I know it's going to take at least a couple of days before the models appear on the web site and you get to read them.

Let's leave this thread for anything covering the interactions between the 3 models (which are strong) or for just general discussions about social stuff you feel are missing in these models. I'll open threads for each model in a couple of days so we can talk about specific things in each of them.

I'm expecting feedback from this very moment!

Rodrigo: I have read all three of the models and I've had a look at the worksheet you sent me. Congrats for all this splendid work: you've got things neatly organised and the worksheet is going to be a great tool. You have changed all the variables and abbreviations nomenclature though, as well as the general layout of the models, so I felt a little bit lost at the beginning. There is alot of explaining to do, especially concerning all the equations, even for me!

Forgive me if I have spoiled the suprise, but let's not keep them waiting!

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Models for Society

All the things we may generally refer as "social issues" like politics, government, revolutions, culture evolution, religion, etc., appear to be inevitably linked with each other. It isn't easy to draw lines and create individual modeling for all the social effects we'd desire for Clash. This is why the three models proposed here covering society and its behavior should be seen as one, like sub-models of something bigger. Coherency between them has been carefully taken care of. Each one performs a particular task providing many of the elements we want, but some of the most interesting social effects are a result of the interactions between them three.

The three models are the Social Model, the Government Model and the Riots Model. I suggest you to read them in this same order for better understanding. This is what they do in a very general sense:

Social Model: Simulates culture evolution.

Government Model: Simulates politics within the civ's government.

All: If you want the MS-Word documents for these three models, I can e-mail them to you (roquijad@cec.uchile.cl). I can also provide you an Excel spreadsheet with the core of the govt model so you can experiment with it.

Do me a favor. After reading the models, please give your general impression before going into details. Tell us if you think something is really bad about them or if you think something very important is missing.

The govt, social and riots models, individually or as a result of the interactions between them, are including the following features:

Govt policies/laws regulating the civ
Different despotic levels leading to low or high player's control over the civ
Govt shifts, peacefully or violently
"Infinite" govt styles (kind of monarchy, almost monarchy, pure monarchy, etc)
Govt control over economic system: from pure capitalism to pure communism
Govt control over diplomacy: from passive/submissive to world conquest
Govt forms will tend to represent the civ's culture
Centralized or decentralized administration
Slavery
Several religions, "primitive" and "advanced"
Religion spreading
Religious discrimination and prosecution
Ethnic discrimination
Privileges for aristocracy
Culture evolution
Street protests and riots
Forced migrations to reduce chances of uprisings
Player's ability to bribe political adversaries
Player's ability to kill political adversaries
Clash of ideologies
Chances of ruler getting replaced
Chances of ruler getting murdered
Internal intelligence services to control discontent
Nationalistic fervors
Birth of new nations as a result of province independence
Birth of new cultures as a result of multiethnic civs
Instability in regimes (empires can go up and down)
Ideological propaganda
Politically active population according to its position in society
Continuos political activities
Political corruption
Military coups
Revolutions
Civil wars