example) while other is more about all current civ-topics that don't really fit in any of the other treads. But, well, maybe I'm wrong. My mail to Yin is on the way. CyberShy |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 11:18
CyberShy,I see your point better now. Yes, in fact, I have invited Rong to Thread Master a "Radical" thread here (at the request of our friendly neighborhood Freddz), but I still haven't heard from him yet. If you can hang on a day or two until I investigate that further, I'd like to invite you to do that as well if you have LOTS of time.
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zaz
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:22
Yin, Here is something else that I think everyone needs to consider.There are so many ideas floating around, but no body is considering the effects on micro-management that most of these ideas entail. Just an example: Someone suggested that we need Settlers/Engineers in the Civ sense which can improve tiles only inside the city radius, but to improve tiles outside the city we would use a public works system. While I think this is a good idea, I can see it becoming a micro-headache. There are hundreds of examples of this in our threads. One of Sid's (If he actually has anything to do with this game) biggest achievements has been to try to eliminate as much micro-management as possible and keep the game flowing in the true JOMT tradition. Do we need a thread for this or should we leave these decisions up to BR etc. after they see what our ideas are? |
Stefu
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:24
Meaning of these forums is to allow free flow of ideas, so let's leave it to BR to decide what of them are good.
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kmj
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:31
I'd love to threadmaster a topic. Unfortunately, on weekdays the only access I have to the forums is through work, and while my lack of morals happily allow me to browse these forums and post with abandon, I can't make any commitments like that, since it may interfere with actual work. Thanks for the offer, though.Thanks for the info, on the gov thread. I gotta go check that out. |
JT
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:33
Okay, I give. Hotmail adress:J_T_3@hotmail.com |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 11:47
Thanks, JT. zaz, we are in the idea gathering phase. A week or so before July, I'm going to invite the Thread Masters to begin vigorous dicussions on how conflicting or perhaps troublesome issues like the one you raise can be dealt with. I do not plan to merely say, "Time's up! I'm sending the list." Like you say, that's counter-productive. When I did the SMAC list, I set a very firm date and warned people that their last chance to add ideas was by such and such a date--I then switched to clarification mode, a period of 4-5 days in which I tried to resolve problems publically. I almost always reached a majority decision, and the list was much, much better for having done that. ------------------
CIV3 DEVELOPMENT LIST COORDINATOR **(un)Officially Making Lists for Firaxis Since SMAC Enhancement 3!** |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 11:50
kmj,Your boss won't mind non-stop posting to other people's threads, would he? I mean, this is Civ3 we're talking about here. Has the man no soul? ------------------
CIV3 DEVELOPMENT LIST COORDINATOR **(un)Officially Making Lists for Firaxis Since SMAC Enhancement 3!** |
Rong
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:53
Yin,You invited me to TM the "Radical" thread? How come I never saw the invitation? Man, there is just too much information on this forum. I'd love to. Shall I start right away? |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 11:55
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
COMBAT: Redleg: redleg@oz-online.net
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: jerri@iki.fi
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
RELIGION: tatuahpo@pelu.jns.fi
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
UNITS: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com
UNITS: Singularity [???]
WONDERS: EnochF: a-kevsn@microsoft.com OTHER: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com __________ Still need e-mail addresses from: Singularity
CrayonX
Ming
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EnochF
Civer
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posted May 20, 1999 11:57
Actually, my e-mail address has changed. Take a look.(Incidentally, the old NYU address hasn't worked in quite some time, so if for some unfathomable reason somebody was actually sending me e-mail and getting pissed off that I didn't answer, that's why.) I updated it. Thanks. [This message has been edited by yin26 (edited May 20, 1999).] |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 12:03
Rong,Please do. But please make sure you read and can agree to the Thread Masters' Creed. Also, as I'm sure you know, this will take a great deal of your time. Well, of course you knew that...Please start the thread this way just to be consistent: RADICAL IDEAS: Hosted by Rong I hope the title is o.k.--I think the idea there is clear enough. Your first duty, then, should be to summarize all the radical ideas to this point and make that your first post. Something I'd like to see at the very top, though, is just what you mean by a "Radical" idea. Looking at the other threads, a lot of those ideas are radical, too. But I have received more than a few requests that this topic be added, so I trust that people know that this is necessary. I look forward to seeing it. Thanks, Rong--and welcome aboard! ------------------
CIV3 DEVELOPMENT LIST COORDINATOR **(un)Officially Making Lists for Firaxis Since SMAC Enhancement 3!** |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 12:48
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
COMBAT: Redleg: redleg@oz-online.net
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: jerri@iki.fi
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
RADICAL IDEAS: Rong: rong@bigfoot.com
RELIGION: tatuahpo@pelu.jns.fi
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
UNITS: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com
UNITS: Singularity [???]
WONDERS: EnochF: a-kevsn@microsoft.com OTHER: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com __________ Still need e-mail addresses from: Singularity
CrayonX
Ming
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yin26
Moderator
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posted May 20, 1999 18:22
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
CITY IMPROVEMENTS: CyberShy: rplomp@bart.nl
COMBAT: Redleg: redleg@oz-online.net
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: jerri@iki.fi
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
RADICAL IDEAS: Rong: rong@bigfoot.com
RELIGION: tatuahpo@pelu.jns.fi
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
UNITS: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com
WONDERS: EnochF: a-kevsn@microsoft.com OTHER: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com __________ Still need e-mail addresses from: CrayonX
Ming
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yin26
Moderator
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posted May 21, 1999 05:24
Singularity, if you are still with us, I took you off the UNITS thread. If you would like to Thread Master another topic, please let me know.Yin ------------------
CIV3 DEVELOPMENT LIST COORDINATOR **(un)Officially Making Lists for Firaxis Since SMAC Enhancement 3!** |
yin26
Moderator
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posted May 21, 1999 21:59
OVERALL ORGANIZATION: yin26: namk26@hotmail.com AI: Mindlace: mindlace@majordomo.net
CHEATS: Ming: [???]
CITY IMPROVEMENTS: CyberShy: rplomp@bart.nl
COMBAT: Redleg: redleg@oz-online.net
ECONOMICS/TRADE: Pythagoras: mrpythagras@earthlink.net
DIPLOMACY: Jeje: jerri@iki.fi
DIPLOMACY: CrayonX: [???]
GRAPHICS: Evil Conquerer: alphac@flashmail.com
INTERFACE: Shining1: ejg27@student.canterbury.ac.nz
INTERFACE: Frank Moore: frankjmoore@hotmail.com
MOVEMENT: don Don: dewvr@mindspring.com
MULTIPLAYER: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
MULTIPLAYER: DanS: dschmelzer@hotmail.com
RADICAL IDEAS: Rong: rong@bigfoot.com
RELIGION: tatuahpo@pelu.jns.fi
SCENARIO/MAP EDITOR: tfs99: tfs99@sirius.com
SOCIAL ENGINEERING/GOVERNMENT: Bell: greatoz@umit.maine.edu
TECHNOLOGY: Octopus: king_ghidrah@hotmail.com
THE MANUAL/HELP FILES: Travathian: travathian@yahoo.com
UNITS: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com
WONDERS: EnochF: a-kevsn@microsoft.com OTHER: JT: J_T_3@hotmail.com __________ Still need e-mail addresses from: CrayonX
Ming
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