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skrobism
Warlord
MKE,WI,USA
Oct 2000
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I don't know what happened. It seems like both v2.42 succession games have come to a grinding halt. From what I can tell, I passed the save to HsFB on 11/14. HsFB downloaded it on 11/17 and said that he'd pass it by the 20th. Today is 8 days since my pass.

I can tell you that I left HsFB with 2 cities and 3 troops to move for 10 turns.

I am not sure what happened. Who is keeping the history for this game? Johnmcd, is that you? Do we continue with Hueij? Do you need me to pass the game again? I'd like this succession to continue.

HsFB
Prince
Phobos, Martian System
Jan 2000
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Sorry, i am involved in another succession game at another site, and had to play my turn the same time as this one.

The time periods coincede, and i got confused and played 15 instead of 10 turns. I'll mail it this night.

skrobism
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Oct 2000
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I think we can live with the 15 turn mistake.
Hueij
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May 99
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Can't we make some time-rule or something? Like, when you can't make it in let's say three days you have to pass it on to the next? It's over ten days now without anything happening...
skrobism
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I don't have a problem with that. This very issue came up during another succession game. People started passing the save on when they knew they couldn't play within a reasonable time period. I think the move to 10 moves from 20 moves was also an attempt to speed things up.

How would we enforce this? Maybe the person that starts the game and keeps it's history, monitors the thread and determines when a save must be passed to the next person.

The same thing has happened on the AKC succession. I don't want to be the hard ass, but I think 3 days is plenty of time.

Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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Well, forget it. Another day gone by... Johnmcd, you can scratch my name from the list and send the save-file to the next one (if you ever get it). Maybe next time I can get in a game where people actually do what they promise...

Good luck with the game...

skrobism
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maybe e-mail takes awhile to travel from mars.
skrobism
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Well now we have people quitting. I passed my save on the 14th. it's been almost 2 weeks. I just passed the save on to maud dib.
Hueij
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May 99
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quote:

Originally posted by skrobism on 11-26-2000 02:17 PM
Well now we have people quitting. I passed my save on the 14th. it's been almost 2 weeks. I just passed the save on to maud dib.

Argh... Why didn't I think of that That'll teach me not to post when I'm pissed... Can you cut me in again next round?
skrobism
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I know it's only been a day here, but another succession game (mge n-ics sg) is getting ready to declare Maud Dib missing in action. He has not posted there since the 23rd or here since the 10th.

Do I wait 2 more days or pass the game to Hueij today, who seems to regret quitting? Johnmcd, what do you say?

skrobism
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Since nobody seems to care, I'll wait.
Day 2.
HsFB
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Jan 2000
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ok, sorry, my e-mail server has gone kaboom, when i try and submit my user info, i only get errors.
skrobism
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Oct 2000
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Ok. See, a little feed back helps me understand what is going on. Do you have a site that you could post the file to? Could you try a new, free email service? address.com, yahoo.com, altavista.com, etc. all have free email services.

There is always a work around.

johnmcd
Clash of Civilizations
Unit Graphics

Edinburgh
Oct 1999
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Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude by ignoring you, I normally post at work but have been too busy of late. I am at home just now.

I say we scratch him, pass the save on to Hueij.

If you would like to send me a copy at johnmcdiarmid@newscientist.net I'd appreciate it, I haven't seen a save since my first turn.

skrobism
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No I'm sorry. I am just frustrated that this succession idea seems to be dying because we can't find a way to to take less than a week per round. It seems to be an issue on most of the succession threads. >

I'll send a copy to you and Hueij by tonight. Hopefully Hueij still wants to play. If not I guess we take it to the top of the list again.

skrobism
Warlord
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I sent the save to Hueij and a copy to johnmcd.

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'I want to be hand counted and checked for dimples.'

Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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Just got it, thanks Skrobism. It has to wait till this evening, I'm off to work in 15 minutes

Do I send my results to Muad when I'm done (by Friday at the latest)?

skrobism
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Oct 2000
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I think we need an updated list of players. It looks like Muad Dib is MIA. Unless he claims otherwise. I'd pass the save onto Johnmcd when you are done.
Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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Okay, I'll pass it on to John Friday-evening (Haven't looked at it yet but have time Friday to play. At last... )
Muad'Dib
Prince
Of The Known Universe
b.02-15-99
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I have the file and I'm playing it now as I speak. I have a rear day off today. Can't wait for the holidays to be over so I can go back to my normal work schedule.

3 days until DUNE!!!

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"And his word shall carry
death eternal to those who
stand against righteousness."

Muad'Dib
Prince
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Turn completed.
To whom do I send it???

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"And his word shall carry
death eternal to those who
stand against righteousness."

Muad'Dib
Prince
Of The Known Universe
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File sent to John.

Results of my turn:

No cities founded.

From Huts: NONE attached settler, Chariot attached to Edward I, Horseback Riding and Map Making.

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"And his word shall carry
death eternal to those who
stand against righteousness."

Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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Err... I'm a little confused here... Who is doing what?
skrobism
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Oct 2000
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re: who is doing what?

Your guess is as good as mine.

I think we all assumed that MD was MIA. At least I did. Sorry MD - I think. Anyway, I think it would be nice if MDs save was passed to Hueij, who'd pass it to Johnmcd. Hueij you said that you were planning on playing this friday. If Johnmcd or MD can get that save to you today you should be able to play without too much of a problem.

Am I wrong on this? Is this too much of a mess and we start over? Are we all from Florida or what?

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'I want to be hand counted and checked for dimples.'

kcbob
King
Kansas City, MO USA
Dec 1999
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I think skrobism's suggestion sounds reasonable for you all. That from a non-partisan point of view.

BTW. Heard of a bumper sticker yesterday.

Florida - If you don't like the way we count, move to one of the other 53 states!

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Frodo lives!

Muad'Dib
Prince
Of The Known Universe
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I opened my e-mail early this morning and found the saved file sent by Skrob--it was dated Sunday.

Because of work I finally had the chance to get to my e-mail; hence the previous posts.

Since I did not now who was next, I just sent the file back to John who started the game.

After reading the above posts, I sent Hueji the game.

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"And his word shall carry
death eternal to those who
stand against righteousness."

Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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Thanks all, got my Civ-folder filled with sav-files

I'll send my results to John later today so he can pass it on because I lost track of who else to send it to

Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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Just sent my save to John...

Opened two huts, Masonry and an Archer, Edinburgh started on the Colossus and founded a new city with the typical Celtic name of Hueijville

An Edinburgh warrior is next to an unopened hut but is needed for martial law in Edinburgh, so, if it was still my turn I would open it with the Archer who is nearby

Oh yeah, almost forgot, Barbs have landed near EdwardI...

kcbob
King
Kansas City, MO USA
Dec 1999
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quote:

Originally posted by Hueij on 12-01-2000 07:57 AMfounded a new city with the typical Celtic name of Hueijville

LOL!

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Frodo lives!

johnmcd
Clash of Civilizations
Unit Graphics

Edinburgh
Oct 1999
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Hueijj

This thing is a cooperative, if you can't work it out what makes you think I can? scroll up the page or look at the previous one if need be(a chore I know) but forward it to the appropriate person please!

Hueij
King
Arnhem, The Netherlands
May 99
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quote:

Originally posted by johnmcd on 12-01-2000 08:50 AM
Hueijj

This thing is a cooperative, if you can't work it out what makes you think I can? scroll up the page or look at the previous one if need be(a chore I know) but forward it to the appropriate person please!


Hey, no need to get pissed... Since you started the game and mentioned somewhere above that you only received one game I thought it appropriate to send it to you. If you don't want it just throw it away...

About this thing being a cooperative, yeah, I noticed that. Only thing is my definition of it differs from yours I think... And maybe I'm stupid but after scrolling up and down, left and right, and diagonally I still have no clue to who to send it to. Maybe I also should have waited ten days...

johnmcd
Clash of Civilizations
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Edinburgh
Oct 1999
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I am pissed that people can't be bothered to either play the game in a reasonable time frame or can't bring themselves to spend five minutes to work out whose turn it is next, which is all it took me.

Accordingly I will take my turn this evening and there is no need for you to forward it to anyone else. For everyone's benefit this is the current order:

Johnmcd
ScouseGits
Skrobism
Muad’Dib
Hueij

kcbob
King
Kansas City, MO USA
Dec 1999
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I was just thinking about doing this in a couple of other games' threads. I'm sure it helps.

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Frodo lives!

skrobism
Warlord
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Oct 2000
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quote:

I was just thinking about doing this in a couple of other games' threads. I'm sure it helps.

Do you mean 'getting pissed' or reposting the order?

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'I want to be hand counted and checked for dimples.'

kcbob
King
Kansas City, MO USA
Dec 1999
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quote:

Originally posted by skrobism on 12-01-2000 12:23 PM
Do you mean 'getting pissed' or reposting the order?

LOL!

I guess that wasn't intuitively obvious to the most casual observer with the brains that God gave a post, huh?

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Frodo lives!

skrobism
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Oct 2000
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* the post in question replies *

ahhhh
Huh?

* blinks and scratches self stupidly *

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'I want to be hand counted and checked for dimples.'

johnmcd
Clash of Civilizations
Unit Graphics

Edinburgh
Oct 1999
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Sent the file on, Full details of events, victories and discoveries on Monday.
Scouse Gits
King
Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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The Scouse Gits in Concert
our efforts for the cause...

0925BC - rushed Temple & Settler, switched Phalanges to Warriors, increased Tech-rate from 22 to 16
0900BC - Germans get Philo & start Pyramids;
0850BC - We are 6th Advanced!!! Horseman releases 5 Barbs!
0825BC - 2 whale + wheat site located to NW
0800BC - RIFKIND founded; hut 50g; Tech rate 12
0775BC - 2 Horse disband into Colossus - hut: 100g; Spanish trireme sighted
0750BC - Spanish trireme makes veteran Warrior;
0725BC - hut: 50g; Horse disbands for Colossus
0700BC - Monarchy - research Writing for Republic;
0650BC - another Horse to Colossus
0625BC - MONARCHY established (don't ask ); Tech rate 9; 2 Horses to Colossus
0600BC - Horse completes Colossus!
0575BC - COLOSSUS; Tech rate 8
0500BC - Second unit fortified in Edinburgh, Temple put in as marker for Library, Writing (and Diplo - the poor man's Caravan hint - hint! in two turns)
____________________
The Scouse Gits in Red Wine

skrobism
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Oct 2000
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I got the save. I will probably play it tonight.


Re the diplo being the poor man's caravan: How do you mean that? Can the Diplo be used to increase trade somehow?


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'I want to be hand counted and checked for dimples.'
[This message has been edited by skrobism (edited December 04, 2000).]

Scouse Gits
King
Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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Skrobism - Trade has not yet been discovered - so NO caravans to assist in building wonders! One way around this problem is to use diplos and disband them in the city building the wonder.

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