quote: Originally posted by Smash on 11-21-2000 08:00 PM I hope I cc'd it to you if Muad'Dib is listed as MIA.I kept in the trash(along with several other vital things) and along the line of "can someone loan me a gun?" my girlfriend decided to empty it.First thing she has done on this particular comp in months

To quote Meg Ryan in When Harry Met Sally, "Yes! Yes! Yes!" I have it!

I think I emailed Maud'Dib but I haven't heard back from him. I'll send another one in a minute and be back to post with a suggested plan of attack.

BTW. Condolences on the untimely demise of your trash bin (and girlfriend).

I've emailed and PMd Maud'Dib. If I don't hear from him by noon tomorrow, November 23, I'll pick up the game from Smash and then pass it on to Julius. When Maud'Dib does finally resurface, we'll plug him in as soon as we can. Agreed?

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 11-22-2000 10:31 AM Okay, here's the deal. I've emailed and PMd Maud'Dib. If I don't hear from him by noon tomorrow, November 23, I'll pick up the game from Smash and then pass it on to Julius. When Maud'Dib does finally resurface, we'll plug him in as soon as we can. Agreed?

Agreed !
The french pretend that "la patience est la mère des vertues", but who could believe the french !
It is time to play on !

Please, in the future, NO MORE ZIP FILES, they're a BIG pain in the ass for me to open or to extract. Just attach the save file as it appears in your directory to your e-mail.

Of course, you're right. Work does come first. I think we all would have been a little less concerned if we had an update from you. Truly, I was a little worried that everything was okay.

Anyway, since you have popped back up, no problem. To quote one of my favorite singing groups, "Carry On, My Wayward Son".

Any estimated time of completion?

BTW, the group was, naturally, Kansas.

Hey, Maud'Dib, glad to hear the job's going well.

I went back over this thread and I can't see where you've been skipped. Do you have Smash's file? If so, just crank that baby up. There've only been two turns so far in the first round. (Does this terminology make sense?)

Soooo, have at it. Unless you no longer have the file. Let us know tout'de suite! (Is my spelling correct on that one, Julius?)

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 11-24-2000 11:40 AM Let us know tout'de suite! (Is my spelling correct on that one, Julius?)

Presque Kcbob ! It’s “tout de suite”

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 11-24-2000 11:40 AM This is a duplicate (sort of) of my last post in the Gigamap thread.

For me too. Nice idea Kcbob. Do you think Scouse Gits has something to say against it ?

quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 11-25-2000 05:20 AM For me too. Nice idea Kcbob. Do you think Scouse Gits has something to say against it ?

I don't think he's got anything to say against it. I think what I might do is give a few more hours today and if we don't hear from Maud'Dib by early this evening, I'll go forward with the Gigamap game. I'll leave this one for Dib. That way, we'll all have something in the works.

And as you saw in the Gigamap thread, my "tout de suite" is pushing the envelope regarding my French.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 11-25-2000 11:48 AM I don't think he's got anything to say against it. And as you saw in the Gigamap thread, my "tout de suite" is pushing the envelope regarding my French.

Kcbob, I was not talking about your excellent handling of the situation, but I was thinking of my double post which was “scorned” by Scouse Gits. Looks you’ve found another clever way.
I like your use of french and of american expressions. But what does “pushing the envelope “ means ?

quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 11-25-2000 04:12 PM Kcbob, I was not talking about your excellent handling of the situation, but I was thinking of my double post which was “scorned” by Scouse Gits. Looks you’ve found another clever way. I like your use of french and of american expressions. But what does “pushing the envelope “ means ?

Well, I certainly hope my use of "pushing the envelope" wasn't a case of mixed metaphors. I'm not sure of the origin. The intent is to show that I'm at the extreme edge of my expertise, such as it may be.

I'm going to check the Gigamap thread now. If Maud'Dib hasn't responded, I'll proceed with that game and leave this one for him for the next few days.

Maybe he OD'd on turkey.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 11-25-2000 07:58 PM Well, I certainly hope my use of "pushing the envelope" wasn't a case of mixed metaphors. I'm not sure of the origin. The intent is to show that I'm at the extreme edge of my expertise, such as it may be. I'm going to check the Gigamap thread now. If Maud'Dib hasn't responded, I'll proceed with that game and leave this one for him for the next few days. Maybe he OD'd on turkey.

The exteme edge of your expertise ! how would someone translate that in french ?
“Les limites de mes possibilités”, je ne vois pas de métaphore correspondante !
I repost here what I said in the gigamap sg (sucession game that is). Let us all go ahead ! Those who cannot follow shall rejoin later. 15 to 20 turns, it is not “la mer à boire” !
No offense intended, as the matter is of almost no importance, but I don’t think Maud’Dib (is it from Dune, I don’t remember ?) acted in the most correct way. If he has no time to play, nobody’s going to blame him, but he should tell us that he is too busy and tell us when he can resume playing. Then, we decide if he skips one turn or not. Time is not always revelant but I wish I could finish those two sucession games before I die.

quote: Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 11-26-2000 02:43 PM The exteme edge of your expertise ! how would someone translate that in french ? “Les limites de mes possibilités”, je ne vois pas de métaphore correspondante ! I repost here what I said in the gigamap sg (sucession game that is). Let us all go ahead ! Those who cannot follow shall rejoin later. 15 to 20 turns, it is not “la mer à boire” ! No offense intended, as the matter is of almost no importance, but I don’t think Maud’Dib (is it from Dune, I don’t remember ?) acted in the most correct way. If he has no time to play, nobody’s going to blame him, but he should tell us that he is too busy and tell us when he can resume playing. Then, we decide if he skips one turn or not. Time is not always revelant but I wish I could finish those two sucession games before I die.

Never fear. The gigamap game is moving forward again. I'm trying to put myself in Maud'Dib's shoes. I can understand his slowness in playing if he has a wife like I do. I have to fight tooth and nail to get playing time. Not that she's trying to get on the computer. Au contraire. She's trying to keep me off.

As for "pushing the envelope", the explanation was not meant to be a literal translation. I asked a guy who sits beside me at work if he'd heard of it and the origin and here is his explanation.

Years ago, aerospace engineers would sometimes do their calculations anywhere they could find writing space, e.g., on the backs of envelopes. When the limits of the capabilities of the hardware they were designing had been reached and consequently exceeded, they called it "pushing the envelope".

Any buyers?

And yes, Maud'Dib is from Dune.

Come on, Dibber, speak to me!!!

The people considered many things and after much thought and prayer, our fishermen in the City of Only Three were asked to work in the wheat fields, our fishermen in Sherwood asked to tend to the silk worms. All this was done to improve production, and the people were glad. Our intrepid navy, the trireme Titanic, set sail from West Point, located in the eastern portion of the empire. (Go figure)
Horsemen, exploring the unknown, came upon a hut beckoning to them to enter. While pondering the wisdom of this, the Titanic espied from afar another hut, sadly just out of reach.

A mighty warrior was trained in Sherwood and the silk farmers nee fishermen were moved to the pheasant country to the north to become game wardens. Our archer, Robin of Lox Lee, was ordered back to Port au Prince and, while on the way, uncovered new whaling grounds near to shore.

And then, glory of glories, a Code of Laws was finally agreed upon by our people. Having achieved this monumentous decision, it was decided to begin looking into the possibility of choosing one ruler, a king, a Monarch, to rule over us. At the same time, our patient horsemen to the north threw back the curtain over the door of the hut by which he had been camped and, lo, 50 gold shekels lay at his feet!

Further exploring uncovered new lands to be inhabited at some time in our glorious future. Robin of Lox Lee boarded the Titanic and set sail for the distant shore upon which the newly discovered hut lay waiting.
Upon arriving there, Robin bravely peered into the hut and to his surprise, a wandering nomad stood and begged asylum. Given approval, he immediately founded Distant Shore in the midst of two whaling grounds.

With glad hearts the people of Distant Shore bid Robin of Lox Lee farewell. He boarded the Titanic, set sail, and… voila!!! Yet another thatched roof structure. With a great sense of foreboding, Robin bravely set foot off of the Titanic, into the mysterious hut, and… voila un autre fois!!! Monarchy!!!!! The gods be praised!!! May the name of Robin of Lox Lee be remembered forever in the annals of our glorious empire!!!

And then, just as the kingdom approved its new form of government, just as the kingdom was ready to name its new monarch… tragedy struck. Some say it was Robin of Lox Lee, jealous of kcbob's soon to be obtained title, who performed the dastardly deed. To this day, no one knows. All that is known is that kcbob disappeared, his whereabouts to this day a mystery. In his absence, in his memory, the kingdom moved forward naming its first king. The king is dead! Long live the King. May he live forever! And his name shall be called…

Actually, writing the "history" is half the fun.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 11-27-2000 07:48 AMAs for "pushing the envelope", the explanation was not meant to be a literal translation. I asked a guy who sits beside me at work if he'd heard of it and the origin and here is his explanation. Years ago, aerospace engineers would sometimes do their calculations anywhere they could find writing space, e.g., on the backs of envelopes. When the limits of the capabilities of the hardware they were designing had been reached and consequently exceeded, they called it "pushing the envelope". And yes, Maud'Dib is from Dune.

Well, it’s almost frightening all that I am learning on this site !

At this point, I would suggest that if Scouse Gits haven't played the next turn, they or Julius could forward the game to you. If they have played (or started), how about if you jump in after them?

Is this agreeable with everyone?

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quote: Originally posted by Muad'Dib on 12-01-2000 04:54 AM No problemo. Just send the file when it's my turn.

Muad'Dib, glad to see you're finally back
When I get home (about 6pm), I'll send you my saved game. It is called kcbob_750bc or something like that for those who are afraid to mix it up.
You don't want no zip, is that right ?

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 12-01-2000 06:38 AM I have not yet opened the file I got from Julius - assuming that I have not our games confused (like many of you I/we are playing in, is it 5?, several succession games and confusion can occur)

I have not our games confused???
I/we are playing???

SG, I think you (and you) were born confused.

Scouse Gits
Smash
kcbob
Julius
Maud'Dib

Does this look right?

DUNE HAS ARRIVED!!!

quote: Originally posted by Muad'Dib on 12-03-2000 12:04 PM Turn complete. Who's next???

I think it's Scouse Gits.
How is the kingdom going ?

Oh, well.

BTW. How did you feel the first segment of Dune went? I taped it and am going to tape the next two before watching it in its entirety.

0525BC - revamped a few workers to turn 10 turns to 9, switched Phalanx production to Settler and scrapped two proposed Libraries in favour of Caravans.
0475BC - West Point builds marginally effective Library - now moves to needed Temple; Only Three builds Temple - now starts Caravan; Techs now at 8
0450BC - Perfection City builds Library - switch to Caravan; Tech rate now 7
0425BC - 2 Barb Horse + King by Distant Shore - recruiting office now open
0400BC - The accursed Americans have nearly completed the Gardens - scratch Plan A ; West Point builds Temple - switch to Caravan; Recruiting Office buys 1 Horse, Horse kills Barb Horse - now vet, Trireme kills King 150g
0375BC - Americans build Gardens ; Pottery discovered - The Republic being researched @ 8
0300BC - The Russians have nearly completed the Lighthouse - but 3 Caravans, 2 Settlers and a Horse = 200 shields - We have won! (Let us hope they don't now get Marco ...); Buffalo Girls founded
0275BC - Our Light Shines over the Oceans! The benighted Russians switch to the Oracle - Marco's shall be ours!
0200BC - The Germans have nearly completed the Library - Hoorah!
0175BC - Germans have Library - Babs switch to Pyramids; Perfection City builds Temple; The Republic discovered, now seeking Seafaring; hut supported Horse
0150BC - Babylon builds Pyramids and starts Great Wall; Port au Prince builds Temple and starts Trireme; Perfection City builds Marco Polo's Embassy!

• Carthaginians, Peace & MAPS
• Germans, Peace
• Babylonians, Alliance & MAPS
• Russians, Peace & MAPS
• Americans, Peace & MAPS
• Indians, Peace & MAPS

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