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mark13
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Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 14:30
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Hi, I'm a relative newbie to civ2 - a SMAC player above all - but what I would like to know is: When do you get two settlers to start with, and when do you only get one? In SMAC, you can be guaranteed two colony pods to start if you play the equivalent of Emperor and Deity - this is apparently not the case in civ2. I am hoping all you die-hards can shed some light on this....Thanks,
Mark13 P.S. Oh, and I'm using ToT, if that's any help. |
Legman
King
Copenhagen, Denmark
Mar 99
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posted December 01, 2000 14:42
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Haven't played ToT, I'm a 2.42 kinda guy.  The only help I can provide is this: On deity in 2.42 you always get 2 settlers to start with - no matter the settings you start out with.It's been a looong time since I played a different level so I'm not sure of those. But I believe you always get one settler and one only on Chieftain - King, and one or two out of random chance on Emperor. But others will have to confirm this more accurately. |
mark13
Prince
Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 14:46
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Strange - must differ between versions or something - I quite regularly play on Deity, and have, on many occasions, started out with one settler. In addition to that, I have played on King several times, and started out with two.  BTW, what is 2.42? I have the original Civ2 disk, not patched or anything - is there any way I can get the patch, if, indeed, it is a patch? |
Andz83
King
Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany, Europe
Mar 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 14:55
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are you sure, Legman? always 2 settlers on deity? yes, 2.42 is a patch, available at Apolyton AFAIK but it's better to go and purchase Fan´tastic Worlds, the 2.78 version  |
kcbob
Prince
Kansas City, MO USA
Dec 1999
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posted December 01, 2000 14:58
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I get two settlers on deity every time. But I play raging hordes. I suppose it could be a function of that. Or perhaps the number of civs in the game.------------------
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skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 15:03
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The 2.42 download can be found here.
#> I have been told that is the standard for comparing CIV2 games, strategies, etc. It is small and easy enough to upgrade. I might be wrong on this next part but you can even play the games that you saved before the upgrade without problems. I at least I haven't noticed any. |
mark13
Prince
Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 15:16
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Thanks for the link, I am downloading the patch as I type....kcbob,
I usually play 7 civs, raging hordes, large map, deity. Yet, sometimes, I only get one settler. It is annoying, to say the least....I think it must be something to do with ToT. I'll have to have a look at the rules.txt, see if that has anything to do with it.... Mark13 |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 15:19
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WAIT!!!!!That is not - I repeat - NOT a TOT patch. Stop!!!!! ------------------
'I want to be hand counted and checked for dimples.' |
mark13
Prince
Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 15:25
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I have the original Civ2 disk, not patched or anything - is there any way I can get the patch, if, indeed, it is a patch?
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Thanks anyway for pointing that out, although I was aware of it. I have ToT 1.1, which, I believe, is the only patch Microprose ever bothered to bring out.... *sigh* |
kcbob
Prince
Kansas City, MO USA
Dec 1999
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posted December 01, 2000 15:33
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Originally posted by mark13 on 12-01-2000 03:16 PM
kcbob,
I usually play 7 civs, raging hordes, large map, deity. Yet, sometimes, I only get one settler. It is annoying, to say the least....
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You're kidding???!!!  I'll have to pay more attention. ------------------
Frodo lives! |
mark13
Prince
Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 15:37
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Actually, just had a few trial runs with 2.42, and, lo and behold - two settlers!! Must be something (else? ) wrong with ToT.... |
Stefan Härtel
King
Hemhofen, Germanistan
Jul 1999
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posted December 01, 2000 16:27
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I always start with 2 settlers. I know some people think it has to do with the civs.
I'm an experienced scenario designer, and I often notice that one or more AI civs start with only one settler. Now, I always play with the Persians, who always have two settlers-or do they? Some settings indeed let you start with only one settler. I believe there is some sort of regularity beyond this phenomenon. I guess it just needs to be explored a little.------------------
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tonic
King
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Jun 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 16:52
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I'm a newish scenario maker and already I have noticed the same phenomenon. Your chosen civ starts with the two settlers but often the other six AI civs start with only one. It seems to be independent of which civ you choose to play. |
DrFell
Chieftain
England
Sep 2000
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posted December 01, 2000 21:34
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from my experience, you tend to start with two settlers on levels lower than deity, when the surrounding terrain is poor. you always start with two on deity of course. also, i think the closer you start to another civ, the more techs you get to start off with.. try a large world map playing as english with the celts starting off right next to you, and youll see what i mean. yep, the ai also often seems to only start with 1 settler.
[This message has been edited by DrFell (edited December 01, 2000).] |
DaveP
Settler
Aug 2000
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posted December 02, 2000 13:17
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There is a patch for ToT also, if you're using the unpatched version that might be the cause. I get two settlers every time at Deity/7civs on ToT, regardless of the variation (might not apply to Midgaard, which I've only started a couple times, but it's a scenario and would be controlled by the scenario file). If you haven't got the patch yet, it can be found at the Hasbro site (I think it's on Apolyton also).Dave |
mark13
Prince
Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 02, 2000 15:35
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Yeah, I've got v1.1 - very strange that I only start with one....I had a fiddle around in the rules.txt - nothing.  Actually, a re-install mightn't be a bad idea, I'll see if that helps.... Mark13 |
Scouse Gits
King
Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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posted December 04, 2000 06:27
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My three ha'p'orth - I always get two settlers at Deity/Raging in 2.42 & MP - yes sometimes the AI doesn't get two - (do I care?)
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mark13
Prince
Northampton, England
Sep 2000
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posted December 04, 2000 10:51
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I did re-install, and all of a sudden I've started getting two....very strange, but there we have it. The game file must have been corrupted in some way or something....oh well, c'est la vie.... |
skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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posted December 04, 2000 17:29
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Thanks anyway for pointing that out, although I was aware of it.
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I have the original Civ2 disk, not patched or anything - is there any way I can get the patch, if, indeed, it is a patch?
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Oh that's right. That's why you wanted the patch. I just panicked when I thought that you might mess up your install based on my advice.
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[This message has been edited by skrobism (edited December 04, 2000).]
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