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Author Topic:   Just a curious question            Current Date/Time: April 11, 2000 03:26:22
Jim W
Chieftain
From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Registered: Sep 1999
posted March 11, 2000 00:19   Click Here to See the Profile for Jim WClick Here to Email Jim W Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


When you're saving your game, what sort of ordering system does the computer use? Not numerical, it would seem. When I've saved the game a number of times, I occasionally have a bit of difficulty finding the one I left off at.

Fortunately, since I use the computer that's hooked to the printer, my wife will occasionally kick me off so she can print something. I therefore have gotten into the habit of saving the game twice, once to the hard drive and once to a floppy, which I can then move around.

This also allows me to look at the diskette, putting the files in order by date, so I can then see which one was the last.

Of course, this is only a problem after I've saved ten or fifteen times.

Still, I'm curious. Can anybody explain, simply, what order the machine uses?

Jim W

Thunderfall
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From: Civilization Fanatics' Center
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posted March 11, 2000 03:05   Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderfallClick Here to Email ThunderfallVisit Thunderfall's Homepage! Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


when I save a game in civ2, i always number the save games. (such as "viking1.sav". "viking2.sav"). I also has one save named "lastsav.save". before I close civ2, I always save the latest game as "lastsav.sav". I can just open that file immediatrely next time. There is no need to open other files...

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AkwaticDudeCity
Chieftain
From: ZoomCity
Registered: Mar 2000
posted March 11, 2000 07:28   Click Here to See the Profile for AkwaticDudeCityClick Here to Email AkwaticDudeCity Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


From what i've seen, i gathered the computer saves in a purely chronological order. The most recent date in the game gets to be on top. Don't be misled by the early dates in the game, they're BC, hence the b in the default .sav file.

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ugh crud, why won't they fall prey to my Machiavellian schemes?

Kungfumouse
Settler
From: Ypsilanti, Michigan, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
posted March 11, 2000 08:13   Click Here to See the Profile for KungfumouseClick Here to Email Kungfumouse Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Try using a "aaa" prefix before the name you want to save under.

Example (aaaviking.sav)

This will put it right at the top..easy to access.

Hope this helps....

Jim W
Chieftain
From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Registered: Sep 1999
posted March 11, 2000 12:03   Click Here to See the Profile for Jim WClick Here to Email Jim W Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


It's not purely chronological. In a long series, you get three or so in order, than suddenly three or so breaking into that order. then going back outside again, and so on.

As for adding anything special, well, _every_ save is potentially the last one, which means that by the end of a day I could end up with a file headed aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaviking.

The thing is, I have a system to deal with this, listing the files on my floppy in order of date.

I'm just curious as to why the game saves things in a wierd order.

Jim W

myrlyn
ACS Civ2 DB Helper
From: glasford,il usa
Registered: Jan 2000
posted March 11, 2000 15:08   Click Here to See the Profile for myrlynClick Here to Email myrlyn Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Well if you are using win 95/98 go to your explorer and go to views and click on the date nodified tab. It will show the date and time the file was created or last modified. only way i can keep track of which game i was playing last

Hope that helps

War4ever
King
From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada PST
Registered: Oct 1999
posted March 11, 2000 15:16   Click Here to See the Profile for War4everClick Here to Email War4ever Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


if its MP i just put the names of the other civers in as well
Tom DeMille
Warlord
From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jan 2000
posted March 11, 2000 15:25   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom DeMilleClick Here to Email Tom DeMille Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Jim W, the saved game list is alphabetical. If you examine the following list

ab_a1400.sav
ab_a160.sav
ab_a1800.sav
ab_b1000.sav
ab_b400.sav

you will see the chronologic order all jumbled, but it is alphabetically in the correct order. To avoid this problem, you could add 0 into the name, which would make ab_a0160.sav come before ab_a1800.sav. Of course, all AD dates will still be listed before BC dates.
[This message has been edited by Tom DeMille (edited March 11, 2000).]

tolstoy
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From: Cupertino, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
posted March 17, 2000 18:16   Click Here to See the Profile for tolstoyClick Here to Email tolstoy Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Then I save games I always create a new folder in my save game dir. So if I'm playing as the germanys for the 5th time I save the games into save/german5 and then based upon the year for the file. If I start a new game with the germans I make another save folder for those save files. It's very easy to manage all your save games this way.
The Mad Monk
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From: Belleville, NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2000
posted March 23, 2000 01:39   Click Here to See the Profile for The Mad MonkClick Here to Email The Mad Monk Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


I would always save games every couple of turns, or every turn once things got complicated. I adopted the idea adding 0's to the shorter dates early on, but at the end of the day I still ended up with possibly hundreds of .SAV files. I realized two things: I wasn't going reload all of these saves, ever, and it was getting to be a royal pain in the neck finding the right one, especially when being choosy about 'goody hut' results.
I hit upon a simple solution: "0.sav". Use this as your standard .SAV file, and it will always float to the top of the queue. I use this to save before goody huts, complex manuveres, etc., and just before hitting the TURN key. I only use the games' default format every twenty turns or so; it really simplifies matters, and keeps .SAV files from glutting your drives.
Oh yeah, if you're *really* picky about goody hut results, it pays to use '00.sav' as insurance against the times you accidently SAVE instead of LOAD 0.sav after unleashing a barbarian horde. (Ouch.)
War4ever
King
From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada PST
Registered: Oct 1999
posted March 23, 2000 01:46   Click Here to See the Profile for War4everClick Here to Email War4ever Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Mad Monk i have done what you said and i agree its frustrating.... but serves me right for reloading lol
Black Bart
Warlord
From: Western, U.S.
Registered: Feb 2000
posted March 23, 2000 01:52   Click Here to See the Profile for Black BartClick Here to Email Black Bart Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


alphabetical. I usually use A1 for my save when I'm in the middle of a game, I plan on finishing later. Just before the last turn before my spaceship lands, I save again using my civ name and score. I like to preserve evidence of my great victories . Well not great compared to some of you guys. Usually Chin3700.sav or Apac4200.sav, etc.
Steve Clark
Warlord
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: Oct 1999
posted March 23, 2000 11:09   Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Clark  Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Just the year. Upon reload, I switch the load dialog box to Details View and then click Modified. That will always bring the last saved file to the top (whether it's one I did or an autosav).
tobyr
Warlord
From: Princeton, NJ USA
Registered: Oct 1999
posted March 23, 2000 11:39   Click Here to See the Profile for tobyrClick Here to Email tobyr Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Once you are in A.D. (second age) years, the save files are alphabetical by time. Before that they are quite confusingly not.

I always run test of time from the command line, in a batch file that also displays the save files in save time order:

cd "C:\Program Files\Microprose\Test of Time"
cd original
civ2
dir /o:d

The last listed file (from the dir command) is the one I want to reload.

- toby

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SlowHand
Warlord
From: Dallas, Texas Central U.S. time -6
Registered: Jan 2000
posted March 24, 2000 07:04   Click Here to See the Profile for SlowHand  Edit/Delete Message Reply To & Quote Message IP: Logged, Admin Access Only


Can't save as 24Mar00 ? Or is that too easy? You're wanting to use the default save?
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