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paiktis22
Prince
Athens Greece
Oct 2000
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I thought of that while reading some of the posts in the Civ 3 forum. One Apolytoner said that Firaxis should make sure to include an EXTRA HARD SADISTIC level so that not everyone ends up ridiculing the AI as it happens in civ 2. (that's what he said).

Another Apolytoner questioned the number of those who can beat Deity «continuously» saying it's a minority and Firaxis should be focusing on pleasing the majority.

Now, I know that this forum is not the best place to have this poll since there a lot of Civ Deities in here But still. In all honesty I call you to answer this:

what is the level you usually play and
what is the level that you can actually win more times than you lose.

LEVEL I USUALLY PLAY
Chieftain
Warlord
Prince
King
Emperor 1
Deity
I play other things (OCC etc)

LEVEL I CAN WIN
Chieftain
Warlord
Prince
King
Emperor
Deity 1
Other things (OCC etc)

Dissident
King
of the Mojave Desert and a freethinker
Feb 2000
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King

Emporer (although I'm getting close to Diety)

Marquis de Sodaq
Chieftain
Land o' Lakes
Jul 2000
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I almost always play at emperor and lead before quitting. I've toyed around in deity with mild success.

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-Philip of Macedon

Exile
Prince
of the Benighted Realms
Sep 2000
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I usually play in Prince because I want to enjoy myself, not challenge myself. I can certainly win in King, and presume that I can win in Emperor as well. I have played several times on Deity, just to example the setting, but never finished a game on that difficulty level. I created a little fantasy/medieval scenario on the Deity setting just to see what difference creating the scenario on that setting would have on the AI. There seemed to be a difference in aggressiveness, but I haven't yet decided on what to attribute it. In historical terms, during the "life" of a culture, there will be very few opponents who amount to a "Deity" setting. Most historical conflicts equate to, (IMHO) the Prince level of play. Others may disagree.

Salutations,
Exile

War4ever
Prince
Vancouver Canada PST
May 2000
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i play deity.... i mp in deity and i win all ai games in deity..... although admittedly i lost the first couple in deity. I never bothered to learn the lower levels as i always played emperor in civ1

That said the usual tricks of civ 1 worked on emperor and i conquered the world my first game. Wasnt' quite so easy in deity but i learned a couple of tricks and conquering the world only took three tries...... sheer numbers will do that for you

The spaceship was a different learning curve and admittedly took me much longer.......

Now i do any of this in my sleep.... which is why i only multi play

Rufus T. Firefly
Warlord
Freedonia
Sep 2000
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I play on deity, and can win maybe 30-40% of the time
I can win consistantly on emperor and below.
BUT...
I play with two restrictions: I won't go fundy, ever, and I won't switch out of democracy once I've switched in. Without those restrictions, I'd be winning at deity more consistantly.

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Dig trenches, with our men being killed off like flies? There isn't time to dig trenches. We'll have to buy them ready made. Here, run out and get some trenches.
-- Rufus T. Firefly, the original rush-builder

Deathwalker
Warlord
Great Britain
Mar 2000
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I play at Deity sometimes Emperor

But I win really at Emperor,
I only use Deity to get a challenge and try and get better

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I have walked since the dawn of time and were ever I walk, death is sure to follow

Scouse Gits
King
Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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Deity and Deity - but with none of Rufus' restrictions ...

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"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'."
- Paul Craven

drake
King
of Malden, MA, US
Oct 2000
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I only play multi games, so since there's no advantage for a particular civ, it doesn't really matter which level I play at.

The levels I play at are king and up and I seem to do ok.

Marko Polo
Chieftain
Finland, Lohja (60km NW to Helsinki)
Dec 2000
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Ditto with SG[1]
Caesar the Glutton
Chieftain
Washington DC
Nov 2000
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Prince if I want to really kick butt. Usually King.

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Nam si violandum est ius, regnandi gratia violandum est: aliis rebus pietatem colas

Hasdrubal
Warlord
Carthage
May 2000
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Deity, with a spiced up rules.txt

Deity.

Ming
Deity
ACS CivII/OTF Moderator
b.02-15-99
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Deity and Deity
The only times I have ever played at a lower level was in MP games.
reds4ever
Settler
Chester
Mar 2001
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i always win on king but can't make the jump and win on emporor, so i play king left handed for a challenge
DaveV
King
USA - EDT (GMT-5)
b.02-15-99
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Deity, Deity. Playing MP has made me a lot better at dealing with barbs, and I expect to win every time at deity level in SP.
Chris1111
Settler
Wilmington,NC
Mar 2001
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I play at prince when I want to relax and try new things out. Mostly playing at king though.
Eli
Emperor
of Israel. aka Builder
Jul 2000
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Currently I'm trying to win on Emperor. And 40% of the time I manage to win.


On King and lower I win easily, and on Deity I survive, most of the time.

zyxpsilon
Warlord
Laval,Quebec,Canada
Sep 2000
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Most of the time on Deity... but if i really want some "cool fun" all the other levels are challenging (to a certain degree!).

Fiddling with the RULES.TXT is even more "crazy" than keep on beating Deity.

Expecting changes in most scenarios has it's appeal too since you can get your hands at objectives and witness the occasional jewel of a unit that makes you wonder how really tough a game can get.

Emperor is the minimal for "serious" gamers (if there is such a gizmo in this world!)

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