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winston
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Ee ecky thump
Mar 99
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Well, I do. It's the only way I can be sure to move my units the way I intended to. It takes a little away from the illusuion of moving through real terrain, but after a while, you hardly notice it. Anyway, this works for me. I also like to have the game run at the medium zoom in-rate, that is Shift-Z. Occasionally, I'll switch to the medium zoom out-rate, Shift-X - mainly when I have to move ships over relatively long distances.

What are your preferences? Grid on or off, and what kind of zoom?

Ming
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I play with the grid on. I've tried with it off, and it just doesn't feel right. But considering I'm an old board gamer...

As far as the Zoom goes, I play on the default setting, because that's what I'm used to.

Tizzy
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Aug 2000
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I used to, when I first started playing, but I prefer to play without it now.
DaveV
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Grid on, always. I'd be lost without it. I even like the highlighted city radius that so offends some purists, since it helps me in laying out my cities. I nearly always play on the standard zoom (shift-z), since that setting looks the best to me. I zoom out sometimes late in the game when I get tired of the screen recentering constantly.

Edited to change "zoom in" to "zoom out" in the last sentence.
[This message has been edited by DaveV (edited March 20, 2001).]

Jay Bee
The Spanish Civilization II Site
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Grid off, always. I find the grid very aestethically unpleasant. Once you're used to it, the mistakes in unit moving are practically nil. Zoom at default too.
Hasdrubal
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Carthage
May 2000
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Grid off. Except when planning cities or moving triremes.
Zoom: one or two levels below default.(zoomed in) Also, as the game progresses I tend to zoom out.
cpoulos
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NY NY USA
Jan 2001
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quote:

Originally posted by Ming on 03-20-2001 08:23 AM
But considering I'm an old board gamer...


You also, eh? I started back in 76. I play with the grid off. I put it on to figure out city placement, and to see what areas need to be developed, but it goes right back off. I use maximum zoom, as I don't see to well anymore.

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Paul
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Grid on, but not the white city grid. That just looks ugly. Standard zoom, because that's what I'm used to. When I play a comparison game that was started by someone else the first thing I do is change all the options to my own preferences.
Carolus Rex
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Grid always off, because the white lines mess the map up.

Paul, how do you turn them off in MP? I downloaded a file for Civ 2 that took care of it, but haven't found one for MP.

Zoom is one level in (I think) for sharper looking graphics.

Carolus

Marquis de Sodaq
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Land o' Lakes
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The grid is always off, just for aesthetic reasons. I don't find it at all difficult to lay out cities properly or move units. You get used to it not being there, and it looks better.

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Scouse Gits
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Grid always on, otherwise the salvage companies become too rich on my triremes. I zoom in and out frequently.
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skrobism
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Oct 2000
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I usually play with the grid on - medium zoom.

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CYBERAmazon
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Feb 2000
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Winston, et al.:

I play with the map grid off, except when placing cities. Then it's on to make sure I get the maximum specials possible within the city's radius.

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wittlich
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Feb 2000
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I play with the grid on - mainly because of my cities. I want to make sure they are close enough to be connected but not overlapping each other...and the best way for this is to have the grid turned on.
Concerning the zoom level, I leave it at its default setting since I'm use to it that way
George Garrett
Warlord
Victoria. B.C. Canada
May 99
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I find the grid essential to my play...if one miscalculates a target location, vital units could be lost (tiremes, besieging stacks, etc). I especially like it for "plotting" the course of my longer sea voyages.
It's never occured to me to use other than the default zoom...I must try it.
I was puzzled by the reference to cities...I wasn't aware that (in Civ2 anyway)there was an alternative way that they could be shown? And while we're on the subject of grids, can anyone tell me how/if I can show the co-ordinates on my playing map (Civ2)? I've tried DrFell's suggestion of clicking on the right-hand map, but no joy...yet on my map-editor the co-ordinates are plainly to be seen.
Dissident
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Feb 2000
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I used to always have it on until I got my 19" monitor. With the new monitor the diaginal lines look very jagged and look like sh!t. so I only turn them on to verify my city grid before building a new city.
DaveV
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quote:

Originally posted by George Garrett on 03-20-2001 02:31 PMI've tried DrFell's suggestion of clicking on the right-hand map, but no joy...yet on my map-editor the co-ordinates are plainly to be seen.

Try clicking the right mouse button on the main map. It's also worth noting that you can move the blinking cursor with the arrow keys once you're in this mode. Press the "V" key to go back to normal mode.

Paul
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Mar 99
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quote:

Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 03-20-2001 11:22 AM
Grid always off, because the white lines mess the map up.

Paul, how do you turn them off in MP? I downloaded a file for Civ 2 that took care of it, but haven't found one for MP.

I copied the icons.gif from 2.42 into my MP directory. That's the iconsb.gif from the 2.42 patch, which you should rename to icons.gif to get rid of the white grid. It also works in the MP version. I don't play the MP version often, but I have never noticed any problems with this.

Scouse Gits
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Nov 1999
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Grid off - you soon get used to it and the aesthetics arem greater - but SG(2) prefers it on - see above -- so when we play together it goes on...

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War4ever
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May 2000
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i prefer the grid on too.... normal settings for the zoom..... i guess whatever the default is. I played with it off for awhile and almost went stark raving mad. I noticed my military advisor complained of heavy losses and the city coordinator crying foul with poorly laid cities
George Garrett
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May 99
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Thanks, DaveV -will try this
John-SJ
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Aug 1999
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Map grid on, always! I prefer the default zoom level becuase of the unit clarity but sometimes late in the game on a large map I will zoom out a couple of levels to make moving units easier.

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HsFB
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Phobos, Martian System
Jan 2000
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I use it off, with the standard zoom level (at a 1024*768 screen resolution) and only use the grid to fit cities as perfectly as possible
The Mad Monk
King
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Mar 2000
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Always on in the early game, when knowing the exact content of each and every square is so critical; off otherwise for aesthetic reasons, unless doing some serious city planning...

Standard zoom is typical, but changed as needed.

Craftsman
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Feb 2001
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Grid off (reason: aesthetics), unless I need to take a look in a new city location or to control some trirremes.
Standard zoom (Shift+z).
paiktis22
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Athens Greece
Oct 2000
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Grid always on. I made the mistake of not switching it off and learning to play without it and now it's too late. The terrain looks so much better without tho. Oh, well

I play one «zoom» closer than the regular because for some reason the untis feel more «real» to me like that. As the game advances I zoom in and out according to the needs of quick orientatio.

Craftsman
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Feb 2001
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Hello, paiktis22!

Try again! If you like realism, than your games are going to be more realistic without that grid annoying the landscape view...
My very first games were with the grid. But I felt that I was missing something with that grid polluting my view... So I turned it off!
I became a little confused on the beggining, but it is worth the effort!

Thanks for your time!

colossus
Warlord
Hong Kong
Nov 1999
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Always grid on, standard zoom.
Dhalsim
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Feb 2001
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Off, except for city placement or if I'm sending a bomber over a distance.
Zoom 1 or 2 out.

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Fiera
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Mar 2000
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Always off... otherwise is ugly. I don't feel surprised that Jay Bee felt the same... I guess that all scenario creators/players turn off the grid... I even create my maps with the grid off...
Ecthelion
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Mar 2000
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I play with the grid off... I do activate it for checking city overlapping and city locating stuff similar to this occasionally though
drake
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Oct 2000
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No grids, standard zoom. The way civ was meant
Earwicker
Chieftain
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Mar 99
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Like so many others, grid off except for placing new cities. I use the 'v' glowing square for moving triremes and airplanes instead of the grid.
ColdWizard
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Nothing...... anybody seen my crown?
Feb 2000
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grid on and standard zoom

i've played with the grid off and my city placement gets even worse than it usually is

Sirotnikov
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Israel
Feb 2000
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Grid on including the white lines. Helps a lot to figure out when you're being invaded . I also am a perfectionst when building cities and often get very annoyed when the square fitting for me to build a city on it is made of some ****ty terrain or worse - is ocean.
kyrie_asini
Warlord
of a strange new world
Jan 2001
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Grid off (except right before I build a city just to make sure I'm not being stupid in my place ment... never messed with the zoom... seeing as I play on bcr3's computer, I don't want to mess with his settings too much.
Thoddy
Settler
Hannover, Germany
Jan 2001
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Grid on, white lines, standard zoom.
Ilkuul
Warlord
of Thame (UK)
Mar 2000
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Me too, grid on, standard zoom (occasional zooming out for long sea voyages, etc.) -- and especially the white city grid! Maybe I'm a bit slow or something, but that really helps me identify ZOC's, terrain to improve, etc.

HsFB
Prince
Phobos, Martian System
Jan 2000
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and i got the patch which turns the white city grid into thinner dotted lines...

I HATE the solid white lines whivh are the deafult...

paiktis22
Warlord
Athens Greece
Oct 2000
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Emm, could you be so kind as to reveal the location of this aesthetically prevalent patch?!

Thanx

P.S. Who wants to come with me and raid the offices of Firaxis and steal civ 3 (well not steal, just make a copy). I really can't wait much longer

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