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Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 16, 2001 09:07
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Marko_Polo proposes in this thread a variant of the OCC Bloodlust challenge that is suitable for a Succession Game and I have been volunteered to set it up.Rules and Objectives
as the thread above Civ version v2.42 Dramatis Personae
-- Round 1 -- - SG[1] -- git1@scousers.net
- Carolus Rex -- definitely_rex@hotmail.com
- Marko Polo -- marko.raunio@luukku.com
- Hueij -- j.stavenuiter@chello.nl
- Julius Brenzaida -- julius.brenzaida@infomaniak.ch
- East Street Trader -- youdell@aol.com
- skrobism -- theidiots@yahoo.com
-- Round 2 --- Hueij -- j.stavenuiter@chello.nl
- SG[1] -- git1@scousers.net
- Carolus Rex -- definitely_rex@hotmail.com
- Marko Polo -- marko.raunio@luukku.com
- East Street Trader -- youdell@aol.com
- skrobism -- theidiots@yahoo.com
- Julius Brenzaida -- julius.brenzaida@infomaniak.ch
-- Round 3 -- maximum 10 turns ... - SG[1] -- git1@scousers.net
- Carolus Rex -- definitely_rex@hotmail.com
- Marko Polo -- marko.raunio@luukku.com
- Hueij -- j.stavenuiter@chello.nl
- Julius Brenzaida -- julius.brenzaida@infomaniak.ch
- East Street Trader -- youdell@aol.com
- skrobism -- theidiots@yahoo.com
Number of turns per player
Let's aim for a happy medium - as many as you can manage in 72 hours, but not to exceed x where initially x = 20. As the game progresses x will reduce - probably to about 5 in the latter stages.
Save Games
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Scouse Git[1]
"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven
[This message has been edited by the Scouse Gits many times - the most recent being ...]
[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited May 11, 2001).] |
Carolus Rex
King
Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 16, 2001 09:46
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Ok!Max 20 turns/player early in the game sounds fine to me. Do I read your post right if I assume we at some point voluntarily restrict the number of turns to some lower number? BTW, something just struck me! I've had problems downloading files from hotmail for some time now (uploading and sending files is ok, though). Is it too much trouble to send me the file via ICQ? We either have to be on-line at the same time, or, you can send me the "transfer file"-request and have ICQ running until I come on-line and accept it. I can go on-line any time of the day if necessary. If this is too much trouble I can send you my real e-mail, although I suffer from net paranoia and prefer to be anonymous.  Carolus |
Carolus Rex
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 16, 2001 09:50
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Oh, I see you just edited in the saved games. I take it you have played your turns... No need for icq then, is there? I just download the 3050 BC save, play my turns and send it to the next guy, right?  Carolus |
Scouse Gits
King
Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 16, 2001 09:51
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We're off - I had a start that I had been saving for that ever farther away day when I could sit down and play out an OCC game completely - so I have used it - four specials, Whale, Wine and 2 Fish - 3 techs BW, CB & WC  -- found two huts both contained Scrolls - CoL & Monarchy (I think I would have preferred an odd NON unit instead. Revolted in 3250. Will send to Carolus directly ...------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven |
Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 16, 2001 09:52
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Yes Carolus, that saves my sending it by e-mail -- good luck------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven |
Carolus Rex
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 16, 2001 09:55
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Thanks buddy, I'll need it!Monarchy in 3250 BC... Can't hurt, can it?  One save to the next guy and one to you to put up at the site? Carolus |
Marko_Polo
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 16, 2001 10:11
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Thanks SG for setting up this game! My schedule is rather busy right now but I always have the nights..  So as soon as I get the game I try to play my turns during the same evening. That 72h time limit sounds quite good.. let's see if we can make this game a 'lightning OCC bloodlust' one! |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 16, 2001 11:50
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Hey. Sounds interesting. Can I still get in on this?email theidiots@yahoo.com ------------------
Please use this email:
theidiots@yahoo.com or
skrobism@linuxfreemail.com
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 16, 2001 15:43
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OK, skrobism, you're in -- see the first post.------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 16, 2001 17:50
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Thanks SG. I like the 72 hour rule. Lately I've needed some prodding to find time to play. I have been too busy. I think that rule will help keep my priorities straight.
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Please use this email:
theidiots@yahoo.com or
skrobism@linuxfreemail.com
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
Malignantx
Settler
Atlanta
May 2000
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posted March 16, 2001 22:47
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Hey guys can i join in the game? my email is abneyja@yahoo.com thanks! |
Hueij
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Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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posted March 17, 2001 18:36
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Damn, just for one day you don't check Apolyton and people set up a game... Is there still a place for one more? |
Carolus Rex
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 18, 2001 06:23
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Marko, you've got mail! Short log coming up after these messages... Carolus |
Carolus Rex
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 18, 2001 08:18
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Once upon a time there was a small village. The small village had been abandoned by its former king, who's thirst for worldly pleasures was not easy to satisfy for the local taverna. Without the guidance of a benevolent, yet firm, leader the people of the small village now lived in fear of the barbarian hordes, rampaging the country side.Then one morning a stranger, a tall vagabond, appeared. You could tell from the way he walked, that it was a man used to encounter (and overcome) difficulties and danger. The man entered the taverna. "Water from your finest spring", he demanded, "for I have travelled far!" Thus begins the story when a man without name or history started his journey to become a legend during his own life time. His subjects called him Carolus Rex. 3000 BC Discover pottery, currency next choice
2750 BC Chariot (hut)
2600 BC Barb archer destroys the wine mine...
2400 BC Discover currency, writing next choice (trade was not an option)
2200 BC Met the French, gave them pottery, not able to get tribute 
2050 BC Barb horse from hut, threatening the warrior that entered the hut The settler is working on that mine again. Edited: Added a couple of 's! Carolus
[This message has been edited by Carolus Rex (edited March 18, 2001).] |
Marko_Polo
King
Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 18, 2001 09:55
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File received. I'll play my turns today |
Julius Brenzaida
Warlord
Switzerland
Aug 2000
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posted March 18, 2001 10:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 03-18-2001 06:23 AM
Marko, you've got mail!
Short log coming up after these messages...
Carolus
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Good Carolus, now you also must play sucession games AND a chess game. Because, if I understand correctly, you also play MP, it could give me the edge in our David vs Goliath contest. ------------------
Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe |
Carolus Rex
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 18, 2001 13:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 03-18-2001 10:41 AM
Because, if I understand correctly, you also play MP, it could give me the edge in our David vs Goliath contest.
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You're killing me softly (and have been doing so for the last couple of moves) in that chess game, Julius! But I will soon post a reply... Carolus |
Marko_Polo
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Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 18, 2001 14:45
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Well, what should I say.. the situation isn't too bright for us. Now I understand the true sense of Hueij's words in SG's tag.. We have a size 3 Rome with one warrior garrisioned, that means we must keep one worker as elvis to avoid riot. We have three shields (as barbs destroyed the wine mine). Of those one goes to the chariot support, which leaves only two to Colossus building. It will take 57 turns with two shield.. Here is my log: -2050: Traded monarchy for masonry with the French, they demand currecy, we give that and as gift CoL + warrior code. They are cordial but refuse the alliance
-2000: Barb horse escaped and our warrior is safe! The other warrior closest to Rome tries to kill the barb archer who is blocking his way back to Rome. Well, this wasn't poor warrior's lucky day It was very close though
-1850: Wine mined, hut: Trade!!!-->French
-1500: Chariot returned home, elvis got fired immediately!
-1400: Hut: barb archer & legion , we bury our brave warrior under a big oak
-1300: French demands 50g from us, we refuse, war (sigh)
-1200: Writing-->Literacy
-1050: Colossus (finally!)
-1000: Rome will grow to S4 next turn and a warrior will be completed as well to maintain martial law During my millenium I could only build the Colossus. I decided not to rushbuild it; I could have done it four turns before, but thought we can spend the gold (139 or something) better. Wonder shield is 4g when improvement shield is only 2g and we haven't got library yet.. The diplomacy situation is grim too.. we have only met the French who is extremely hostile to us. We really need to find the other AI's soon Save game is sent to EST & SG. Good luck! |
Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 19, 2001 05:36
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Malignantx & Hueij have joined - see first post - I have two new save games that I have put in the first post ...
I believe EST is off skiing in Austria - it would be best if we skipped him this time round - I hAV forwarded the save to skrobism ...------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven
[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited March 19, 2001).] |
Julius Brenzaida
Warlord
Switzerland
Aug 2000
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posted March 19, 2001 08:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 03-18-2001 01:23 PM
You're killing me softly (and have been doing so for the last couple of moves) in that chess game, Julius!
But I will soon post a reply...
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Yeah, since your Queen moved to g3, I think I've got the edge. My last "quiet" move, Rook to c5, should leave you in deep trouble. ------------------
Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe |
Julius Brenzaida
Warlord
Switzerland
Aug 2000
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posted March 19, 2001 08:04
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If you can forgive me, for once (but only once) taking 2 weeks for playing 15 turns in the AI headstart sucession game, I'm also willing to join this one. I'm in many games, but the OCC, the gigamap and the lighnting should finish pretty soon, so I think I can handle this one too.------------------
Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - Goethe |
Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 19, 2001 09:00
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OK Julius, I think we have to let you in just to even things up a bit for Carolus -- see the first post ...------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 20, 2001 14:16
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I got the save. I will try to play to night.------------------
Please use this email:
theidiots@yahoo.com or
skrobism@linuxfreemail.com
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 20, 2001 14:18
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SG,
I like the way you are organizing this thread with all other updates at the top. Good idea.------------------
Please use this email:
theidiots@yahoo.com or
skrobism@linuxfreemail.com
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
Marko Polo
Warlord
Finland, Lohja (60km NW to Helsinki)
Dec 2000
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posted March 21, 2001 05:01
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First, I changed my username 'Marko_Polo' --> 'Marko Polo' by removing the unnecessary underscore from my nic. In the process I seemed to lose my post count as well Then to my proposition: we have now 8 players. I was thinking that could we split to make two teams 4 players each? The second team would start from 3050BC save so that the game start would we coherent for both teams. It's not too late to do that because only 4 players have been involved yet. IMHO we could have these advantages by doing this: (1) with two teams we could compete like we do in the current OCC succession game. That would be fun! (2) we all get to continue the game sooner I have been thinking why so many succession games seem to start with great enthusiasm but then the commitment of the players seem to wither during the course of time. I have one explanation: if there are too many players you'll get detached from the game. I mean, when you get the game next time too much have changed since you left the game to your successor. You'll lose the feel of continuation which is one of the basic element in Civ-games. The very essense that keeps you addicted to the game.. am I right? Well, does my idea get any support? I don't want to impose my opinion here and want to say that I can live with 8 players as well if the majority wants it. Just trying to get more out of these succession games!
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Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 21, 2001 05:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Marko Polo on 03-21-2001 05:01 AM
First, I changed my username 'Marko_Polo' --> 'Marko Polo' by removing the unnecessary underscore from my nic. In the process I seemed to lose my post count as well
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A few weeks ago we lost our post count! Email Dan or Mark they should be able to help. ------------ SG(2) |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 21, 2001 13:08
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Marko Polo,
It's ok with me, but I guess it is up to SG who started the thread/game. Just tell me who to pass the save file to. Anyone,
Speaking of feeling disconnected from a dying game. What happened to the AKC game? ------------------
Please use this email:
theidiots@yahoo.com or
skrobism@linuxfreemail.com
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
Scouse Gits
King
Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 21, 2001 14:08
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I think johnmcd is playing the AKC game.
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Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 21, 2001 15:41
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I think if we keep rigidly to the 72 hour rule we will overcome the disconnection problem - sometimes that will mean only playing one or two turns - maybe even a fractional turn - for my money stay with the eight players and pass to Hueij ...------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 22, 2001 10:28
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Speaking of 72 hours...
The past 2 nights have crazy with sick kids. No time at home, and get this, for some nutty reason the boss won't let me play at work. I am passing the game to Hueij untouched. I'll catch it the next time around.------------------
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 22, 2001 10:37
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Hey shouldn't I pass the save to Malignantx? I'll wait a little while before passing the save. If I don't here back I will send the game to
Malignantx, not Heuij.Let me know. ------------------
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
Scouse Gits
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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted March 22, 2001 10:42
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Sorry skrobism - one of these days I shall learn to read - Malignantx it is...------------------
Scouse Git[1] "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted March 22, 2001 12:02
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SG,
You should really work on that reading thing. Reading is SO important. Save sent to Malignantx. ------------------
"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys." |
Malignantx
Settler
Atlanta
May 2000
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posted March 22, 2001 15:38
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K guys im on it. |
Carolus Rex
King
Sweden
b.02-15-99
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posted March 23, 2001 02:28
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"Crush, crush, crush!!!" [Carolus Rex at ringside holding up a newspaper to protect his Armani suit from blood stains]Wait a minute?! The bloodlust part is later, right? Never mind... Carolus |
Marko Polo
Warlord
Finland, Lohja (60km NW to Helsinki)
Dec 2000
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posted March 23, 2001 07:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 03-23-2001 02:28 AM
"Crush, crush, crush!!!" [Carolus Rex at ringside holding up a newspaper to protect his Armani suit from blood stains]Wait a minute?! The bloodlust part is later, right? Never mind... Carolus
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LOL, can't wait to get there! Well actually, I couldn't wait.. I started playing 'ultimate OCC bloodlust challenge: large world with large land masses! I managed to build my ship in 1870 (15-1-1-1-1-1) and launched it 1916 with 36 years of flight time (IIRC). I'm now closing to 1930, have over 60 cities and only pathetic remains of other civs are left. I actually launched way too late my space ship, because it doesn't take more than max 10 turns to finish all the resistance. Then I'll switch back to demo (from fundy), start WLTxD's to max the score. My capital has produced nothing else than vet stealth fighters since I started 'bloodlust' part. Using them and paratroopers I have hopped from island to another conquering. I also have a massive army of howitsers & spies which I move with transports from continent to continent. I've built some airports to help repairing my fighters & (rush)buying new ones as well as airliftings units. I keep incrementally rushbuying new units all the time, first building barracks of course. Then I need engineers to clear pollution and building roads/railroads. I really love this conquest part, it's so fun!!! I can't wait to start my final offensive! 
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Malignantx
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Atlanta
May 2000
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posted March 23, 2001 18:22
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Sorry guys i cannot find my civII cd anywhere at all.. ive looked everywhere and i know i had it becuase i bought it long ago.. sorry and i have sent the game to Hueij so have fun. |
Smash
King
Vancouver Canada pacific time
Jul 1999
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posted March 23, 2001 19:49
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Is it getting tedious yet? |
Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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posted March 24, 2001 06:08
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Ha, nothing like a shot of Civ on a dull Saturday morning...975: Warrior.
950: Sioux destroyed by Japanese, French start Pyramids, our chariot goes out exploring.
925: Warrior.
900: Hut-Construction.
875: Library.
825: Americans start Pyramids.
725: Literacy.
700: French build Pyramids, Americans change to Hanging Gardens. Hut-Legion (supported).
625: Market Place, French discover Mysticism, peace with French for Writing and Literacy.
600: French start Marco Polo.
575: Japanese start Lighthouse.
550: Temple, disband warrior. Livius tells us we are the 5th most powerfull civ , the Fench are second... ----------------
Save sent to Julius and SG[1] |
Julius Brenzaida
Warlord
Switzerland
Aug 2000
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posted March 26, 2001 16:40
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Nothing to tell in the 1st years of my reign. We discover mathematics in 400bc. Now size 5. Our chariot continues to explore. 300 BC : we discover a none Chariot in a hut. 275 BC we discover mysticism from a hut. 125 BC we discover Astronomy from a hut. We meet the americans. Peace established. They don’t want to exchange techs ! A caravan starts going in their directions. Another one is BTW already moving eastward. 25 BC we’re revolted smoothly into a republic. Thanks Oedo ! We start celebrating. 50 gold from hut. 1 AD, we give republic to the French and the Americans. Trade for mapmaking with the latter. 40 AD now size 7. We stop the celebration. 3rd caravan build. We find french settler irrigating ! Consul Julius can’t refrain from playing 2 more turns to make the 1st trade connection. 80 AD philosophy from a hut. 100 AD Banking discovered. Trade route with Marseilles (70 gold, +4 trade). Time to pass the power to another brillant consul ! |
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